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Wow, can't believe I haven't posted on here since the MoT fail in November.
This project is now going from bad to worse. Having finally managed to remove the cam belt and all the pulleys I only need to remove the water pump and I can start reassembly with new bits. Four bolts, all visible and easily accessible, so no problem. But wait, the hose outlet for the water pump is hidden behind the power-steering pump, so that needs to come off. No pictures or diagrams in the HBOL but it says remove the four bolts, the front ones are accessed through holes in the PS pump pulley. Impossible to see the bolts behind the pulley as it is only about an inch away from the inner wing rail and doesn't appear to be removable. I can feel the heads of three bolts through the holes in the pulley but I can't see to get a socket on them. Even if I could I think there is no chance of getting them out without losing the socket and at least one of the bolts. I also cannot see any sign of the supposed fourth bolt, so there is no point in trying to get the other three out if I can't find number four. Even if I could get the pump off I don't see how I could ever get it back on again as trying to get three bolts back through the holes in the pulley, then the holes in the pump, then threaded into the tapped holes in the engine block while working completely blind appears to be pretty much impossible. I am now used to having to take off loads of other stuff to access the part I need to remove and so far I have at least managed to do this, but this has me baffled.
Does anyone know how to remove  and replace this pump?
@sierraman ?  @egg ?
TIA for any help.
 

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The pulley has holes in it to access the retaining bolts, I think I’ve got a PAS pump somewhere I’ll have a look

I don’t think the bolts need to come out completely, just backwards enough not to hold it to the engine. I have a pulley but it’s in one of my sheds, I’ll have a look at the weekend.

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dunno how I missed this post..

Gorgeous Ghia, mates got an L plate Ghia or Si he's recently dragged back from his parents house, been in his family since it was 18months old..fair bit of grot on rear arches, but otherwise tidy..he also rebuilt the head when it was 4 or 5 years old as cambelt failed on him..same wheels as this one too..

 

OHHH the K reg close to me, turns out to be an L reg..LOL actually managed to look at the reg today!!!

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16 hours ago, egg said:

 

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Thanks for the diagrams. I have done all the other steps shown but on the actual car the "Detach the bottom hose at the water pump" sketch looks completely different. It is impossible to even see the hose stub on the water pump, let alone remove the hose. I think this must have been drawn with the power steering pump already removed, so I still have the same problem.
 

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52 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

Thanks for the diagrams. I have done all the other steps shown but on the actual car the "Detach the bottom hose at the water pump" sketch looks completely different. It is impossible to even see the hose stub on the water pump, let alone remove the hose. I think this must have been drawn with the power steering pump already removed, so I still have the same problem.
 

Frustrating.

Here are the PAS pump removal instructions...such as they are.

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Im assuming you’ve removed the lower aux belt cover from inside the wheel arch, this should allow you access. You’d have needed to do this anyway to get the gun on the bottom pulley bolt. 

Also, check underneath the pump with your hand, it may have a single 15mm bolt bolting it to the head pointing toward the back of the car. 

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10 minutes ago, egg said:

Frustrating.

Here are the PAS pump removal instructions...such as they are.

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Thanks for this. It does look as though the front three bolts have to be removed through the pulley but at least I can now see the location of the fourth bolt threading into the top of the pump from the back. I will look again when I get a chance.
 

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I'm reminded of my friend's father's K Reg; K***VKE. Metallic Red. It got many looks from the School Run Massiv as we were driven straight* home. 

Good memories! My first experience in a car with a big engine was the same chap's Mondeo. 

It was a V6 in an Atlantic Blue like colour. Context; I had a newish Lupo and the deal was someone should move it if the Parking Attendant appears. 

Obviously one did* so I had** to drive it around the block as agreed. 

I'm good like that... 😇

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