Tadhg Tiogar Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, richardmorris said: Yea, well let’s see how well you dressed aged 11 in the early eighties. I definitely didn't have socks and sandals together, that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Tadhg Tiogar said: I definitely didn't have socks and sandals together, that's for sure! Enough now. The statute of limitations has surely run out on crimes against fashion in the 1980s and/or when we were 11. I bloody hope it has, anyway. Nice Visa. Dave_Q, richardmorris, Jimbob McGregor and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 looking at the deteriorated number plates got me thinking, could the reflective backing be removed and replaced? Using a hot air gun the backing can be easily peeled away from the Perspex plate leaving the digits behind. I managed to nab a couple of number plate “blanks” to but unfortunately they’re designed to be used on plates were the Perspex is self adhesive rather than the backing so I need to figure out a way of sticking the back to the front without it looking absolute shit. Any ideas shite fans? Unfortunatley the front plate has cracked so I might have to be a bit more creative in repairing that one. Burnside, 500tops, richardmorris and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Would Pritt Stick or gum be any use? #autoshiterepair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Lankytim said: Any ideas shite fans? I would imagine clear Gorilla Glue is your friend here. It dries completely clear and sticks more or less anything to anything. It’s also waterproof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Lankytim said: looking at the deteriorated number plates got me thinking, could the reflective backing be removed and replaced? Using a hot air gun the backing can be easily peeled away from the Perspex plate leaving the digits behind. I managed to nab a couple of number plate “blanks” to but unfortunately they’re designed to be used on plates were the Perspex is self adhesive rather than the backing so I need to figure out a way of sticking the back to the front without it looking absolute shit. Any ideas shite fans? Unfortunatley the front plate has cracked so I might have to be a bit more creative in repairing that one. It might be easier to use Fancyplates or someone like that to make up a front plate with the correct old fonts etc. Would an eve coat of spray adhesive to the plate and backing work for the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimblob Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Really enjoying this thread, I owned a 1982 Visa Club as my first car, so much fun and character. Good luck getting it going and please let me know if you ever decide to sell!Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Lankytim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'm having trouble getting a coil for this thing at any price.. ECAS can't help (despite them listing them on their website) and a couple of other leads have come to naught. I wonder if these can be converted to a normal points set up with 2cv parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pastry Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Lankytim said: I'm having trouble getting a coil for this thing at any price.. ECAS can't help (despite them listing them on their website) and a couple of other leads have come to naught. I wonder if these can be converted to a normal points set up with 2cv parts? I think that may be possible. If you Google fitting a Visa engine into a 2CV there is some info on ignition systems and I think that is one of the options. Lankytim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkwheel Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'm having trouble getting a coil for this thing at any price.. ECAS can't help (despite them listing them on their website) and a couple of other leads have come to naught. I wonder if these can be converted to a normal points set up with 2cv parts? Is this any help? https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254414799025Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lankytim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkwheel Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I’d also be willing toPut money on the fact these should work as well with your car as I know that some of the Dutch owners of 2CV’s with a type of electronic ignition called ‘123evo’ that use the brown visa coil also use these Honda CDI electronic ignition coils as well. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F352887861489 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lankytim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said: I think that may be possible. If you Google fitting a Visa engine into a 2CV there is some info on ignition systems and I think that is one of the options. I've seen Visa engines fitted to 2CVs and they appear to transplant the whole ignition system across too. I;m not really that familiar with these engines but I think there might be a shaft or drive missing that opens and closes the points on Visa engines. 20 minutes ago, Stinkwheel said: Is this any help?https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254414799025 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I've seen that but I think it's a used item. Worth considering. 14 minutes ago, Stinkwheel said: I’d also be willing to Put money on the fact these should work as well with your car as I know that some of the Dutch owners of 2CV’s with a type of electronic ignition called ‘123’ that use the brown visa coil also use these Honda CDI electronic ignition coils as well.https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F352887861489 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is deffo worth looking in to. I've got a mate who's into bikes, he might even have one kicking about I can borrow, It all depends on the primary coil resistance I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pastry Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 What happens if you use a standard electronic coil and cobble two plug leads onto it? Fumbler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I agree. If it works it would be a brilliant stopgap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkwheel Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 What happens if you use a standard electronic coil and cobble two plug leads onto it?The Citroen twins work on a wasted spark system, I know most normal coils can’t handle this, but a lot of bike coils use the same principle. Other than that. Pass. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkwheel Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This is deffo worth looking in to. I've got a mate who's into bikes, he might even have one kicking about I can borrow, It all depends on the primary coil resistance I think. Do we know what visa coil primary resistance should be? These Honda bike coils come in from anywhere from 0.3 to 1 ohm I believe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Stinkwheel said: Do we know what visa coil primary resistance should be? These Honda bike coils come in from anywhere from 0.3 to 1 ohm I believe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They're 0.7 ohm apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pastry Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Thinking about it the Visa engine doesn't have provision for points or mechanical advance, but it is possible to fit an adaptor to the camshaft to drive a sensor for a system such as "123" where the advance is done electronically. Regarding coils, an electronic coil with a similar resistance to the Visa original isn't likely to damage the system, so must be worth a try. Stinkwheel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500tops Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Lankytim said: I'm having trouble getting a coil for this thing at any price.. ECAS can't help (despite them listing them on their website) and a couple of other leads have come to naught. I wonder if these can be converted to a normal points set up with 2cv parts? I posted this earlier in the thread. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254414799025 Stinkwheel and Lankytim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500tops Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Perhaps someone in Frogland could help hook you up with this... https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.fr%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F143492497670 Stinkwheel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 paging dr @Frogchod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_dyane Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I don’t think the Visa camshaft has provision for fitting the points cam from the 2cv alas. I know someone who will probably have a Visa coli, I’ll PM you his details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_dyane Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Tarquin is a good bet too but he may rather his number sent in a PM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmorris Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, jonathan_dyane said: Tarquin is a good bet too but he may rather his number sent in a PM... Sure I started it as a pm. Oh well. jonathan_dyane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Anyone got a diagram/schematic of the ignition system? Given it's a wasted spark system I don't see there's any reason a bike coil couldn't be used so long as the primary side resistance is in the right ballpark. Wish this wasn't so far away...this is exactly the sort of challenge I used to enjoy...and there weren't many cars I failed to get going! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs6C Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zelandeth said: Anyone got a diagram/schematic of the ignition system? Given it's a wasted spark system I don't see there's any reason a bike coil couldn't be used so long as the primary side resistance is in the right ballpark. Wish this wasn't so far away...this is exactly the sort of challenge I used to enjoy...and there weren't many cars I failed to get going! Have a scootle through the Technical section of the Citroen Visa Forum and see what you can find...https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/visaforum/technical-data-f27/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_dyane Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This explains the system well: http://www.citronpaper.it/VISAdepliant/cartelle/197_ visa accelint/197_visaccelint.htm Asimo and Mrs6C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I've rung up my usual obscure parts provider but they can't get the coils anymore. The father in law of a lad I used to work with had a rotten Visa in his back garden. I'm trying to contact him to see what CC it is and whether it can be plundered for parts. Stinkwheel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkwheel Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I've rung up my usual obscure parts provider but they can't get the coils anymore. The father in law of a lad I used to work with had a rotten Visa in his back garden. I'm trying to contact him to see what CC it is and whether it can be plundered for parts.If it turns out to be the 4cyl variety and not what Lankytim is after, I’d be interested to know if it is available for parts plundering. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Stinkwheel said: If it turns out to be the 4cyl variety and not what Lankytim is after, I’d be interested to know if it is available for parts plundering. I'd imagine you know him. I understand he's very active in 2cv circles. However people may not know he has a Visa in his garden. Was quite funny when it cropped up in conversation. Stinkwheel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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