dollywobbler Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Brilliant. Following with very keen interest, as my brain just struggles to process the spec of these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davocano Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I've also found these cars to be very interesting, from since I were a nipper. There must've been one in a car book I had. Great to see that strange engine in bits. I'm still not entirely sure how it works tho... Have a few shots from Brooklands taken in recent years. ADV3774 was registered in Southern Rhodesia. Asimo, MarvinsMom, RayMK and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrydicky Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Here you go @plasticvandan I’d say it’s 1:24 scale at a guess? Handmade in brass. I bought it at Beaulieu, the seller had two the same. I wish I’d bought the other one now! adw1977, BeEP, Vantman and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, davocano said: Have a few shots from Brooklands taken in recent years. ADV3774 was registered in Southern Rhodesia. BF7987 and ADV are one and the same car, pre- and post-restoration. John has put pneumatics on so he can trial it. PD7704 is Jim's car, and XU is another local one to me belonging to Roger Armstrong Sudsprint, davocano, chaseracer and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 5 hours ago, plasticvandan said: All working,Wednesday was getting the ignition working again,carb and exhaust attached and: VID_20200408_192801938.mp4 18 MB · 0 downloads Awesome stuff! never seen a starting mechensiem like that, I thought that was the hand brake at first! im guessing it works like a motorcycle kickstart or pull starter except with a honking big pull lever and your arm! LOL being 2 stroke does it run on premix or is it another type of setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, davocano said: ADV3774 was registered in Southern Rhodesia. 1 hour ago, barrett said: BF7987 and ADV are one and the same car, pre- and post-restoration. John has put pneumatics on so he can trial it. ADV3774, 3 letter 4 digit non irish/NI registration mark, thats weird, going by the fact its on an age related BF plate, Im guessing said first registration was not a british one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSdriver Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Excellent thread, keep up the good work! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, LightBulbFun said: ADV3774, 3 letter 4 digit non irish/NI registration mark, thats weird, going by the fact its on an age related BF plate, Im guessing said first registration was not a british one? Yes, ADV is the Rhodesian plate, it has no relationship to British numbering systems! It was registered with the BF plate later LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, barrett said: Yes, ADV is the Rhodesian plate, it has no relationship to British numbering systems! It was registered with the BF plate later ah thought so, thats what I get for not googling things/locations LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggersdog Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Wow, what an interesting engine.My new favourite thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobblers Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said: ah thought so, thats what I get for not googling things/locations LOL In your defence there is a place called Rhodesia about 15 miles from Mansfield. LightBulbFun, spartacus and loserone 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 That model is gorgeous angrydicky wish the car was as nice,it's being a total shit and we have run out of ideas,I've had it run for about 20 seconds once today,and apart from the occasional fire,it's not having it.cracking spark,pretty sure the timing is right,it behaves like it's flooded so been starting with full throttle,then it seems to run out of fuel.plugs aren't getting wet either,and I've run out of easy start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstraight6 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Brilliant thread this, I’m learning a lot as I never really knew much about Trojan vehicles. That engine is very novel, I’d imagine it’s great fun to drive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Usual favourite for that sort of symptoms on a two stroke would be a vacuum leak around one of the seals into the crankcase. I'd give it a decent squirt of fuel down the plug hole into each cylinder then see what happens. I've always found two strokes can be a bit of a git to get to go the first couple of times after a long hibernation. Getting the plugs roasting hot before throwing them back into the head can often be helpful. After dropping some fuel into the cylinders, I'd start with choke off, half throttle and see where you get. Obviously every engine is different and experimentation will be needed. If it runs for a second or two but then dies repeatably I'd start looking at the carb to make sure you're getting fuel. What sort of carb setup does this run? LightBulbFun, Kringle, brownnova and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 This has a large brass Trojan carb,fixed jets.the engine has no crank seals like you would find in a normal 2 stroke engine.im pretty well versed in strokers as I've been riding mzs for 15 years,but this is being a twat.the carb has for some reason had a modified intake fitted, comprising two elbows linked with hose to move the carb to face forwards instead of being bolted direct to the manifold.although it ran (albeit hard to start) with this when my dad got it,I'm thinking that the contorted inlet tract us causing a lack of fuel so I'm going to try getting it back to stock.i did strip,clean and fit new washers to the carb which was loose and leaking,and it's now fuel tight so that's a start. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Does it still have the priming pump fitted? Does it work? If not easy start in the inlet should help, but even standard it must be the longest and least efficient inlet on any car ever. It should take about 16 pulls to fire, don't be despondent if it doesn't go first, fifth or fifteenth time. Offer still stands to put you in touch with the marque guru if you'd like some advice. He knows this car well. Dick Longbridge, Justin Case, spike60 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hi Barrett,yes that would be great,I don't want to give up,as my dad has pretty much and I can't blame him,your inlet tract comment has confirmed my thoughts of what I'm going to try today,and that is to fit the carb onto the manifold and do away with the double elbow,which is basically doubling the length and making it go round a bend! Yes the primer is working very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsprint Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Fantastic thread. My Grandfather (he died in 1952) had a Trojan as his first company car. He worked for the Kent Messenger in Sittingbourne and would drive out into the Weald of Kent to report on village fetes and cricket matches. A dream job really. I don't know whether it was in the distinctive Kent Messenger yellow and black livery his later Austin 7 Box saloon was in, but my Grandmother (she died in 1997 at 103) remembered he hated the knobbly ride and that he destroyed the windscreen because he forgot to fold it down before driving into their converted shed garage. Still looking for photos but I don't think any exist sadly. Amishtat, spartacus, LightBulbFun and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhatfoolish Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 davocano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Did any one collect the PG Tips History of the Motor Car cards? I'm 'aware' of quite a few rarer cars due to my exposure to these -eg Mercer, Napier-Railton and the Trojan. In fact as soon as I saw Trojan in the title my first thought was the PG card - the colour, the wheels and the tent like hood. This series was from 1968 - I can't remember what I did last week though... Sudsprint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, martc said: Did any one collect the PG Tips History of the Motor Car cards? I'm 'aware' of quite a few rarer cars due to my exposure to these -eg Mercer, Napier-Railton and the Trojan. In fact as soon as I saw Trojan in the title my first thought was the PG card - the colour, the wheels and the tent like hood. This series was from 1968 - I can't remember what I did last week though... I think a planner in Tamworth did. Whenever I drive around that area I think how cool it would be to arrange a car show on there with each make on their respective street. Tickman, Asimo and LightBulbFun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 It lives! BUT the water jacket gasket is leaking into the combustion chamber,got very hot and has steam cleaned the plugs.not having a picture or thickness idea for the gasket hasn't helped,now I've got to work out if I can take the cover off without removing the engine,as the front engine mounting is this cover as to what stopped it starting,the timing was a mile off,and the distributor drive locator was loose as well. VID_20200411_123251253.mp4 spike60, Asimo, Kringle and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Looks very much like a Leyland badge on the dashboard. Is it? LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 Yes,they were built in the Leyland truck factory LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Never knew that. I like it even more with a Leyland scroll on it. It looks just as smokey as the Leyland O600 in my (ex) bus on a cold morning too LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I know nowt about these things. If the engine is tucked away neatly under the floor what is hidden under the bonnet? LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 Fuel tank and not much else! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerNuttz Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 This old thing is fascinating, never even knew these existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/27th-june-1922/24/the-leyland-trojan-utility-vehicle THE LEYLAND-TROJAN UTILITY VEHICLE. | 27th June 1922 | The Commercial Motor Archive.webarchive Sudsprint, Carlosfandango, loserone and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 Well it looks like the engine has to come out again,a previous owner suspects a cracked block. Anyone want a cheap Trojan? ? puddlethumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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