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Given the white room guys are peening an absolute fucking mint on the un-assuming and mundane, it got me thinking.

There's a load of early 2000's cars out there at the moment that are incredibly analogue in nature compared to the stuff of today, surely that's gotta be the next rich vein to tap into, while the price is shite.

I predict a rise in the next 5 years of the MG Z cars and the Rover 2/5/75 cars over the next five years, especially those MG's that escaped the stickers and stereo brigade, and have kept the miles low.

Right now, you can pick up a sub 70k miles dizzler MGZR for instance for less than a bag of sand, surely that's cheap motoring for a good few years to come and possibly an appreciating classic in the making?

Anyone else have any predictions for shite that's going to be stupidly expensive in a few years?

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7 minutes ago, Kiltox said:

Yep, have heard some horror stories. 

There's a fella on Farcebook who is making a name for himself repairing Saxo and 106 bodywork. Some of the jobs he's taken on look like a proper nightmare, but his welding looks very tidy.

Here's the link

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I was talking to someone who claimed to be an expert on future values on classic cars and claimed in the next 3-5 years my base spec carlton diesel would be worth a fortune. If you class 50 quid as a fortune then he is probably correct! GSIs are all being snapped up by those who have an endless pot of disposable cash, yet ya working class just keep plodding on with a fiver in the wallet being a bonus. 

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I've had a couple of modern classics that appreciated, but not to the degree you might expect. Unless they are pristine to start with, you keep in a heated garage and you never use them they'll still cost you money and doing this goes against the grain of me having the car in the first place!

Some I reckon:

Suzuki Ignis Sport
986 Boxster
Z4 3.0i
E60 M5
Puma 1.7
MK3 MR2

 

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Rare variants of the E39 5-Series and "the last true Mercedes", so rare variants of the W140, R129 and W124. The more common version of them will follow eventually.

In general the UK market often seems to be a few years behind the rest of Europe when it comes to vehicle value appreciation for most makes, the big exception being sporty Fords and Vauxhalls. Everything is just dirt cheap here. Look whats generally appreciating elsewhere and you'll quickly get an idea where these models will be heading here value wise.

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You have to look at what was desirable to teenagers back in 2000.i cannot see any 15 year old then lusting after a base spec Carlton.

It would be the better specced models that people either desired or owned but had to sell because of (mostly) marriage/house purchase. Its these models that are being bought for big money.

Of today's cars, the 2012 on Honda Civic Type R seems to be be in the desired/had to sell bracket. 

My 1999 Aprilia RS250 I purchased in late 2018 for £4k. Sold it last week to a dealer who i took it to to sort the carbs. For £5.6k. That's going to be   a £10k bike in just a few short years, but I've no room for it any longer.

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5 minutes ago, Liggle said:

I've had a couple of modern classics that appreciated, but not to the degree you might expect. Unless they are pristine to start with, you keep in a heated garage and you never use them they'll still cost you money and doing this goes against the grain of me having the car in the first place!

Some I reckon:

Suzuki Ignis Sport
986 Boxster
Z4 3.0i
E60 M5
Puma 1.7
MK3 MR2

 

E39 M5 surely - nobody’s going to have the desire /budget / brass bollocks / knowledge to keep an E60 going into old age!  Although maybe that’ll mean there will be 2 left one day 

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1 hour ago, The Old Bloke Next Door said:

Owned this Express since October and had five inquiries asking if its for sale.

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Is that for sale?

19 minutes ago, MorrisItalSLX said:

Anything that has been kept in really good condition and has been looked after. Because regardless of what type of car it is, if someone wants one they are going to want a nice example.

I disagree, a pile of rusty bollocks Escort 1 or split screen VW are worth a few pounds.

And having just sold one, I can confidently predict that mega milage Vel Satis' are a better bet than actual gold.

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All BMW M cars( real ones ) Supercharged Jags, AMG Mercs , Any 2 seat sportscars etc are a given. Along with most hot hatches, especially Fords, Renaults and Peugeots.

I think a lot of the shit we like here will become sort after  as its sheer undesirability means rarity and a need to be different have a positive effect on values. The Citroen C6, Vel Satis, Subaru Svx, P38 , Berlingo . Quentin Wilson Classic Car front cover is just around the corner.

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20 minutes ago, Kiltox said:

E39 M5 surely - nobody’s going to have the desire /budget / brass bollocks / knowledge to keep an E60 going into old age!  Although maybe that’ll mean there will be 2 left one day 

They are already appreciating, the E39 and E60 values have crossed over. Its true they are a liability but as the values free-fall more people will be tempted, other than the S6 V10 (another one to add to the list) how many 5.0+ litre V10 N/A cars are there around that are obtainable? All Halo BMW's seem to appreciate regardless. 

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Who actually buys all these £5,000 white showroom 1995 Ford Escorts 1.4 Pops? I quite like my 2000 Mondeo, it just does the job lovely. I’d not give £5 fucking grand on one though.

 

Or the £80,000 Sierra Cosworths - I mean something like that is practically useless, you can’t drive it anywhere for fear of it getting damaged or putting miles on it, you can’t sit it on the drive because it would get taken away by some nasty men. It wouldn’t be much safer in the garage, chances are someone would be round to frog march you in your dressing gown at knife point in the small hours to open the garage door. Basically all you could do is put it in a heated garage, not tell a soul you’ve got it and toss one off over it every now and again in between whittling about if it’s dropped in value. 

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The market is well over inflated at the mo. They'll all be worth £500-£2k again this time next year. Just sit and wait.

In the meantime does anyone want to buy my 944 for £4k. Guaranteed* investment.

 

Not guaranteed. Not covered by the Financial Services Authority. If you buy a shonky Citroen off me, your investment may go down and not go back up

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Saab 9000s will be the next big thing value rise wise. Mark my words you heard out here first. 
 

At least if I write it someone might pick up on it in the motoring press print it and then the world will believe it and I’ll get offered mega money for mine. 

 In all seriousness, I think once I retire the Saab from daily abuse I’ll probably keep it because one day it might be worth something... there are less and less left!

Mk1 MX5s are on the rise presently too... 

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