LoftyvRS Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Something practical and underrated maybe? What about a Nissan Primera P10 eGT? Sublime handling, good performance and practical to boot! tom13 and DVee8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Amazed no one has suggested an R8 Rover, the 216 Gti or 220/420 is pretty quick and the 2 doo versions are an unusual sight these days, the handling might not be up there with the French hot hatches , but I'm pretty sure they'd be nailed to their back bumper on a windy road, you'd just be trying a bit harder. Although if you can find one a 1.9 Volcane would be my choice, the 2.0s are fine but the with no cat and stupid low gearing the 1.9 was a little hooligan. 155V6, dc2100k, Ghosty and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc2100k Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, NorfolkNWeigh said: Amazed no one has suggested an R8 Rover, the 216 Gti or 220/420 is pretty quick and the 2 doo versions are an unusual sight these days, the handling might not be up there with the French hot hatches , but I'm pretty sure they'd be nailed to their back bumper on a windy road, you'd just be trying a bit harder. <engage giffer> Quite. French hatches...comprende vous the question?? Brexit means Brexit, eh. <disengage giffer> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Handling on the R8 is vastly improved by doing just two things: replace all the suspension bushes with new (no need for polybush, oem is fine), and fit slightly shorter springs. I never found the handling limits on mine after this, the car was more capable than I was confident. Sadly gone for scrap now, it was a great car while I had it, just a bit too competent and reliable for me. egg and dc2100k 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc2100k Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Gold Leaf colour scheme. How eh... tasteful. Kowalski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Vince70 said: I might be biased but I would look at an E36 318ti hatch as it’s basically a rear wheel drive hot (warm) hatch These are a real hoot to drive and quite nippy being 140bhp and it has torsion bar rear suspension unlike the the normal Z axle E36 So has a more 80s feel to it. You should get a nice one for under 2grand and the prices are on the up so you can’t lose. You can’t have mine though as it took me ages to find a real nice rust free one and could never part with it. Semi training arms on the rear. Like an E30 3-series or E36 Z3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes oui si Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, J-T said: Ah right yes, so this excellent out of the packet car only needed a hot cam, different suspension and , remap and exhaust... I didn't call it 'excellent out of the packet' - wind your neck in. spartacus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I'll stand by what I said about the mk 3 Golf. Even when I was test driving sheds in the buying process I was still amazed at how they got such a bad rep. Not to say that there are many more choices here that would be equal or better. How did that Rover end up for scrap Vulgalour, didn't it only need an engine mount or something when chompy had it?:-( yes oui si 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon.k Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I’ve had a 306 gti, a 205 Xs and a mk1 mx5 for exactly this purpose and the mx5 with coilovers and an lsd wins absolutely hands down. They’re just so much fun to thrash around and find the limits, and there’s a reason the motoring press go on and on about them. dome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Thinking a little more left field and if you want bonus shite points how does a Hyundai Accent MVi sit with you? Unusual, reliable, a bit plain jane in looks, not ridiculously fast though certainly competent, and aren’t that expensive to buy as nobody really wants a 1990s High n dry. Or a Charade GTti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 How about an MR2? A good MK1 is probably out of budget if you're looking at things around £2k though A MK2 is a bit more of a cruiser and they rust. A MK3 whilst on paper not that exciting is a very rewarding car to drive, even in standard 140bhp guise. You'd maybe get a converted 2zz one for that kind of money but they're a bit more mental. The "VTEC yo" doesn't kick in til around 5500 in 2nd and if you keep your toe in you'll be doing silly speeds in no time. If you've got more to spend I'll have my locost up for sale before the summer.... Scruffy Bodger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 P.S. one of the worst cars I've ever driven was a MK3 Golf GTi owned by @Fraz on here. I had to drive it back from a collection mission to proxima centauri, or so it felt at the time. Having came from MK2 Gtis and 205 GTis which I road rallied back in the day it came as massive disappointment. Gutless, lardy and not fit to carry the GTi badge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 In the true forum style of recommending that you've owned, my Scimitar se6 was a rewarding thing to hoon. Not particularly quick in the grand scheme of things but involving enough to be rewarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I'm going to vote for the MGF/TF here, or an MR2 mk2. Both available at Shite prices and both a bucket of fun to drive. If you can spare more money, Fiat X1/9 or -looks over to left field just in time - MG Maestro 2.0 or Turbo. Your chances of a Turbo are pretty damn slim but the 2.0 I had some years ago was splendid: docile around town but an animal once I got to the local lanes. Bonus points for the pure giffer looks of it too. But the other three, all mid-engined, will do exactly what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorpunk Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Mk3 MR2 might not be pretty but they’re massive fun, reliable and cheap. An early 2.0 924 is great fun if you can find one that isn’t shagged or priced stupidly. dome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, dome said: In the true forum style of recommending that you've owned, my Scimitar se6 was a rewarding thing to hoon. Not particularly quick in the grand scheme of things but involving enough to be rewarding. +1 for a Scimitar. The SE6/6a can still be had for cheaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, spartacus said: How did that Rover end up for scrap Vulgalour, didn't it only need an engine mount or something when chompy had it?:-( Primarily, it shat its gearbox (we knew it was tired, and the R65 isn't the most robust unit) and Chompy had to get recovered and then, well, you know how it is with old cars that aren't worth much. spartacus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 How about a 1972 Cadillac Coupe De Ville? (I’m doing my best for you Eddy) Matty, Justin Case, danthecapriman and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Puma 1.7 with front brace or mx5 MK1 or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovorsche Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, J-T said: Pug 306 GTI/Rallye is a good shout, they've never gone daft in price and are quick. I had one when I was 19 and thought I was a driving god, right up until I exited a roundabout backwards when demonstrating my prowess at lift off oversteer. I then did it again 3 months later and twatted a kerb and bent the rear beam. Don't get me wrong, I was utterly shit but they're probably one of the last fwd cars made where they are snappy to the point that you can get into trouble. Clio 182s etc seemed more forgiving. Ah right yes, so this excellent out of the packet car only needed a hot cam, different suspension and , remap and exhaust...that's why they were slated. They were fine driven in isolation, but drive a competitor and they were crap, just a vaguely sporty trim level. I imagine the 16v was a lot better but I only ever drove an 8v and that's all there was at launch. My favourite ever car of this description was the AE82 Corolla Twincam, I had 3 of them. They were quick in their day, although not really now, but you could extract every inch of performance out of them without being really daft, they were so revvy. I can still hear the exhaust note now. But your chances of finding one at all now are virtually nil and if you do it'll be a spammed up shitbox in Bradford with a 6 grand price tag that it is not worth. This was my last one. The four door version was a bit of a laugh, had several as hire cars, this almost certainly isnt one of them. Collection thread would make a good read though https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bakkies/midrand/39-88-toyota-corolla-gli-twincam-16v/1006792834160911068064809 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, snagglepuss said: Puma 1.7 with front brace or mx5 MK1 or 2 +1 on a 1.7 Puma. Criminally underrated cars, rock bottom money at the moment and just as capable as a daily as they are as a track slag. face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Best B-road blaster I've ever had was my Suzuki Cappuccino. Mine had a freer flowing exhaust than stock and had been remapped to around 90bhp we reckon. It sounded like a cross between a bike and an 80s F1 car when you had your foot down. It weighed about as much as a postage stamp and seemed to steer through telepathy. Despite being tiny I found it to be an astonishingly practical daily runaround too, managed 45mpg all day long too. Oh, and the three way roof (hard top, Targa or full convertible) is bloody genius. Takes about 30 seconds to drop or raise with a bit of practice). Mechanically it's typically 90s Japanese...so basically aside from servicing it you're not likely going to need to open the bonnet. They are getting expensive though, and do like to rust. The Cappuccino is the only problem I have with the MX-5...It makes the Mazda feel unnecessarily bulky... it's a very similar car, just distilled down into something about 2/3rds the size. I seriously miss this little car. Skizzer, dome, gm and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-T Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 hours ago, yes oui si said: I didn't call it 'excellent out of the packet' - wind your neck in. No, you just said you couldn’t understand how much criticism they attract before reeling off a list of modifications that yours had. Drive a stock 8v - they’re shit. My dad’s mate was selling a silver one that I had a good drive in when I wanted to ‘upgrade’ from my first Corolla. I remember being genuinely shocked at how much the Golf was was outgunned in every way other than comfort by a car 9 years older than it. That’s how I ended up with the 306 GTI. Which was better by every measure. ANYWAY E36 328i can still be had cheap if it’s not a sport. Also Alfa 145 Cloverleaf but they’re an acquired taste (I love em!) and most are rotten underneath now, sills & floorpans go. Both would be good for the odd blast. Fiat Coupe Turbos still cheap for the performance but it’s a brave choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, LoftyvRS said: Something practical and underrated maybe? What about a Nissan Primera P10 eGT? Sublime handling, good performance and practical to boot! P10s very rarely come up for sale and you'd be lucky to see one for £2k. Maybe a P11, but they all rust. Almera GTi might be easier to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc2100k Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Proton Satria Gti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Do you not reckon he'd struggle to find one? Ford sold more Edsel's than that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc2100k Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 There used to be plenty about. I think they are popular with the road rally crew so maybe all been snapped up. Apparently Lancer Evo suspension bolts straight on and the 1.8 Mitsubishi engine is good for 170bhp with some head work and cams so not a bad motor really. Added cool points for fake rivets and being utterly shite, Matty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 There is a guy who autotests one with Evo suspension - he is really competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 You do see them from time to time on eBay etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiperCub Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Agree with most of the above but would add Toyota Celica. Cheap, reliable, strong cars, even better if you can snag the 190bhp version. dome, Scruffy Bodger and Stevebrookman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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