bunglebus Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, pbottomley said: Passat B5 1.9 TDI always in the 50's driven gently 60mpg easy Yep average about 55-56 overall. Depends what age car you're looking at. I really don't know how I'd replace it, goes really well, comfortable and reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Don’t Passats suffer from leaks and dodgy heater matrix? I’m sure I remember them being a bit flaky in terms of reliability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazoli Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, garethj said: Don’t Passats suffer from leaks and dodgy heater matrix? I’m sure I remember them being a bit flaky in terms of reliability Yup, and pretty much every other VAG malady, I couldn't recommend one myself, the most sensible one you mentioned is the Yaris D4D, they will do well in excess of 65mpg easily. Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporty-shite Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, 320touring said: £550 for the car 200 on decent bilstein dampers 170 on good springs (eibach/h&r) 100 refresh of front arms £99 on a remap Some decent tyres Cambelt and servicing Done 18 minutes ago, Jazoli said: They are as dull as ditchwater, I had one, it was remapped, the creaking interior plastics and dead handling pissed me off eventually, they are also a significant downgrade from a 2.2 civic. Both valid points to be fair! It's a bit dull, but could be made better. Tobe honest, though, you'd probably be pushed to get a constant 55mpg unless you drive like Miss Daisy, which sort of defeats the brief somewhat. Jazoli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jazoli said: They are as dull as ditchwater, I had one, it was remapped, the creaking interior plastics and dead handling pissed me off eventually, they are also a significant downgrade from a 2.2 civic. 42-44mpg out of the civic is pretty poor, maybe have a look at your driving style? my friend gets almost 60mpg from his. Back to the 205 1.8d then:) loserone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New POD Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Who cares about mpg? It's about the style you travel in. Try 28 mpg. If lucky and careful. I've done 60k since October 2016. And rarely see 30 mpg. On the other hand negative depreciation. sierraman, Stevebrookman and Matty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Can't argue with New POD. 3.0 outback here, albeit lpg. But hits the dizzy heights of 24 mpg on lpg. 28 on petrol. But depreciated zero in 2. 5 years as bought cheap and no dpf, dual mass flywheel, cambelt, flaky injector, worn out turbos.... Mpg the least of your overall cost worries.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Current car is a Honda Civic and my spreadsheet of costs is fuel and a headlight bulb. Depreciation also zero as it is for most old cars to be honest. I’m not a complete stranger to running old cars and I’ve had everything from a 10mpg XJ-S (pre HE) to a 60mpg Skoda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Xantia XUDT obvs. You could probably buy a couple within a tight budget and keep one as a spare incase one starts leaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holbeck Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Citroen hdi. My Xantia has done 52mpg over 3000 miles, my commute is A road and urban. Motorway miles would push this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00dy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Megane-2-0dCi-175-Renaultsport-new-mot-full-service-history/164324644788 Agila and bigfella2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agila Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, w00dy said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Megane-2-0dCi-175-Renaultsport-new-mot-full-service-history/164324644788 Don't know about reliability on these but that looks ace. I didn't even know they did a diesel version of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Estate Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr_Bo11ox said: What about a Volvo C30 'drive-E' with the fancy smooth alloys, theyre supposedly pretty thrifty and look interesting, not sure how much driver joy is available mind you. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-59-VOLVO-C30-S-DRIVE-D-1-6-DIESEL-3-DOOR-HATCHBACK-20-TAX-64-MPG-RED-CLOTH/174386736908 I was about to suggest one of these, although its a bit more expensive. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008062188875?transmission=Manual&sort=price-asc&annual-tax-cars=TO_30&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&advertising-location=at_cars&make=VOLVO&model=V40&fuel-consumption=OVER_60&maximum-mileage=125000&radius=1500&postcode=so157np&fuel-type=Diesel&page=1 Tax Annual tax £0 CO₂ emissions 94g/km Fuel Urban 70.6 mpg Extra urban 83.1 mpg Combined 78.5 mpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Only cars I've owned that regularly topped 50mpg were a Citroen BX turbo diesel and the Perodua Nippa. Only one of those offers comfort... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I'm getting 48 from my S80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRocker Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Kia Rio 1.1 diesel? DoctorRetro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRetro Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I get 43 - 49 MPG, and my car is certainly not tedious! If you could find a nice one, it would be perfect (ish) ? puddlethumper and Cavcraft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Laguna 2 DCi of course, comfortable and looks fantastic.........oh wait you want reliability anything peugeot citroen with the old 2.0 HDi will do low 50s quite comfortably 1.9 TDi passat is another good contendor weird how you're getting such low fuel economy from a spaceship civic, my dad frequently got low to mid 50s bunglebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 mtfu and scooby flat six obvs or v6 japanese or if youre a complete plant sniffer diesel spaceship civic or civic ima or mk2 honda insight not tedious - interesting anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, maxxo said: Laguna 2 DCi of course, comfortable and looks fantastic.........oh wait you want reliability anything peugeot citroen with the old 2.0 HDi will do low 50s quite comfortably 1.9 TDi passat is another good contendor weird how you're getting such low fuel economy from a spaceship civic, my dad frequently got low to mid 50s Mid 50s mpg from a 1.8 petrol Civic? I’m like driving miss Daisy and 47mpg is my best ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 his was the 2.2 diesel, but i've heard you can get 50ish from the 1.8 i can't help but feel i'd be tempted to stick with a car that will probably never go wrong maybe just part of me is getting sick of diesels and how long they take to get up to temp (i live near a dual carriageway and i hate merging with a cold engine) could try a 2.2 civic? those are pretty bulletproof (my dad got 257k from his before he traded it in with zero issues) and sound fantastic for a diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angle Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Early Mini One D? On a quick look most of them seem to have done big miles, but they have the 1.4 D4-D out of the Yaris, just with a bit more torque. Something like: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293662845902 garethj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angle Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Diesel Swift? I know the Fiat 1.3 probably hasn't got the best reputation, but I stuck 1500 miles on one in a month round Hungary and it was pleasant. Or a Panda with the same? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006059844847 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 VW Bora TDi 100S. 60mpg is easy. Plenty of momentum from low down for maximum coasting. Extreme coasting may see you within 80mpg (I once squeezed 86 for a trip), if the car is in good condition, and tyres are inflated to max allowable pressures ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Yes, but not tedious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazfr69 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Surely hypermiling everywhere will make just about any car tedious?I think my Smart is fun to drive and I can get almost 60 to the gallon out of it, but I wouldn’t want to drive it like that everywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Out Run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiesouwest Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 MG ZT with the oil burner and auto to negate the weak manual (unreliable) clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Nothing with an old IDI engine is going to cut it when it comes to fuel economy compared to a modern common rail injection system. If an old IDI can get very good fuel consumption (Citroen AX 1.5d for example) it's going to be glacially slow. Even a BX Turbodiesel, which will just about achieve 50mpg if you're careful is actually a remarkably slow car these days and will be tiresome in modern traffic. Has anyone mentioned a Mercedes A-class Diesel? They are supposed to do fairly decent empeegees and are now quite cheap. garethj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, loserone said: Yes, but not tedious There is actually a fun element chasing that extra last mile. Never found it tedious. The whole point of the game is to push that envelope. loserone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Anything pd engined will give good mpg. But what you save in fuel you'll spend on repairs as most are now driven into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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