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First was as an 18 year old in my 950 MK1 Fiesta, woman in front started to pull out of a junction, then stopped half way out - by which time I was looking right for oncoming traffic. Fixed her 205 with a scrapyard bumper. Think I just had to straighten the bumper brackets on mine.

 

First and only "proper" one was losing the arse of my 1600E Orion at 50 in the wet down a country lane. At 22 I didn't have any real experience of controlling FWD lift-off oversteer, and it was running 13" Fiesta Supersport wheels. I remember screaming like a girl while broadside across the road, before hitting the verge, the wooden Weald Country Park sign, taking off and coming to rest in the hedge. Wouldn't drive out, so I went and found the (unimpressed) park keeper to retrieve me with his Land Rover. Possibly the worst part was seeing my then-girlfriend waiting at the traffic lights, and her face as I turned in front of her, revealing the damaged side.

Liberated a same-colour bonnet off a dumped Escort, bought a matching door and fitted a new wing and half a sill - the sign crushed the sill up into the door so it wouldn't open. Scissor jack and large hammers straightened the floor after cutting the sill off, attaching the front subframe to a chain and a 20 foot storage container and reversing on full lock a few times put the parallelogram front end back where it should be. Drove well afterwards but I sold it to a young chap soon after. Didn't last long following that. Had a very colourful history anyway.

Oh and when I returned to the scene, I realised on the other side of the hedge was a very deep pond...

Video screenshot of the aftermath

 

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Sill, bonnet and door done, wing to do

 

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^ Excellent * colour match

 

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These were not the only skid marks I left that day!

 

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Few scrapes before but first proper crash was in a 1998 Volvo Olympian bus, rear ended on an A road by a VW Passat that was driving too close and not paying attention. When I checked the mirrors as I slowed down due to the car in front turning right there was nothing in them, then an almighty thump and the engine flaps sprang open. The back of the bus was stoved in and it had to be recovered. Including loss of earnings for it being off the road 3 and a half weeks the bill to his insurance company was over £10k.

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As a passenger, being in the front seat of my dad's B3 Passat as he drove up a motorway sliproad to be confronted by a Golf sitting stationary in the middle of it with no chance of avoidance.  If I smell burning tyres it always reminds me of that day as my dad locked up to try and avoid it.  No injuries and not too much damage to the old barge.

As a driver, was on my way to college in Wolverhampton one day and went round a parked lorry (on double yellows) in the four-lane bit at Chapel Ash just off the ring road.  Just in front of the lorry was the exit to a car park and as I approached a Merc pulled out to turn right across both lanes without checking if there was any traffic obscured by the lorry.  No chance to react, WALLOP into his front corner.  Merc had no visible damage, I was in a Rover 100 so you can imagine what that looked like afterwards (was well and truly written off).  Lorry driver saw what had happened and promptly drove off!  Luckiy a witness had got his number which I gave to the police (passing copper stopped when he saw the remains of my Metro) but I never heard if he got done for it.  I've called that bit of Wolverhampton "Chapel Crash" ever since, especially as the witness who helped me afterwards said there are smashes there about once a week.

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I drove an E36 BMW 318is through a peugeot 308 in my early twenties. My car was fine after a new mirror and a new alloy. The peugeot was written off.

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Two things still really stick with me.  Firstly is that absolutely sickening bang from the impact.

Secondly was the astonishing degree that a goodness knows how many G forced deceleration like that can redistribute the contents of the car.  I recall finding one of the tapes that lived in the driver's door pocket on the rear parcel shelf.  Stuff was just scattered everywhere.

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1985 Saab 900 TII 8v 2 door (bit of a rarity!) 

boosted me off in an off guard moment; slithered understeering through a dry stone wall.

Power- how hard you hit the wall

Torque- how far you carry on for after.

bonnet concertinad up, and loads of mesh and filler blew out of the front wings. Game over but it’s gearbox went into my next 900.

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Alan Clark in his collected motoring writings (backfire) wrote that the scary bits for him were the moments of silence in the middle of an accident (eg when travelling through the air)

IIRC his first crash was In his first car (a jaguar SS 100)

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42 minutes ago, bangernomics said:

 

What was your first crash in? Well mine was in my mum’s metallic bronze chevette. Right up the arse of a white mini clubman that slammed on for no reason. Unfortunately for him it was witnessed and it went 50/50.

 

 

 

Must be something about Chevettes, I had my first serious prang in my Chevette GLS hatch. I was going far too fast when approaching a T-Junction and thought I could do a little handbrake turn to impress the girls standing on the corner. Alas, the poor hero was foiled as the road camber caused the Chevette to travel sideways instead of turning right around and I went head first into a 6-month old red Metro 5-door, almost writing it off (E409ASO was the plate on the Metro).

Said Chuvvit was repaired and provided sterling service for another year or so and was sold on so that I could buy my first Capri. The buyer had it two days and rolled it in a field. RIP USO965S

 

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First experience of a car hitting something it shouldn't, my mother was learning to drive in our 1978 mk1 Fiesta. Pulled out of a very tight T, 14' rough stone wall all round because some string-vest and buttcracks were digging up the road. One stood back a bit, seeing there wasn't enough room, leaning on his shovel, smoking a cigarette and waved my mother forward, who promptly bumped the front corner of the car into the wall. He shrugged and started to complain that we were in the way.

 

Next one was much later as a passenger. Mk2 Clio on a wet road just outside Walsall, coming up the road to the arboretum to the slightly posessed pedestrian crossing lights at the top just by the shops before the roundabout. They would sit and cycle randomly despite nobody having pressed the button. Buddy of mine was driving at the time and he was trying to pass up another car on the dual carriageway before it ran out at the top of the hill, pulled in after she slowed and turned off, to look forward just in time to see the Sierra estate in front of us stamp on his brakes for the yellow light. I remember bracing myself against the seat and waiting the eternity as the car slid with that "zvweeeeeeuuuuuuuu" noise of tyres on wet tarmac before CRONK and the Sierra mostly disappeared from view, hidden by the now-modified bonnet.

Guy in the Sierra got out, annoyed.. buddy was highly apologetic, Sierra driver looked at the damage to his car (bumper slightly bent) and the damage to ours (significantly worse), smiled, opened the tailgate, leaned in, reset the fuel pump inertia switch, told my buddy not to worry about it and drove away. I drove the car in a cloud of steam with a single headlight pointing up into the trees all the way back to Aldridge. Pulled the worst of it out, replaced the headlights and he traded the car in against a Fiat Seicento. Fun times, thankfully only pride was hurt in both cases.

 

--Phil

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First car I wrote off was a Twingo GT, hit water on a slip road in Glasgow. Made the paper! https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/car-facing-wrong-way-m8-12521256

Had I gone through the barrier, you can see how high up I was, right above a dual carriageway. Would've been nasty.

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First car I had a scrape in was a 75... I was in the right hand lane at a roundabout to go straight, a van was in the left which was the lane to go left, and he cut right across me, taking a massive chunk out of the front quarter of the car. He sped off, obviously. I would later go on to back that 75 into a wall, and to scrape a stationary van in a car park, because I was shit at parking. Good times.

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I was 18 and driving back from the 2005 Reading Festival, middle lane of the M4 doing about 75mph and my right rear tyre blew out. All a bit of a blur but basically it went sideways quickly and slid off the road, rolled over into the ditch and back upright where it came to a stop. I can still vividly remember opening the door and stepping out on to the windscreen which had come out when the car was upside down. Had 2 friends in the car with me but we were all fine, not a scratch.

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Was a bit gutted as it was my first car and I'd passed my test in it, but it could have been a lot worse.

 

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I've had a few scuffs & scrapes which I don't count, anything you can drive away from doesn't count, right?

My only (so far) big crash involved the total destruction of two Ford Sierras, the one I was driving and the one I T-boned at an unmarked crossroads. I didn't see the junction hidden by trees on an unfamiliar road at night and didn't even have time to brake so I went into his front wheel at a good 30mph, luckily for his passenger he hadn't been 10 feet further up the road. My Sierra which I'd had for all of a week ended up shorter than a Fiesta, the front crumple zone/rusty 10 year old Ford bodywork did its job and I was able to open the door and extract myself, battered and bruised but essentially unharmed. Ditto the occupants of the other car, thankfully.

I went in to the yard where the tow truck dumped the car to collect my stuff out it the next day and they were quite surprised I was uninjured given the state the car was in. No pictures unfortunately but I did keep the rear number plate as a souvenir.

My old Granny was not surprised I'd come to grief in a car with that reg number.

 

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It was here in my first car a 1983 Suzuki SJ410. I was coming down the hill in the rain driving too enthusiastically as expected for a newly qualified driver and didn't anticipate there being a queue of traffic, I hit the brakes, locked them up and slid into a car pretty much where the red car is in the image. The guy I hit was cool about it and no damage appeared to have been caused so I didn't have to exchange insurance details luckily. I managed to crash the same vehicle into a wooden stump in Sutton Park a few weeks later which bent a track rod and made it drive funny for the couple of miles back home.

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54 minutes ago, Zelandeth said:

Two things still really stick with me.  Firstly is that absolutely sickening bang from the impact.

Secondly was the astonishing degree that a goodness knows how many G forced deceleration like that can redistribute the contents of the car.  I recall finding one of the tapes that lived in the driver's door pocket on the rear parcel shelf.  Stuff was just scattered everywhere.

Yeah, I'll never forget the tarmac tearing its way through the floor as I came to a halt many yards from impact. It was like crash landing a spacecraft is the description I've always used!

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25 minutes ago, Steviemillar said:

thought I could do a little handbrake turn to impress the girls standing on the corner

This is not a dig at you, but is there proof anywhere that any female has ever been successfully impressed by someone doing a handbrake turn? (Other than spectators at a rally, of course.)

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Mine was boring, my W reg 206. Slipped on a roundabout 3 weeks after passing my test. Didn't realise/feel I was slipping and slid gracefully until I kissed a crash barrier at low speed and just scraped the front wing up a bit...

Fixed it with ebay parts and carried on.

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Actually thinking about it, the crash in the CX I mentioned above was not the first time I crashed with me in charge of a vehicle, there was also the time I came off my fizzie when I was 16.

Was on the way to work when the metro in front slammed his brakes on to try a make a turn he hadn’t seen, I grabbed a huge handful of the tiny cable operated drum front brake, failed completely to even slow down much, let alone stop and went over the handlebars into a crumpled mess as I smacked the metro rear hatch. As I picked myself up from the road the guy got out the metro and said to me ‘cor, I thought you were dead’
I assured him I wasn’t and proceeded to pick my bike up. Wheeled it to the side of the road, observed the broken front indicator, brake lever and mashed in headlight, literally no other damage.
The metro on the other hand had a big dent in the hatch and somehow the rear exhaust box had come off.
The guy apologised for stopping so suddenly and told me he wasn’t insured so we had better just bugger off, which we did.

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44 minutes ago, Zelandeth said:

Two things still really stick with me.  Firstly is that absolutely sickening bang from the impact.

 

 

Yep, I've only had relatively low speed shunts and I don't think you forget the noise as the best reminder about how much force a tonne plus of metal can create when it's moving.

 

I can't remember which came first

Car wise

My first was in a MKIV Fiesta, my parents live at the top of a hill, down at the bottom is a T junction with the stop line 10 meters after the river that is created from terrible drainage there. A Seicento had stopped at the line, I pressed the pedal down and didn't.... The Fiesta needed a new bumper, a headlight and a headlight, the Seicento was written off.

The driver I hit was fine, her gobby mate was a bit of a tosser and I guess the one that encouraged the driver to rent a mid sized car and claim injury damages. Admiral who I was with were great when it came to that as the ambulance chasing stuff came through well after a year later, they offered her £50 quid to cover her 'damages' beyond the car or were happy to go to court.

Sometime later I also aquaplaned on the M4 where everything queues for the M25, released the pedal to avoid the queue and went for the hardshoulder instead (kids ask your grandparents what they were) nicked the barrier marginally with no real damage done. At that point I sacked off the no brand tyres that had come with the car and in hindsight had a suspiciously large amount of tread left on them considering how many miles they'd done. I know budgets have improved since then but I'd never fit anything below a mid range myself.

Bike wise

Honda City Fly

On my first attempt at a CBT I struggled with clutch control on the off road section, and was told that I would have to come back another day but have a few more laps of the tennis courts they were using. Felt this was fair enough, went round a few times and the instructor said actually keep going then we'll head out. I managed to dump the bike the next lap, when things start going wrong don't release the clutch and hold on.... A pillion ride back to base and a producer from the police for skipping the queue going along the hard shoulder and that was the end of part one of my bike career.

Kymco Agility 50

As that's off road it doesn't really count, so on to my second attempt at getting a CBT a while later. Having struggled with the clutch, I thought I'd go for doing it on a moped and then I could later learn gears at my own time in a car park. Firstly, restricted mopeds are the scariest vehicles on the road, hugging the white line at 30 on a national speedlimit dual carrigeway in the rain was not great. Neither was crashing on a zebra crossing, as mentioned it was raining, I didn't see some people waiting to cross until I got a radio message. Started braking then hit the painted part of the crossing then straight down. The kymco crashed a lot better than the city fly and I mainly learnt my lesson in relation to having stuff in my pockets due to landing on a tin of mints. 

The fun didn't quite end there, as the 16 year old that was doing the CBT at the time didn't stop and turns out went the wrong way down a one way street. The rideout had an extra hour tagged on while listening to instructor swearing over the radio trying to find the other kid. I'm not sure how many people crash and still get given a certificate but the instructor felt that the unplanned hour in Cambridge during rush hour wiped out my mistake and probably never wanted to see me again.

So I really shouldn't be allowed on the roads in the wet, certainly not without ABS, which the VFR doesn't have 😥

 

 

 

 

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First for me was in my 87 Volvo 740 saloon. I got rear ended by a 2004 Peugeot 607. I was stopped then felt an almighty thud go through the car. Looked in the rear view mirror and saw something very close to the back of the car and bits of plastic and glass going everywhere. It was obvious what had happened but I remember being immediately extremely angry and my first concern was my lovely car being damaged!

Got out, walked around the back fearing the worst... 

The Rear light lense had a crack and a tiny piece broken off the corner and there was a faint scuff to the black bumper corner.

The Peugeot was fucked! Whole front end hanging off, both headlights, grille etc smashed. Bonnet bent at the very front edge, both wings bent at the front. It looked a right state, but the severity of it became clear when the Peugeot’s front passenger tried getting out but the front door wouldn’t open!

I glued the broken piece of my light back on with super glue and did a 200 mile trip straight after the accident. Couldn’t believe how lightly I’d gotten away with that tbh, I’d expected much worse. Good old Volvo’s! Even the Peugeot driver couldn’t believe the damage. He looked at my car and said ‘they built them far too well!’. 

 

Second crash was only a minor one really. I was in a 2010 Merc Sprinter van and some stupid cow in a nearly new BMW 3 series tried using the wrong lane of a roundabout to overtake all the patient law abiding drivers in the correct lanes then cut back across to take the exit she wanted. There was nowhere near enough room to cut across in front of me so we hit. The front corner of my van smacked the rear quarter of her Bimmer leaving a massive dent and scrape down the rear door and rear quarter panels! She then failed to stop afterwards so I reported her to the police. Stupidly, she turned around between the front seats and looked right at me immediately after the accident then drove off without exchanging details, which gave me a full description of her and I got her number plate. The police ended up having to go to pay her a visit! No damage to my van other than a little scuff to the bumper and wing. 

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about 3 years ago, driving my dads 2010 Citroen c4 picasso......the first time i drove after passing my test,

approaching some traffic lights on red, i just didn't brake hard enough and bumped the taxi in front, no visable damage to either car thank god

plus the taxi driver let me off with it..........still haven't told my dad, doesn't have that car now he drives a spaceship civic

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First and only accident was a couple of years ago at the ripe old age of 27 in a Jag XJ40. I was stopped at a Zebra crossing watching someone cross, then bang as an Alfa Mito rear ended me for no reason. I remember I was just standing on the brake pedal instinctively as the Mito could have pushed me into the person on the road. The driver of the Alfa took full responsibility and I got £2000 cash and a free rental car for weeks. 

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1 hour ago, Zelandeth said:

Two things still really stick with me.  Firstly is that absolutely sickening bang from the impact.

Secondly was the astonishing degree that a goodness knows how many G forced deceleration like that can redistribute the contents of the car.  I recall finding one of the tapes that lived in the driver's door pocket on the rear parcel shelf.  Stuff was just scattered everywhere.

That bang is awful isn't it? I remember the bang and the sudden jolt forward followed by sky and concrete as I went arse over end numerous times I didn't see him coming which in turn means it must be worse for you knowing it was coming and inevitable. I had a roll cab in the back and a few smaller boxes. Most of my tools were scattered round the yorkshire countryside and fuck only knows where the roll cab ended

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Some very interesting reads here. The worst part of an accident comes 1-2 hours after when your body starts shaking.

I passed my test age 17 and and had to wait until the age of 59 for my first and so far, only accident, just 2 miles from home. I met a car trying to overtake a bus on a blind bend. The driver was looking down and to the left. (He later admitted that he was trying to tune his radio)  At the last possible moment, the driver looked up, saw me and swung his wheel violently to the left but too late. I honestly thought it would be a head on collision. I remember the bang as my right tire exploded, absorbing much of the impact. It wiped out my wing, drivers door, wing mirror, etc., and I was pushed onto the verge by the impact. I actually bought my Rover 820, after looking at its construction and thinking that it was car that would keep me safe in the event of an accident. I chose steel wheels as they fold in an impact, and my right wheel did just that. I still own that same car today,  years later.

Got out of the car a bit dazed, and adjusting to this situation and noticed a young guy walking towards me,  holding his hands up and shouting, "it was my fault, my fault". I had to calm him down and the cops were not long in arriving. We walked back to his car, a Nova and it was a mess, the whole right side had severe damage and the tires were flat, it was undrivable. This was his first car, only having passed his test 2 weeks before, he must have felt totally gutted.

The AA refused to assist me, as it was an accident, not a breakdown. They would only come out if I could pay their driver £120 on the spot. Otherwise, tough luck.  I learned a lot from this accident. Never assume that the other drivers insurance will be anxcious to settle your claim. Give them 3 months, then issue a Small Claims Court summons to get compensation for your damage. Once they recieve a summons, they realise that you are serious and are not going away. After an accident, your own insurance will reward you with a hefty rise in your next renewal premium, even if you were totally without blame.

The next time you get in your car, say a silent prayer and be prepared for anything to happen. This may be your day for the big one. Stay safe people.

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32 minutes ago, tommytwo said:

Some very interesting reads here. The worst part of an accident comes 1-2 hours after when your body starts shaking.

I passed my test age 17 and and had to wait until the age of 59 for my first and so far, only accident, just 2 miles from home. I met a car trying to overtake a bus on a blind bend. The driver was looking down and to the left. (He later admitted that he was trying to tune his radio)  At the last possible moment, the driver looked up, saw me and swung his wheel violently to the left but too late. I honestly thought it would be a head on collision. I remember the bang as my right tire exploded, absorbing much of the impact. It wiped out my wing, drivers door, wing mirror, etc., and I was pushed onto the verge by the impact. I actually bought my Rover 820, after looking at its construction and thinking that it was car that would keep me safe in the event of an accident. I chose steel wheels as they fold in an impact, and my right wheel did just that. I still own that same car today,  years later.

Got out of the car a bit dazed, and adjusting to this situation and noticed a young guy walking towards me,  holding his hands up and shouting, "it was my fault, my fault". I had to calm him down and the cops were not long in arriving. We walked back to his car, a Nova and it was a mess, the whole right side had severe damage and the tires were flat, it was undrivable. This was his first car, only having passed his test 2 weeks before, he must have felt totally gutted.

The AA refused to assist me, as it was an accident, not a breakdown. They would only come out if I could pay their driver £120 on the spot. Otherwise, tough luck.  I learned a lot from this accident. Never assume that the other drivers insurance will be anxcious to settle your claim. Give them 3 months, then issue a Small Claims Court summons to get compensation for your damage. Once they recieve a summons, they realise that you are serious and are not going away. After an accident, your own insurance will reward you with a hefty rise in your next renewal premium, even if you were totally without blame.

The next time you get in your car, say a silent prayer and be prepared for anything to happen. This may be your day for the big one. Stay safe people.

Driving for a fortnight and decides to tune his radio while overtaking on a blind bend?  I'm surprised you didn't knock all his teeth out.

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