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12 minutes ago, JeeExEll said:

Cortina Mk2 on a C-plate, so registered before the end of Dec 1965.  The Mk2 wasn't officially launched till late October 1966, near the end of 'D-reg' plates.  At that time the reg suffix ran from Jan to December.

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Aye Sheff, have always been looking out for the 70 Fords which have one year out of sync.  Just a Ford geekery thing.

Out of all the pics there's never been a Mk3 Cortina on a 'H', or a 'S'.  Or a genuine pre-production Mk2 Escort on a 'M', and there must have been loads of those.  Mk2 Capris on a 'L'?  Also, Consul/ Granada Mk1s on a 'J'?

Maybe more pics will appear in years to come.

 

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There absolutely must have been Mk3s on 'H' plates, the Mk3 was introduced late summer 1970 just after when the J-plates were new so what did they do before then? Possibly even some 1969 test cars on G-plates. But in many years of looking at old photos I've never seen even one. Something may turn up yet.

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On 1/20/2020 at 10:09 AM, bunglebus said:

As an Essex boy I've seen a few odd Fords around over the years, including a saloon version of the Fiesta that we never got over here

 

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Ford Ikon, the first Ford ‘made in India for Indians’, circa 1999/2000. The launch model of the Ford India division, which Ford had high hopes of.

IIRC The Ka + and Ecosport we get are assembled there, although I did see a report that Ford will be pulling the plug on the operation soon, they never got close to challenging Maruti-Suzuki or Tata.

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18 hours ago, JeeExEll said:

There absolutely must have been Mk3s on 'H' plates, the Mk3 was introduced late summer 1970 just after when the J-plates were new so what did they do before then? Possibly even some 1969 test cars on G-plates. But in many years of looking at old photos I've never seen even one. Something may turn up yet.

Maybe one for the late reg thread - by 1970 registrations ran sept-aug so I guess you couldn't buy an H plate MKIII?

Wiki says; The Cortina went on sale on 23 October 1970

So I would guess Ford did not use undisguised MKIIIs prior to launch


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Same with MK2 Escorts earlier than a N, they changed the floor etc in the MK1 in about 1973, I would think all the testing (on the road anyway) was done using updated MK1s so the public didn't see the MK2 before its official launch

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Quite a few J reg mk2's, but as said never any mk3's sold to public with H reg.

Same as no P reg mk4's (there is/was a taunus convertible) as they went on sale in Europe in may.

Also half doz T reg mk5's (June 79) possible pre- production cars were given to production team of the professionals for filming as the forthcoming series would debut over Christmas thus more free primetime advertising of the latest model.

The Ghia EST is thought to have been a mk4 with Mk5 bits ( int,bumpers,frt wings,grille etc)  as in various shots there are anomilys Inc no lower tape strips on the doors being one.

The mk2 escort like the mk2/3  Capri,mk4/5 Corrina,mk2 Granada were reskins so didn't need mechanical test mules as these could be carried out on current models without much chance of discovery.

MK1 fiesta running gear was I believe fitted in fiat 128's for road testing  as the German Taunus 12/15M (fords only other fwd vehicle) were deemed to big (probably to old too) for a comparison to the competitions products.

TheMK3  escort cvh engs & rear suspension were tested in some stretched MK1 fiestas in northern Europe, likewise 6 mk5' &  TC3 Taunus were used with Sierra running gear some with altered noses to test cooling system efficiency again in mainly northern Europe.

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I believe Ford hired out the fleet of Mk1 Cortinas to use in Carry On Cabby.

Supposedly Ford used a Fiat 127 or 128 based mule to convince Henry Ford II that fwd was the way ahead, as until then he has dead against this layout.

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On 1/25/2020 at 1:38 PM, Kringle said:

@Vince70 a year? I thought it was last owned on here back in 2016/17? By previous member @Station who I tried tracking by means of the next owner of his RX7 who contacted me to say he was planning to move to Canada. The mot ran out last Feb.

But I'll search again!

Just to wrap this up, the Daimler Pulse was bought by a girl from Zimbabwe and the car apparently has gone there. Ho hum.

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Back in early 2003, BMW built around 500 preproduction E60 5 Series which were lent out to various organisations around Munich in order to perform, ahem, robustness testing.  The cars were only mildly camouflaged and I used to see them frequently as I lived in Munich at the time and it certainly allowed me to acclimatise to the styling before it was launched. Anyway, one of them made it into the national press as the driver lost control of it whilst making progress on a country road in wet weather, It went through a crash barrier, demolished a brick barn and came to rest in a ditch. When the local fire brigade appeared they discovered 2 things. Firstly, the driver didn‘t need to be cut out of the wreck as he was standing next to it, relatively unscathed. Secondly, he was one of their mates from the local fire brigade. There used to be pictures of the crash on the interweb, but I‘ve not been able to find them.

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