egg Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, beko1987 said: @Pillock or @cobblers could knock one up in 5 minutes with the values known. Thanks Beko and LBF Here are the values... https://forums.mg-rover.org/threads/heater-fan.561458/ Quote Or my preferred solution to replace the Rover one with two 0.5 (or 0.47) OHM metal clad resistors (25 watt rating) mounted on the panel where the old one was. I used some shrink tubing to protect the connections. I got mine from RS components as I'm in the trade but try Maplin. I probably would need some help from somebody who knows what they are doing though! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Doing that would be the easy part, it's making it not huge and ugly and not waterproof I couldn't do! Little breadboard, one of those proper nice sealing little tupperwares and some hot glue and your laughing LightBulbFun and egg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig the Princess Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, egg said: Thanks Beko and LBF Here are the values... https://forums.mg-rover.org/threads/heater-fan.561458/ I probably would need some help from somebody who knows what they are doing though! I don't know much, but don't bother with Maplin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, beko1987 said: Doing that would be the easy part, it's making it not huge and ugly and not waterproof I couldn't do! Little breadboard, one of those proper nice sealing little tupperwares and some hot glue and your laughing given the amount of current we are dealing with here, id be more inclined to do it old school point to point without a PCB like an old Valve radio (how much power does a Metro blower motor draw?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds1 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 See what the mgf owners do, after all the mgf is practically a metro with its engine in the boot. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Happy to help with a radius arm greasing session, as I've got guns and grease here. It always seem to turn into a mucky job, even though I've done mine numerous times. The dragster look the Rover Metros get is due to the hydragas cans being linked front to rear, whereas on Austins the two fronts are individual and the rears connected to eachother. Over time the nitrogen must escape more readily from the front cans (via the diaphragm in the unit) which could be due to the extra weight and impacts at the front. Dunno, that's a guess...So when you pump them up with fluid it takes more to fill the fronts. Can be tricky to get right, as too much in the rears can cause the suspension to top out and thud easily (in my limited experience of having owned a Rover 114). egg, GrumpiusMaximus, BeEP and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, egg said: You wind the window down to adjust the wing mirrors. At least it has two of those Yup. We sold shit loads of n/s mirrors as aftersales as only o/s was standard on bottom, or bottom 2, trim levels. GDM 601 & 602 springs to mind, but it was a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Looks tidy and the colour suits the shape well. That key ring looks lush also! I like a good key ring! egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said: given the amount of current we are dealing with here, id be more inclined to do it old school point to point without a PCB like an old Valve radio (how much power does a Metro blower motor draw?) I'd do the same- some comformal coating and perhaps surrounding that in heatshrink woulkd see it right! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bloke Next Door Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 It does look a bit dragster, could be the front cans need re-gassing. I wouldn't be to worried about crashing it compared to similar cars of the era. This wrote off a Fiat Punto and Vauxall Astra and the driver ( my son ) walked away uninjured. Craig the Princess, egg and mrbenn 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-cylinder Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Imagine having 75 bhp and 5 gears! I gave it all up for Mrs6C's wish for a MK1 71 bhp with 4 gears! egg, BL Bloke, michael t and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-cylinder Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Then there was this ungrateful little ***** 75 bhp 5 gears and electric front windows! I was given it HGF on this forum and my friend helped me change the head gasket, but in spite of everything we did it would heat up quickly. I stood it in the field and one day I got it out to photograph it for an advert and it was fine. Hairnet drove it backwards around the field and it was still fine so I can only think it was an airlock. By then I had bought the fully running beautiful SLi in nightfire so sold it on for the price of the bits still needing an MOT. egg, BL Bloke and mrbenn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETCHY Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 7 hours ago, The Old Bloke Next Door said: It does look a bit dragster, could be the front cans need re-gassing. I wouldn't be to worried about crashing it compared to similar cars of the era. This wrote off a Fiat Punto and Vauxall Astra and the driver ( my son ) walked away uninjured. I agree, crash resistance wouldn't overly concern me either. A lot was made of the 100/ Metro's lack of crash resistance but it has to be put into context. The basic shell lived far longer than intended. When Metro came out in 1980 it was actually on a par or better than it's contemporaries. It just lived so long that in that respect there wasn't much Rover could do as the basic shell was an old design never designed to meet a much harsher offset crash test. It was designed to hit a barrier at 30 mph head on & did that rather well. A 1970's/1980's Fiesta or Polo would be pretty similar in an offset crash test or probably worse. A friend of mine worked at TRL where they crash test cars & couldn't believe how poor a breadvan type Polo was in a wallop but nobody goes on about them being unsafe. The Old Bloke Next Door, Craig the Princess, Mr Pastry and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 @sheffcortinacentre - thanks for the HBOL. 500tops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Let's check the air filter, oh there's not one... what's that pink thing?! Oh, I think the water leak status has just been upgraded to 'urgent' Bugger! I just hope the previous owner didn't cook it. Six-cylinder and Crispian_J_Hotson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 One compensation of a possibly large garage bill is the parts that came with it, cambelt and tensioner, a tiny water pump and cam cover seal. There's also a drive belt that has got mud on it! So I also probably need...(or garage supplies with their mark-up) an air filter Oil filter Oil Spark plugs Coolant Some section of the nearside driveshaft/CV joint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Not much time today, but enough to see that the expansion tank is now almost empty of coolant (and what a rusty old tank it is). So it hasn't lost all its water at least. Here's the thing though, the car was in daily use supposedly with the previous owner, and I more or less believe that as I couldn't take the car until the new one had arrived (a Pug 107 as it happens) and the owner had also previously posted in the FB group that it was a day to day car. So, I guess I have just got unlucky, or they were topping it up every day/week. Reminds me a bit of my Mondy GLX which I drove home and then shat it's coolant all over the road. But I'm determined to get this sorted. I'm just trying not to think Ghosty-HGF thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin-Cam Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, egg said: Not much time today, but enough to see that the expansion tank is now almost empty of coolant (and what a rusty old tank it is). So it hasn't lost all its water at least. Here's the thing though, the car was in daily use supposedly with the previous owner, and I more or less believe that as I couldn't take the car until the new one had arrived (a Pug 107 as it happens) and the owner had also previously posted in the FB group that it was a day to day car. So, I guess I have just got unlucky, or they were topping it up every day/week. Reminds me a bit of my Mondy GLX which I drove home and then shat it's coolant all over the road. But I'm determined to get this sorted. I'm just trying not to think Ghosty-HGF thoughts... My worst nightmare is finding a coolant leak on my Metro. You know, head gaskets and that. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Indeed. I guess many K-series cars have covered many millions of miles without head gasket failure, but when an engine is 29 year's old, it would almost be better to know it has failed and been fixed! From what I have read, the 1.1 seems the least likely to do it though. I also noticed rain water has got on to the scuttle (under the bonnet vent) driver's side, so another issue to address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 12:35 PM, egg said: Let's check the air filter, oh there's not one... what's that pink thing? Crankcase ventillation perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainagain Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 rather than messing around with resistors what about something like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32840532022.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3a0358f7jCR5iY&algo_pvid=d9d50040-99f5-413f-a2f3-aba8b0100035&algo_expid=d9d50040-99f5-413f-a2f3-aba8b0100035-0&btsid=0b0a3f8115825440337055304ef669&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ pulse width control delivered for less than £1. The one above does up to 10A, how much current does the blower motor take? There's a 20A version with a remote dial which might be easier to mount for just under £4 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32945688578.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3a0358f7jCR5iY&algo_pvid=d9d50040-99f5-413f-a2f3-aba8b0100035&algo_expid=d9d50040-99f5-413f-a2f3-aba8b0100035-17&btsid=0b0a3f8115825440337055304ef669&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ LightBulbFun and egg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Interesting idea - infinite* speed control?! You'd have to explain to me how that would be wired in. Spliced into existing switch wiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 Thanks to @JimH for the donation of an OEM cassette player! I don't have any of the connectors on the car, just bare wires, but it can't be beyond the wit of even an egg to do something with it. BorniteIdentity, BL Bloke, MorrisItalSLX and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 from memory rover radio wiring colours are thus blue, green, orange & grey- 4 pairs with trace on one of each colour = speakers brown or purple= perm 12v+ red= switched 12v black= earth orange?= lighting circuit for display illumination/dimming take a pic of loom and it might jog my memory betterer egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispian_J_Hotson Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 8:17 PM, egg said: Indeed! And I've done it on my Mondeo too with an OEM part for less than a tenner....but on the little Metro... https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-JGM100090 https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/austin-metro-heater-fan-resistor-afp5072.html For example. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 Thanks, I have seen that one too, but I thought it wasn't quite right as connectors on the resistor look to be in a different place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispian_J_Hotson Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I can see why they are dear too, they are popular LR Series heater conversions by the looks of things. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispian_J_Hotson Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, egg said: Thanks, I have seen that one too, but I thought it wasn't quite right as connectors on the resistor look to be in a different place? It wouldn't bother me. I can't imagine BL/ Rover launching an R and D exercise and development of a new heater control for a metro which is largely taken from the old metro. But then that's probably why I have an excessive amount of parts bought that don't fit. It's the chase, if it works then how awesome would that be? I have to do this stuff every time one of my 3 cars gets a problem or pay a ransom. I thought VW used something similar too in the 80's/ 90's, I'd even throw one of those on! egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Lovely metro, this thread has started me browsing the usual places for a cheap one! Microwave, egg, BorniteIdentity and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinmasters Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 7:23 PM, egg said: ...All this Lucas immobilser gubbins just needs to go - will need to tag our electric experts on that probably. Y tho? RobT, BlankFrank, dozeydustman and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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