Project P38 with added Jag..

[Cooper1]

On 11/24/2020 at 9:08 PM, N Dentressangle said:

Agreed.

I have a soft spot for the P38, although I don't have the time / ingenuity to keep one on the road like you do so I'll stick to my Classic for the mo 😉

Ha it has tested my sense of humour sometimes, but the smiles outweigh the frowns in most cases.. 😁 

I'd love a RRC but i'd only be able to have one or the other,  so it seems i'll be sticking to the P38 for now

[Broadsword]

Thanks for the info on window adjustment. I had no idea you could do that. I think mine needs doing too!

[Cooper1]

On the 19th "me barfday" I was surprised  with a set of these!

I should note my old front plate flew off into a hedgerow on the A49 some weeks ago, and my old man decided to make some "custom" ones to surprise me! 

And they sure are unique!!😝

And yes she does leave little black dots everywhere she parks!!!

 

Fitted. 

 

I'll get a better shot of the front plate later! 

 

Unique little touches like this make a car your own! 

 

 

[Cooper1]

More maintenance for the old Bus this time in the shape of an Oil change.. 

in minus 6 degree weather! 

My pecker has officially fucked right off, I hope to see it middle of next week!  

Maybe... 

 

Anyway

The last service was 4000mi ago and I foolishly used an expensive 10w60 Castrol stuff, which caused a top end rattle when hot.. 

This time i'm going down the semi syn 10w40 route and changing it more frequently 

The Oil of choice!

 

draining the old stuff couldn't be simpler, I put the EAS on extended mode and just crawl underneath with a 16mm wrench. 

 

If you're anything like me you'll misplace this plug and spend 1/2 the day looking for it!!

in my case I had left it on the front just by the rad and it fell orf!

Luckily it landed on my wooden board i use to crawl on!

Old filter off, 

And in this pic you'll note the patented "LR RUST PROTECTION" or more simply an oil seal leak..  

There is nothing better in life than parking your old Range Rover on your mates brand new concrete driveway!  lol 

New filter primed. 

And spun on. 

Oil plug back in. 

New oil in and on my trip to work I did note the engine sounded better, with the 10w60 Edge it had a slight top end rattle even when hot, which I didn't like..

With the new 10w40 it is back to being near silent!

Very happy with that, a right result..

well worth the freezing..

 

[Cooper1]

A few days ago I removed the upper windscreen trim to check the bond between the screen and the car, unfortunately I lost what little patience I had at the time and might of broke all but 1 of the original clips..

I did managed to get it loosely back on but it looked horrible and flapped around like sluts fanny.
 

as you can see here it is quite loose!  

 

 

New clips were either £9.99 for 10 or £3.99 each at an OE supplier, as you can imagine I went for the cheaper option which so happened to be a chap on ebay.. 

The trim just slides off. 

New clips just slide on.. 

 

The old trim piece stuck back on, just resting the trim on the clips and pushing down was good enough to get a nice click  

 

Its the little things

 

[Cooper1]

I've been looking through the receipts from June 2017 when I purchased her to the current day and thought I'd share what it looks like to pull a rather neglected example back into a reliable work horse 

1- Dunlop Air compressor to replace burnt out original
2- 4x Terrafirma Shock Absorbers -
3- Moog complete Steering track rod
4- Moog Complete Drag link
5- 2x replacement rear calipers + Mintex Pads + Rear discs "britpart"
6-2x Front brake pads "mintex"
7- Drop Link arms
8- Poly D bushes for anti roll bar.
9- Engine Oil - 10w40 + Mann filter - 2017
10- Terrafirma Steering Damper
11- Heater core O rings - Probably set a record for replacement, only took 25mins
12- BeCM rebuilt after DSP amp ruined it!
13- Driver side door latch rebuilt by MartyUK - still yet to be fitted!
14- 2nd hand drivers door lock + Keys and key barrel used to replace the door handle when I broke it!
15- Drivers door latch sourced and fitted "before Martin rebuilt my original;"
16- Britpart Radiator sourced to replace original after an idiot "me" slammed the bonnet on a tool and broke the spigot off the corner!!!
17- Complete coolant flush "2017"
18- Engine oil changed for 5w40 Mobil 1 with Bosch filter 2019
19- Engine Oil changed again for Mobil 1000 15w40 + Lifter treatment!
20- EAS Valveblock rebuilt with new X8R O-rings
21- Dunlop Compressor shit the bed, so new/refurb OEM Compressor sourced from Mercia Air limited
22- Automatic Gearbox Oil drained and refilled with Millers Millermatic "2019"
23- Automatic Gearbox oil changed for Elf Elfmatic + Filter "2020
24- Transfer Box oil changed "2017"
25 Transfer box oil changed "2020" Dex III Mannol
26- EAS Driver pack replaced
27- Rear axle oil replaced "millers"
28 Headlamp Wipers "britpart"
29 Windscreen wipers "ebay" Aero
30 Windscreen wipers "bosch"
31 Pollen filter set "2017"
32 Janspeed Full Stainless cat back exhaust
33 Exhaust Lambda Sensor...
34 Bosch Air Filter fitted to replace useless K&n unit!
35 Air intake Trunk replaced.
36 New Hankook Mf31-1000 Battery fitted
37 Viscous Fan replaced due to original Missing a few blades!!!
38 Alternator replaced with OE unit due to bearing howl..
39 All front accessory Idlers replaced with OEM items to stop the horrendous howl from the engine..
40 - Genuine Delco Tensioner - Defective!
41 Allmakes Belt tensioner "much better"
42 IACV replaced with OEM unit to fix idle issues
43 Throttle Position sensor replaced.
44- Castrol Edge 10w60 + Bosch filter
45- Tailgate struts replaced
46- Bonnet Struts replaced 
47- Powersteering fluid flush "millers"
48- Engine oil + filter - Comma 10w40 & Mann W930/20 filter - 130,000 mls 

49- OSF EAS Height Sensor to rectify an intermittent EAS fault.  

 

In light of the reputation the P38 has what has to be considered is the neglect she received from the previous owner, when taken in to account she hasn't been too bad... 

 

Labour has just been my time, and the overall parts cost is around £1100 which isn't too bad! 

If I had an independent do the work the overall parts/labour cost would probably be near £5000 or more! 

I've seen a good few cars online that claim to have obscene amounts of money spent to bring them around, one particular example had around £30,000 spent on parts which was ridiculous.. 

Instead of rebuilding the components it had straight replacements which did make me laugh! 😁

Thats one thing to remember on the P38 almost all of the car is rebuildable the big mistake often made is people just replacing everything and crossing fingers!  

Also to be considered is the uniqueness of the P38, it isn't necessarily more complex than other cars, it is just different and that has to be taken in to account when thinking about getting one, don't consider it more complex, just different!  

 

Why am I writing this? 

 

Well the P38 has received a fair bit of stick over the years for being the most unreliable RR ever made usually it is RRC or weirdly L322 owners that say one  needs specialist knowledge to even go anywhere near one with a spanner, this simply isn't the case, it's just a car that has to be understood before ripping into it! 

 

The L322 and beyond while they are good cars to drive - Rust - Electrical - Engine - Gearbox - are rife. 

RRC's are the pinnacle being the original unit! 

I would love one but they're out of my price range now!

 

The P38 is also almost always forgotten I notice websites and magazines alike go from the Classic straight to the L322 without a hint of the P38! it is a shame.. 

 

But when you think about it the P38 is the only Range Rover to share RRC componentry. 

 

Recently however the P38 seems to have got a small spotlight shone on it with prices for the good ones seeming to creep up

The L322 price crash seems to be pushing the P38 skyward! 

 

Anyway.. 

 

Rant over! LOL 

 

H

[OM646]

7 hours ago, Cooper1 said:

Well the P38 has received a fair bit of stick over the years for being the most unreliable RR ever made

Always thought that was the L322.

The P38 is probably my favorite RR and this topic made me finally pick a favorite color, your example looks beautiful, one of the first topics i followed when i joined AS

Just a minor question. Is the rear badging in the lower tailgate (LR logo and VOGUE V8) supposed to be that far up? Most P38's I see have it a bit lower, like this

[Cooper1]

18 hours ago, OM646 said:

Always thought that was the L322.

The P38 is probably my favorite RR and this topic made me finally pick a favorite color, your example looks beautiful, one of the first topics i followed when i joined AS

Just a minor question. Is the rear badging in the lower tailgate (LR logo and VOGUE V8) supposed to be that far up? Most P38's I see have it a bit lower, like this

 

Thanks mate! 

 

Appreciated she is a labour of love and looks ok at 10 paces lol  

 

Regarding the badging on P38's the Chrome Vogue Badge or Vogue SE Gel badge  is usually located adjacent to the tailgate button, however models fitted with light guards usually have the Vogue/se badges lower down due to the bracketry taking up valuable space!  

 models like these below tend to have them below the button also I note all the older models have them below the tailgate button!

4.6 HSE 

2.5 DHSE  

4.0 

!   

 

Example. 

 

Vs mine. 

Placement of the LR badge on the other side is another point of contention people tend to all have an opinion of where it is in the "right" place mine is quite high up much like the other Vogue above!  

To be fair I've never seen a P38 with the badges in the same place, the one below has it in the centre 🤪  

 

 

This other Vogue has it in the same place as mine. 

 

Weird eh!!! 

 

If I recall correctly they were placed on by fellow humans, so they'll never all be in the same place 😝  

 

The "V8" badge on mine is an add on from Ebay not factory!  

 

HTH!

 

 

[OM646]

Cheers mate!

The reason why i thought the LR badge was in an odd place might have been mostly because almost all P38's here are 2.5 DSE's and I don't think i've ever seen any made after 1998 on the road. This was roughly the time when 4x4's started to be fully taxed here

All the progress in your car makes me want to go into LR ownership one day but it would have to be something diseasel powered as petrol here is over 1,5€/ltr.

Who knows what will come next after i finish the Aldi though

[Cooper1]

1 minute ago, OM646 said:

Cheers mate!

The reason why i thought the LR badge was in an odd place might have been mostly because almost all P38's here are 2.5 DSE's and I don't think i've ever seen any made after 1998 on the road. This was roughly the time when 4x4's started to be fully taxed here

All the progress in your car makes me want to go into LR ownership one day but it would have to be something diseasel powered as petrol here is over 1,5€/ltr.

Who knows what will come next after i finish the Aldi though

To be fair P38's are a very rare sight here too and the majority that I see are diesels, only 167k were made between 1994 and 2001 that's worldwide so they were rare to start with to be fair!! 

Petrol over here when I bought her in 2017 was £1.40 per litre which is roughly 1.6€/ltr which is a drain on the old wallet! 

Luckily she has a Multipoint LPG system which cuts costs in half at around 55ppl which is 0.62€ which is easier to manage! 

 

Don't know if you have LPG around your area? it defo helps. 

 

On Petrol mine will do 22mpg if i'm nice to it, and that drops off to mid teens if i'm hooning and even single figures if really pressing on!!!  

On LPG it averages around 16mpg but is half the cost sometimes more than petrol so equiv of late 30s to the gallon! range is around 245mi  from a 84ltr LPG tank which has 75ltr useable capacity which is around 16mpg however if I'm pushing her it can drop to 185 miles  11 mpg  and if i'm in full general lee mode that can drop down to 8mpg! 

The upside to the diesels is they'll almost always be above 20 to the gallon  

 

They're lovely things to drive, I can't think of anything to replace it to be fair!!

 

[bezzabsa]

must admit the one thing thats been bugging me...

How TF did you manage to insure it at 17??????????????

PMSL

[Cooper1]

1 minute ago, bezzabsa said:

must admit the one thing thats been bugging me...

How TF did you manage to insure it at 17??????????????

PMSL

It was £1100 per year when I bought it, the same year Saxo was around £300 more per year!!

A golf MK4 2.0 TDI auto was £2300 

At the age I am now 20 it is £400 per year with no claims and all that jazz the company I use is Elephant insurance which is a part of Admiral IIRC they gave and still do give a good deal! 

To be fair i'm surprised at the price.. 

In my mind it must be something to do with it being a 2.2ton 4x4 which you're much less likely to hoon compared to a hatchback!! 

The incredible theft protection is another, it can stop itself being started with its own key  very hard to steal

I could leave it in Liverpool city centre with the windows down and the keys in it, and so long as I let the EKA code roll over too many times it won't start  

So it would stay there, unless they trailered it away!

[OM646]

4 hours ago, Cooper1 said:

Don't know if you have LPG around your area? it defo helps. 

We do have LPG here, basically the only way of being able to run things like T5 Volvos economically. A litre of LPG is like less than half of a litre of diesel!

(And that's another thing that makes me want to try a pez powered car as I've only had diesels to this day!)

 

I might still have portuguese off road magazines from when P38s and D1s were new. That probably influenced me a lot in liking P38s so much

(Also, i had no clue such a thing as a 2.5 DHSE existed)

 

[Cooper1]

13 hours ago, OM646 said:

We do have LPG here, basically the only way of being able to run things like T5 Volvos economically. A litre of LPG is like less than half of a litre of diesel!

(And that's another thing that makes me want to try a pez powered car as I've only had diesels to this day!)

 

I might still have portuguese off road magazines from when P38s and D1s were new. That probably influenced me a lot in liking P38s so much

(Also, i had no clue such a thing as a 2.5 DHSE existed)

 

Yep it was released in late 1999 as a top spec Diesel as originally all you could get as a diesel owner was the DT and DSE which unless it was spec'd to the hilt with things off the options list you got quite a spartan motor.. 

It had everything standard that the 4.6 HSE would have which would of included 

Heated seats 

Premium sound system Harman Kardon 

Electric seats 

Sunroof 

Dual zone climate control 

18" wheels 

cruise control 

etc 

If I was looking for a diesel the DHSE would be on the top of my list but a wise P38 owner once said, condition is more important than spec  

What amazed me though, is when new even a completely basic 1995  DT with cloth and no Air-con would retail at £37,995 new which is £78,630 🤪  

Amazing what was considered luxury 25+years ago compared to today!! 

If you offered a RR with no Aircon/sunroof and cloth seats for £78k they'd throw the book at you!  

[OM646]

In fact, here we only had the DT for the 1st year. The importer misjudged the market badly, P38 diesels sold really well and they immediately brought the DSE, then in 1998 sales fell off a cliff for tax reasons. 

 

But even our DTs have the digital climate control 

[Cooper1]

4 hours ago, OM646 said:

In fact, here we only had the DT for the 1st year. The importer misjudged the market badly, P38 diesels sold really well and they immediately brought the DSE, then in 1998 sales fell off a cliff for tax reasons. 

 

But even our DTs have the digital climate control 

Thats interesting, and slightly depressing that you all got cut short because of TAX!!!

 

You could spec the P38 to the hilt even the DT like you say could have digital HEVAC 

 

 

This was the base!!

 

Urgh

[OM646]

3 hours ago, Cooper1 said:

Thats interesting, and slightly depressing that you all got cut short because of TAX!!!

 

Actually I was wrong, it was in 2001.

4x4's used to pay 20% of the new car tax you'd get on a standard passenger car. This made japanese off-roaders and LR's very attractive to buy, and therefore popular.

In 2001, the government increased it to 100%, causing price increases of up to 20.000€. Off-roader sales completely fell off a cliff. A lot of people couldn't afford the RR anymore, and those who bought the japanese ones switched to the (still lightly taxed) pickups.

3 hours ago, Cooper1 said:

You could spec the P38 to the hilt even the DT like you say could have digital HEVAC 

 

 

This was the base!!

OOF. Deffo very odd to see this in the cabin of a P38

[bezzabsa]

On 11/25/2020 at 12:49 AM, Cooper1 said:

Ha it has tested my sense of humour sometimes, but the smiles outweigh the frowns in most cases.. 😁 

I'd love a RRC but i'd only be able to have one or the other,  so it seems i'll be sticking to the P38 for now

here you go, quick wipe over and she's peachy

RR Classic...........................sort of

[Cooper1]

10 hours ago, bezzabsa said:

here you go, quick wipe over and she's peachy

RR Classic...........................sort of

I'd be tempted for £195 certainly not over a grand!! 🤣 

 

not too long ago you couldn't give ones in that nick away, now even the scrappers are fetching insane money!!  

[OM646]

11 hours ago, bezzabsa said:

here you go, quick wipe over and she's peachy

RR Classic...........................sort of

after seeing this ad, i'm now seriously* considering scooping up every single fooked RRC in my neck of the woods and shipping it to the UK. Hey, no rust!

[bezzabsa]

I sold my Last RR Classic, a softdash 300Tdi Vogue SE for £3250..At the time I thought I'd made out like a Bandit....

15 years later and for a Tidy one you can stick another zero on the end...

Story of owning it..

Brought a Zafira diesel for £3000 (4 years old)..8 months later wanted back into 4x4 ownreship, so swapped zaffy for a 1986 Land rover 110 Station wagon with the 2.5 J19 turbo engine (dog slow..)6 months after, guy on 4X4 site i used wanted a 110 to Tdi...so deal was struck where I swapped the 1986 110 for a 1995 RR Classic Softdash 300Tdi  

Roughly 9 months later air suspension died, and a guy from Sheffield who already owned a RR LSE fitted with a TVR 5.0 litre, offered me the £3250..and He collected too..

Incidently towing it back to Sheffield he burned through 1 Full LPG Tank (approx 75litres) AND full tank of Tesco's Finest Dino juice LOL..IIRC less than 5mpg at 70+Mpg in LSE with a hooooge Ifor williams trailer With my old RR on that !!!!

as of last year he still owned my old one, and was rebuilding the LSE

[Cooper1]

22 hours ago, bezzabsa said:

I sold my Last RR Classic, a softdash 300Tdi Vogue SE for £3250..At the time I thought I'd made out like a Bandit....

15 years later and for a Tidy one you can stick another zero on the end...

Story of owning it..

Brought a Zafira diesel for £3000 (4 years old)..8 months later wanted back into 4x4 ownreship, so swapped zaffy for a 1986 Land rover 110 Station wagon with the 2.5 J19 turbo engine (dog slow..)6 months after, guy on 4X4 site i used wanted a 110 to Tdi...so deal was struck where I swapped the 1986 110 for a 1995 RR Classic Softdash 300Tdi  

Roughly 9 months later air suspension died, and a guy from Sheffield who already owned a RR LSE fitted with a TVR 5.0 litre, offered me the £3250..and He collected too..

Incidently towing it back to Sheffield he burned through 1 Full LPG Tank (approx 75litres) AND full tank of Tesco's Finest Dino juice LOL..IIRC less than 5mpg at 70+Mpg in LSE with a hooooge Ifor williams trailer With my old RR on that !!!!

as of last year he still owned my old one, and was rebuilding the LSE

 

I wouldn't mind a a softdash but they're way out of my price range, being the preferred classic, the best interior fitted to the RRC was the softdash.. 

 

The prices of these RRC are amazing my dad recalls how years ago you could hardly give them away especially the old 2dr! 

Now they fetch insane money! 🤪 

My P38 burnt through 75litres in 110mls towing a trailer with a mk2 shogun on it 🤣 

 

without any extra load she goes though 75litres of LP in 230mi which isn't that bad!

 

 

[OM646]

1 hour ago, Cooper1 said:

My P38 burnt through 75litres in 110mls towing a trailer with a mk2 shogun on it 🤣 

 

42l/100km, holy moly!

[Cooper1]

8 minutes ago, OM646 said:

42l/100km, holy moly!

Thats on LPG and I was hooning slightly

[bezzabsa]

my 2 first RR's were a 1975 and 1971, got the 75 went pa in law died and we inherited it, the other i had in a deal with a sierra I think...both would be £5k minimum even wrecks are fetching that!!

[Cooper1]

Window "seal" more so a wind deflector thingy.. 

It has been flopping down when I open the door for a good while, I had some spare time and some superglue to sort it out

It is glued to the car and not held on over a seam much like a normal door seal..

A good dose of this stuff helped to keep it in the right place.

Being that I didn't/don't have the patience to stand there to hold it while the glue cured, I employed some old tissue I had lying around. 

And done... 

It doesn't look that different from the before, however it is now held fast and won't sag  

 

Good stuff supergloo - smells good too. 😬🤣👌

 

 

 

[Cooper1]

Update time. 

 

The old P38 has an issue was water finding its way into the cabin and wetting the corners of the headliner.. 

Sunroof has done this before around a year ago, and some silicone under the seal cured it.  

 

This is what greeted me when I peeled off the seal. 

 

Turns out the entire rear part of the frame is separated from the glass. 😅 so that isn't going to work the absolute fiddle fuck/

Some silicone to the rescue.. 

 

The seal was then banged on and taped while the sillycone set.. 

 

 

The sunroof looks oddly like the unit fitted to the Rover 800. 🤔 

 

A name change has taken place, from this day forth she shall be known as "silicone Sally"

 

 

 

 

[Cooper1]

After a few weeks of monsoon type weather the roof is dry as a bone. 

Well happy with that..  

Next little upgrade is the headlights I've never replaced the bulbs and recently i've noticed issues. 

The primary issue is the O/S bulb seems to be moving in the housing, every time she hits a pothole the light will jiggle. 🤪 

So a few quid later I have these.. 

They have quite good reviews especially among P38 owners, so I gave them a try.. 

 

The N/S bulb on the P38 takes literally 30secs to change 

The O/S however was a different story mostly down to the fact the battery limits the access, and a fair amount of dexterity is required to get the bulb in and re attach the spring clip.. 

The space!

Once I removed the rubber boot I discovered the old bulb had been held in with Blu-tak 🤔 

The reason for this was the tang which the spring clip clips in to had been bent out of shape, either by a lack of patience or access...  

Arrows on this pic show the issue. 

Green arrow repesents where the mangled tang is, and the other arrow shows where the tang should be!! 

 

 

Luckily I have some long picks and screwdrivers, so carefully it was bent back in to shape and the bulb refitted...  

The spring clip was left in the rubber boot  

 

Some silicone grease applied around the lip and it slipped back on 🤗 😏 

 

 

And a parting pic of her offroading  

climbing Curbs is the closest thing most RR's get going offroad

 

 

 

MOT is due on the 9th of next month so an inspection was in order.. 

 

Looking underneath i'm amazed these parts were new after 5'ish months on the car, amazing what salt does!! 

 

Oh and I managed to re'sync my keys so now I have central locking......  

 

🤑 

Next week I'm going to replace the shock absorbers, because numpty "me" put on the TF +2 shocks which are 2in longer than standard and as such will cause the bags to come apart if she cross axles or goes on a 2 post lift. 

I've priced up 4x Britpart shocks for £75 which isn't too bad, it'll hopefully improve the ride which is quite stiff with the offroad shocks.. 

 

H

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cooper1]

Probably time for an update..

This time in the shape of a suspension upgrade..

As ya'll know the P38 has the rather infamous EAS which has been known to throw quite a few problems towards otherwise unsuspecting owners..

I myself have had my fair share of EAS faults and now that she is dialled in that regard IE most of the parts are new I can turn my attention to the ride comfort, which was the Air suspensions party piece.

Unfortunately when I replaced the knackered OE shocks with Terrafirma the ride went from bad to Spine through skull on even the slightest of potholes.

Also it would hit a pothole or undulation due to the stiffness of the shocks and bounce which was quite disconcerting and it would force me to slow down which was an irritation it felt like the wheels left the ground..

Also if it hit a succession of potholes it was truly horrific 


After a few months of living with this I decided recently that enough is enough and I went on the line and ordered some Britpart Shocks/

The choices vary greatly there are BOGE which are OE Monroe - Terrafirma - Bilstein and Koni plus a few others most of which promise a firmer ride, which is something i'm very much against hence the reason I went for Oil not gas Britparts.

and at £75 a set it wasn't too bad price wise.

Removal of the old ones is simple just 2 bolts, here are the old units, still firm and removal is a right ballache as trying to compress them under the car is very difficult 

The old units here with barely 1800mi on them! 

I wouldn't recommend them! 

The new oem units which even though they're "BRITPART" the construction and overall finish is better than the OEM BOGE units, I was surprised to see that to be honest..

After fitting them I was expecting to still have a harsh ride, but I was pleasantly surprised to find it completely transformed!

Its gone from juddery speedboat to luxury cruise ship

On my way to work there is a stretch of road which used to play havoc with the suspension it would bounce and crash like you wouldn't believe, it would also be very skittish..

On the same piece of road with the new shocks every little bump is soaked up, and it jellies through the bumps instead of crashing, handling is superb now the shocks are back to how they should be the steering is transformed, the road is a national limit and before I'd struggle to average 40mph now she sits happily at 60+ without giving the faintest complaint..

Very happy..

Yesterday was also her MOT and i'm pleased to report she flew through with only one advisory, that being an "oil leak" standard fit on a P38

Only 5k between MOT's! 

Oh and I've not really heard the exhaust from outside with someone else driving, when the tester took her up the road for the tapley meter brake test he gave her some beans, and it sounded incredible very deep bass growl. 😂 

 

 

 

 

[Cooper1]

Nothing much to report as she is running quite well at the moment I've been using it occasionally for work and putting some good miles on it

'tis still very good fun to drive

especially since i've been running around in a 1.6 auto civic for a while as I don't really want to pile the miles on the P38.

However to be fair the difference between them means I can't justify using the Civic anymore, its just so bad and as they say life is too short 

And the insurance is the same as my P38 and fuel consumption isn't anything to crow about either!

some pics here that I took of her earlier today..

needs a good clean and the wing mirrors repainting! 

Almost 4yrs of ownership and its only cost 2 mental breakdowns and a period of me spending my card clean on it a few times but I'd say its worth it? 

 

Hmm.. 

Also I was looking through my pictures and found the one from very early on in my ownership july 2017 .. 

 

 

And 3 1/2 years later and several £££ and an arm + leg later the only difference you can see is the funking tree is slightly bigger   

H