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Lol I was just about to say about the silver ties. Re door protectors I wouldn’t as I’ve owned a few car in the past that the previous ownershad fitted them to. The paint underneath them was wrecked. I think water creeps underneath them over time and causes corrosion. 

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1 hour ago, rainagain said:

Lol I was just about to say about the silver ties. Re door protectors I wouldn’t as I’ve owned a few car in the past that the previous ownershad fitted them to. The paint underneath them was wrecked. I think water creeps underneath them over time and causes corrosion. 

that's true! only reason i was thinking of them was just in case i make a mistake sometime and the door gets caught in the wind and hits another car (knowing my luck it would be a 2020 fully loaded s class)

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Did some aesthetic work today, went quite well too

ooooh shiny!


of course these old ones broke the moment i tried to remove them, look rather nasty too i must admit with no chrome left

prefer the older style ones anyway


and we're done, a lot brighter too and look so nice and shiny!


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also stay tuned!!!

much excitement coming to the car in the coming weeks!

also quick thing, creaking when going over uneven roads, speed bumps and when stopping. can also make it creak by bouncing the car up and down....

assuming shock absorber or strut top? no way am i fixing it as i have nightmares about spring compressors

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2 hours ago, paulplom said:

Shouldn't need to use spring compressors when changing a strut top bearing.

Depends on the car, I needed them on the Zafira and almost the 406 but we didn't get that far in the job as the rest of the front suspension wouldn't come apart... 

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12 hours ago, maxxo said:

also stay tuned!!!

much excitement coming to the car in the coming weeks!

also quick thing, creaking when going over uneven roads, speed bumps and when stopping. can also make it creak by bouncing the car up and down....

assuming shock absorber or strut top? no way am i fixing it as i have nightmares about spring compressors

Shame it's lockdown, I had the same with the Zafira and found a local garage through a post on facebook, chucked the entire struts in my car and took them over, 20 minutes later they had my new springs on, only charged me £20 to do the pair too! 

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5 hours ago, paulplom said:

Shouldn't need to use spring compressors when changing a strut top bearing.

i'm thinking worst case it's a shocker, i've seen too many videos of spring compression accidents to attempt it myself haha

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3 hours ago, beko1987 said:

Shame it's lockdown, I had the same with the Zafira and found a local garage through a post on facebook, chucked the entire struts in my car and took them over, 20 minutes later they had my new springs on, only charged me £20 to do the pair too! 

yup i have a garage like that (he seems to have no concept of profit)

what i'm thinking is it may be logical to get the shocks done regardless as they are the originals

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9 hours ago, maxxo said:

yup i have a garage like that (he seems to have no concept of profit)

what i'm thinking is it may be logical to get the shocks done regardless as they are the originals

Just pondering - I have read on Sh1troen forums that creaking front suspension can be the mounting bolts at the top of the strut. Might be worth checking those are torqued up properly. Long shot, but probably you have plenty of time at home now....



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6 minutes ago, Prote said:

Just pondering - I have read on Sh1troen forums that creaking front suspension can be the mounting bolts at the top of the strut. Might be worth checking those are torqued up properly. Long shot, but probably you have plenty of time at home now....



yup they are! has been getting gradually worse over the past month and tends to be louder if i use the car for it's intended purpose.....driving

i've attached a very poor video trying to show the creak......me being a doofus forgot to mute the stereo, but you can still hear it

and before someone says, yes, i know the radio and HVAC system are dusty


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seeing as this car is easily going to be owned by me for the next 10 or so years, might as well fit some "individual" accessories

i've been rather interested in adding some light gold touches to the door handles and hand trim on the door hards to match the centre trim, also seriously considering  fitting some more exclusive spec stuff, such as the dashboard boxes which replace the "non slide" areas and seeing if i can track down a genuine fridge.

of course the next jobs are the sun visors, wood trim and parking sensors as well as sorting out the creak and finally getting a wheel balancing session!

as always with this car, no money is too much it's a great example of a good car....of course not keeping it "stock spec" but everything will be tastefull done

oh yeah and i've bought some pinstripes for the sides as i have an idea!

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pretty poor photoshop but it would look somehwat like this, hopefully with the stripe as a slightly brighter shade and the picasso logo on the rear quater more in the correct location but i think it looks really cool!

please feel free to give me feedback, hoping to get this done next week when the stuff (hopefully) arrives


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So today we started on a job i've been putting off since july,

the door straps!

no amount of grease would solve this....stupid loud clicking, holding the door open far too well and looking absolutely awful


dissasembly time! of course have to remove everything but i can show off the super easy speaker replacement!



surprisngly the door cards on these are really easy to remove, and nothing really broke that badly, just a snapped clip but i don't care about that as i find it funny

so after a nice bit of messing around trying to get the old one out here we go, including nice shiny new part!


i didn't take pictures of the re assembly, it was a massive fuck on involving much swearing as it just didn't want to go in.....

after what felt like many hours of this we finally got it in place! and after more faff with a non magnectic torx set we managed to get it in place


ah wonderful! but wait!! theres more!! the door card would not go back on, well not easily at least

but finally after again what felt like many hours, we finally got it mostly in place....again i find it funny so it's fine


ah yes very nice door! but wait, i will have to do the whole thing again for the drivers side ahahahaha......wonder how long i can put that off for!

but isn't it just lovely and smooth! need to spray a bit of silicone lubricant on the new strap but i'm just glad it's over with

next jobs are the drivers side and the parking sensors, which again should be an absolutely awful job!

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It must be common,3 out of 4 doors on mine crack and groan. Must try to rectify it as I've seen them rip right out the door. Do you happen to know what dimensions the speakers need to be to fit the doors? Thanks. 

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14 minutes ago, bub2006 said:

It must be common,3 out of 4 doors on mine crack and groan. Must try to rectify it as I've seen them rip right out the door. Do you happen to know what dimensions the speakers need to be to fit the doors? Thanks. 

i have also seen that, it really mangles them to bits inside

as far as i know the front speakers are 17cm and the rears 13cm, at least that was the size of the ones i ordered

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So I gave the picasso some more love today, sorting the other door strap

i'd heard they can be removed through the speaker hole


I love how easy the speakers are to remove in these, really is a lovely design


just some torx screws and out they come, obviously these aren't factory speakers as they actually sound good (and i will say what i always say, the factory head unit is pretty good it's just the speakers which let it down)


Once i removed the speaker and the pretty broken foam padding it's obvious it's nice and easy to get the strap out!


Well the moment before i spent 15 minutes fucking around trying to get it out, oh yeah it also broke as i was removing it so i was past the point of no return yay! oh and my hands were absolutely full of oil and grease! which was fun especially trying to remove sockets from the rachet wrench, but we managed to get it out after much swearing


aaaaand we are done, obviously was a fuck on but i'm glad it's sorted now

I dread to think what my neighbours think of me the amount of honestly foul words i was saying as i couldn't get it through the hole even shocked me........

obviously we couldn't leave the car being dirty could we....it's me after all



and yes i was cleaning my car as it was getting dark, and yes i am a weirdo!

i'm driving to the other side of town tomorrow to go for a walk where it's quiet and going to fill up with shell V power

so we know i'll either have some form of major expensive exciting problem or a decent crash

mind you that's more likely to happen on tuesday after i have had my wheels balancing......oh yes i'm actually fixing the wheel wobble...well paying a man to fix it

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had some unintended rear wiper action today!

so the rear wiper activated itself (despite being turned off, but it's a comms2000 so was it actually off?) about an hour ago as i was getting ready to drive home

it seemed to be on intermittent like it is when you use the switch, but acted like it was being turned on and off too

it may be a coincidence but i wiggled the stalk and turned the headlights on and it then seemed to behave

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So in a typical french way the wiper completely behaved itself today, of course it would

i suspect it was due to the little niggles i've sorted out recently

I also fitted a pin stripe down the side today! inspired by a proton i saw!!

It's mostly straight and i think looks superb!



oh yes i actually ordered the correct colour too!

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So you remember how i said i think this car is haunted?

well i'm almost certain now! almost every time i've had a bad near miss, everytime i've had a problem or a failure to proceed it's been when i've been playing "the best of the human leauge" CD, changed CDs today not a single issue

going through dashcam footage, every single one of the really bad incidents have had that cd playing, i hardly play it anyway as it tends to be a bit skippy, it's either a weird coincidence or something weird is going on

The only times i've had bad cold starting issues has been when that CD has been in the player

i swear i'm going nuts, but this is very weird

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2 hours ago, paulplom said:

Toolstation have them for a fiver.8a7f212532d7e7e2c5458bea87b3ab52.jpg

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i need to go to toolstation at some point anyway so i shall get one

sure will make jobs lesss exciting but far easier

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So you know how i've given the picasso a fair amount of love recently?

well i've been repaid by a burst shock! oh yes! much oil everywhere


oh and my discs ummmm may look like this.......


rather embarrasing for that to be seen buy the guy at ATS doing my wheel balancing

oh and i've got a lot of play in both track rod ends.......yay, on the drive home yes i did notice it drives like shit and doesn't feel right at all

as ATS didn't seem to want to rip me off.....and we bad mouthed kwik fit, they've got the job

going in at 10:30 tomorrow morning

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2 minutes ago, paulplom said:

Looks like the rear pad has been binding. Uneven wear by the look of it.

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i thought the same! cars are fun!

i'm pretty excited to get it sorted, probably drive completely different

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of course i didn't go back to ATS i had a moment of sense.....

taking it over to my usual guy, someone i actually trust and see how much he wants, annoying this lockdown as i could really do with going tool shopping but i take ages and have to inspect anything before i buy it

in another exciting way the drivers side shock is knocking rather badly and the passenger side is creaking....much excitement! wheel wobble is between 59 and 64 now so an improvement but the wobble has become an entire vehicle wobble so even more exciting!

suppose i'd better pay a man to fix it hahaha as i'll kill myself with spring compressors if i tried

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      Various discussions were had on the Scotoshite WhatsApp chat and the end result being Mr 320Touring of this parish agreed to come round for a shufty. He was wanting to check up on another car in a lockup only a mile or so away so it was a no brainer.
      As before, front wheels off, bar on the wheel bolts... nothing. What to do next? We need to use the car's own power to try to free off whatever is seized on the front wheels but the car is nose in to the lockup so we can't get jump leads to it. We need to drag it out but we don't have a tow rope however we manage to find what appears to be a self tightening dog collar / leash in the car and decide to cue MAXIMUM SKETCHINESS!!!

      A gentle tug from the ML of doom proved the NSF wheel is tight but not seized however the OSF is not moving. Fuck it... drag it while pushing from the front. If we need to shove it back in there's an old tyre in a pile of rubbish waiting to get uplifted by the council that can act as a cushion and the ML will do the job no bother. We also took the front brake discs off to minimise any drag from those.

      We decided to drag it out just enough to get my jump leads on to the battery. We had already taken the battery out to try it on the leads outside the car. Surprise surprise* it was so dead it had gone open circuit so there was absolutely no magic pixies flowing in to it. Luckily I had an old battery from the 740 that was the same size so that was obtained, inserted and then put to work. Time to leave it to charge for a wee bit.

      Now that we've got some electricity going from the ML in to the 205 it's time to see what will happen. Thanks to Mr Touring for providing the videos...
      At one point we were vexed by the daft French screw on battery terminals
      We were getting a bit desperate by this point. We used quite a lot of "easy start" and the amount of electricity was causing problems.
      We took a break at this point for 10 mins or so. Mainly to make sure we didn't get too frustrated but also to make sure the maximum possible amount of electricity was in the actual battery so that the leads were just there as a boost. This was clearly a good idea...
      Learning from all the antics of the last 15 mins or so we left it for another 5 mins. Using a clamp meter we let it get to the point that almost no electricity was flowing in the leads and therefore an almost complete charge and spraying the "easy start" ahead of time, results were finally had...
      YAY! MUCH ELATION! Oh and that old diesel stinks. Time to get the leads off, move the ML and let the 205 tick over for a few minutes to let the engine settle. Next we found out why the front wheels were not for turning...
      So yeah. All the CV Joints were completely solid. But anyways it was mission accomplished for the day. We got it moving and a general once over suggests that it should be easily salvageable therefore if auntie wants the space in the lockup, it's going to have to go somewhere. Time to put it back in and wrap up for the day.

      Thanks to 320 Touring in assistance. The list of work is substantial but not insurmountable. It needs - a battery, front discs, front pads, front calipers, front lower arms, front driveshafts, possibly bearings, rear drums, rear shoes, rear fitting kit, probably handbrake cables, flexi hoses all round, 4 new tyres, 3 of the 4 doors don't work properly, a water leak at the water pump but that can get done with a new cam belt, probably a thermostat, engine oil, filters all round, fresh fuel, a good clean, handbrake light, oil pressure light and a rear screenwash leak inside the tailgate.
      Oh and a sidelight bulb...

      Interim time:
      Lockup secured in Cumbernauld.
      Car transporter trailer booked for Wed 12th Feb to move it. The V70 will do the honours.
      Another bit of tinkering - 4th February
      So it has been agreed the V5 will be transferred in to my name. With an impending trailer move, I thought I'd go back and have another look at things and reassemble the front brakes. I've already installed a new battery so it can be started without the need for leads and it does so quite happily even though the fuel coming from the tank smells like paint. I drove it about in circles for 5 - 10 mins to free up the CV joints and scrape the rust off the brake discs. I also did some straight line tests pulling away in 2nd which seemed to free up the turbo actuator.
      I also found the radio code so I got that working but you'll have to take my word on it 'cos YouTube will just give me a copyright flag.
      I shall leave this one here just now. Not much will happen for a while. There will of course be the drama of the trailer move but once it's in the lockup a plan of action will need to be drawn up. A sensible first course will be, I think, to find someone who will give it a once over for MoT viability before any new parts are obtained. All the obvious stuff should be easily DIYable but I don't know what lurks underneath. Some things like the timing belt and water pump will be paid for but the rest will just get picked away at in due course.
      I also found some period souvenir parking tickets...


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