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1976 Opel Manta coupe. A long haul project. Engine running!


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1 hour ago, stuboy said:

what tale?

Wondered if anyone else knew,  seemed to be folklore in Opel circles.

Many years back, someone was restoring a Manta "A". 1973ish. Needed a front valance, so went to his local Vauxhall/Opel dealer. Dealer did a part search and found 3 left in Europe, as they had been out of production for many years.. chap says, get me all 3. I'll  keep a spare, and someone in the club will surely appreciate one.

Dealer puts an order in to Europe parts network, Europe parts network computer sees it as a fast moving part, and sends a message to panel manufacturer to keep up with demand and they press 500 new ones.  There's probably 495 sitting gathering dust somewhere.

 

Might be shite, but heard the story a few times.  Its the only new panel you can get for an early Manta so I've heard.. just wondered if anyone else heard the same story..

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I’ve not heard that one before so not sure about that one! 
 

Last time I went to a Vauxhall dealer (circa 2008ish) and mentioned the word “manta” the parts guy replied with “sorry mate we threw the books out for them years ago”.

 

nice one, cheers. 

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30 minutes ago, DVee8 said:

I do really want one of those bumpers! Someone once offered one up for swap for a standard one, in Carmine red too but never heard owt back. 
 

today I have been mostly servicing the red 16valve hatch. C035A6CE-2DBF-49E2-8CB6-10579EC1FAB3.thumb.jpeg.664f9157fd7fc31f590ea46d215d5450.jpeg

 

and doing work on the 2.0 engine. Got the sump off, it’s a bit dented so I’ve found a spare but need to take it to work to give it a good clean (ran out of brake cleaner). Also put the engine on my bench with the help of mr crane. And replaced the crank seal 

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the old fashioned way

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small slither of grease round the spring to keep it in place 

 

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and hey presto! 
 

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also started cleaning the block and head. Soooo many layers of paint! 
 

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9 minutes ago, andy18s said:

I need to pull my finger out and find 1 here before pfices get too silly

I did find a couple of 2dr Asconas,but no-one wants them,dk they?

#sarcasm 

Where are you nowadays Andy? Been a while since I saw you last. 
 

a little more done on the engine. Got bored n started to paint. Taken almost 3 layers of paint off it. Black, red, black. 

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1 hour ago, andy18s said:

I need to pull my finger out and find 1 here before prices get too silly

I did find a couple of 2dr Asconas,but no-one wants them,do they?

#sarcasm 

That ship has sailed sadly! Been watching the market for a while and it's only going one way🙁

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1 hour ago, dome said:

That ship has sailed sadly! Been watching the market for a while and it's only going one way🙁

Watched a you tube video earlier about some car auction down south. There was a red hatch GT. Guide price 16-18 grand. FFS. 

Nobody wanted 1.8s, or hatches when I had my Mantas.. I was a Manta snob and would only be seen in white GTE Coupes.. and even they were a months wages... as an apprentice 😭

80s cars are the new property market and everyone involved with inflating the stupid values on them can fuck off. 

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My last 1.8s hatch ( hence the screen name)

It was a tidy daily driver that I bought for £500

Had it stolen,then found it 1 year later

Got it back complete but wrecked cosmetically. It sat for a few more months but I'd lost all interest in it

Sold it for parts and regretted it ever since....

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I remember that saga Andy. 
 

I got into mantas years ago because they were cheap and cheerful and I couldnt afford a mk2 escort. Glad I did, the two mantas I own cost me less than the price people ask for a 1.8 gearbox. I’d rather they were worthless, because I’ve no intention of ever selling them. 

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  • 1 month later...

More work has progressed on this project over the last few days. If it’s rusty, it’s been painted. Sourced a set of correct engine mounts to go on it. Original alternator turned out to be scrap and I was given another, which I had tested - good. 
 

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then I set to stripping the gearbox to replace the gaskets. Rear gasket involves stripping the internals out, which is a pain, but I managed it eventually.

 

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The selector shafts are an interesting concept. 

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and it’s all rebuilt with new gaskets. 
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Still waiting for parts. Clutch came  on Friday. Wrong. Guy thought I wanted a 9 inch but a 9 inch won’t fit any flywheel I have. Nor will it clear the 4 speed box. 
 

now I have an 8 inch clutch coming Tuesday night. Slightly more expensive. But at least it’s brand new old stock. 
 

so until that’s here, I have to get it ready for putting the engine in. Turned it round in the workshop. 
 

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9 hours ago, sutty2006 said:

 Now fitted, and test fitted the gearbox. All fits fine. Engine can go in now

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I'd no idea the gearbox in these was so small! Useful pic, I'll save that for future reference.

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Did the transmission tunnels change between the Manta B and C? I remember the getrag in my old GT/E as being a big lump of a thing.

 

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6 minutes ago, dome said:

Did the transmission tunnels change between the Manta B and C? I remember the getrag in my old GT/E as being a big lump of a thing.

 

Yes the 4 speed and 5 speed models had different tunnels. Some people fit the 5 speed and modify the linkage so they can keep the 4 speed lever. I’m not too fussed about that. 
 

current work in progress, strip and rebuild carburettor. 345A1AED-1625-4F31-A7BD-B5BAE8C8B252.thumb.jpeg.69c99c3f2c99495c23cd865166d3be13.jpeg

 

it looks messy in there!! 
 

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On 3/16/2021 at 11:36 PM, Barry Cade said:

Wondered if anyone else knew,  seemed to be folklore in Opel circles.

Many years back, someone was restoring a Manta "A". 1973ish. Needed a front valance, so went to his local Vauxhall/Opel dealer. Dealer did a part search and found 3 left in Europe, as they had been out of production for many years.. chap says, get me all 3. I'll  keep a spare, and someone in the club will surely appreciate one.

Dealer puts an order in to Europe parts network, Europe parts network computer sees it as a fast moving part, and sends a message to panel manufacturer to keep up with demand and they press 500 new ones.  There's probably 495 sitting gathering dust somewhere.

 

Might be shite, but heard the story a few times.  Its the only new panel you can get for an early Manta so I've heard.. just wondered if anyone else heard the same story..

I know someone who had loads, I'll ask him.

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While cleaning the carb I noticed something “not quite right”. 
 

what’s this? 
 

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tiny little metal tube.... did some image searching 

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ahhhh there it is. 
 

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and there it isn’t. So that gets sent in with a hammer. 

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Took the power valve out, that’s seized solid. Great. So ordered one of those for £20 off eBay. Webcon want £31 plus £7 postage. Get fucked.

 

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carried on with the needle. Took it out and the new one is the same. 2.00. Great. 
 

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and now I’ve got the floats in a tub of petrol to see if they leak in. 
 

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no that’s not my piss, it’s old mower petrol 😂

 

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19 minutes ago, sutty2006 said:

While cleaning the carb I noticed something “not quite right”. 
 

what’s this? 
 

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tiny little metal tube.... did some image searching 

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ahhhh there it is. 
 

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and there it isn’t. So that gets sent in with a hammer. 

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Took the power valve out, that’s seized solid. Great. So ordered one of those for £20 off eBay. Webcon want £31 plus £7 postage. Get fucked.

 

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carried on with the needle. Took it out and the new one is the same. 2.00. Great. 
 

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and now I’ve got the floats in a tub of petrol to see if they leak in. 
 

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no that’s not my piss, it’s old mower petrol 😂

 

Is that an anniversary snap on screwdriver?

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