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11 hours ago, BorniteIdentity said:

How smoll the rear doors are on a Ford Sierra estate. When compared to the front door and the rear 1/4 window, they look absurd - like a train door or the middle door on a limo. 

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This has always bothered me on the A4 B7 but the Sierra is far worse

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2 hours ago, martc said:

The Chevrolet Spark was chosen by the general public (in Korea?) as the replacement for the Matiz. They had a choice of three prototypes - the Beat, Groove and Trax (see what they did there...). The Spark (nee Beat) won with over 50% of the votes. Here's the choices - which would you pick?

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There's no right answer there is there? It's like asking how you'd like to die. 

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8 minutes ago, bunglebus said:

 

Couldn't see the problem - now I'll never not notice.

Why does the van have different doors?

 

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It makes sense that the door on a 4 seat , 2 door saloon and 2 door  estate are the same to get passengers in the back seat. Also makes sense that a van without rear seats would have smaller doors. 

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The thing that always bugged me was on the Fiat Cinqucento; either side of the plates on the bumper are mouldings for vents. Mostly, in the UK one was open and one was not, I think. I'm unclear on this but the thing that really bugged me was why Fiat detailed one of the vents and left the other one un-detailed! It's unsymmetrical and just looks lazy, like they forgot to review their work and let it get made with a simple error!

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2 hours ago, Tim_E said:

The thing that always bugged me was on the Fiat Cinqucento; either side of the plates on the bumper are mouldings for vents. Mostly, in the UK one was open and one was not, I think. I'm unclear on this but the thing that really bugged me was why Fiat detailed one of the vents and left the other one un-detailed! It's unsymmetrical and just looks lazy, like they forgot to review their work and let it get made with a simple error!

I will admit to having taken the bumper off mine and spent an afternoon with a drill, coping saw and a file removing all the blanks. I then fixed mesh behind it (B&Q natch, painted alloy wheel silver) 

 

Even with the garden brand home improvement it looked better. Without the mesh all you saw was the pipework and emissions crap.

 

Phil

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More BL bodges. 

It has always bugged me that the Marina estate tailgate doesn't fit. 

Why was it produced with a massive gap all the way around? 

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This one has got to be the biggest switch blank slap in the face. 

No sir, this Allegro model does not come with a rev counter OR a clock. 

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Have a piece of cardboard with some pointless lines drawn on it instead. 

Ya tight git. 

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9 hours ago, Garythesnail said:

It makes sense that the door on a 4 seat , 2 door saloon and 2 door  estate are the same to get passengers in the back seat. Also makes sense that a van without rear seats would have smaller doors. 

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Thing is the saloon door droops at the top & even has a mould line at the top that would carry through into the back quarter of the saloon that isn't there on the estate. Consequently it looks shite & always looks like you've nicked the door off a saloon.

The van doors were curved at the bottom to facilitate opening fully on a cambered road with a high kerb.  Possibly an answer by Ford to a question nobody asked !

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Alfa 145 window line. All Alfa had to do was continued the line front the rear window down through the front window and it would have been perfect. 
Could have saved them a few quid which they could have put towards better electrics!
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Nah, one of the reasons I own a 145 is that very design feature!


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1 hour ago, ETCHY said:

 

The van doors were curved at the bottom to facilitate opening fully on a cambered road with a high kerb.  Possibly an answer by Ford to a question nobody asked !

 

That was the difference I didn't understand! Never even noticed they were shorter too

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1 hour ago, Timewaster said:

 

It has always bugged me that the Marina estate tailgate doesn't fit. 

Why was it produced with a massive gap all the way around? 

 

Never looked at one closely but if it's like MK1/MK2 Escort estates, the tailgate closes over the bodywork rather than into an aperture. Ford Model A doors annoy me for the same reason

 

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11 hours ago, jon.k said:

 

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I love, love! how BMW are obliged to use the same, by now tired old design details (such as the kink and kidneys) while everyone else gets a free pass to do as they please. See also 911s and having the engine hanging out the boot. This is how I reckon it went;

BMW management prick(BMP);

"Domagoj you prick you forgot the kidney"

Domagojogiojoggggg;

"Fuck the grills. You've been rehashing that shit since the E24 and no one except loser car bores care anymore"

BMP pulls out a gun;

"Kidney Grills. SCHNELL!"

Domamoamojogogjogigoooo;

"Ok fine. You  want grills? I'll give you grills motherfucker!"

Either that or he's just some smug prick who wants to make a name for himself. 

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Talking of Ford penny pinching - base MK1 Fiesta doesn't get heater vents at the ends of the crashpad, Ford made two different parts, and two different heater boxes to pushish you for being tight

(OK the one in the 2nd pic is the padded Ghia version, but you had to buy at least an L to get decent ventilation)

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20 hours ago, inconsistant said:

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This. We all know what's supposed to go there between the wing and the headlights, you can't fool us that it was meant to be like that and you didn't have a last minute change of plan for the headlights/indicators when you'd already made the tooling for the bodywork.

Repeat offenders. 

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Fiat Tempra estate rear doors:

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Fiat Tempra SW and Vauxhall Nova Merit Plus (2006) by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

The narrowness of that window is so annoying.

As noted by others, Volvo 245 and BX estate rear doors.

The missing section of rear bumper on Cherry estates:

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1979 Datsun Cherry 1.0 Estate (N10) by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

Yes, I know the tailgate going so low is because it has a very deep floor, but it's still odd.

The awkward rear window on the 3dr hatchback of the same model:

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1979 Datsun Cherry 1.0 (N10), c.2002/2003 by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

And finally, Euro-spec 240K Skylines had the headlights pushed forwards flush with the grille and the tops chopped off:

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1979 Datsun 240K GT (C210) c.2000/01 by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

But elsewhere in the world they had proper round surrounds with the lights recessed, which looked much better. I got hold of some for mine from Australia:

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1979 Datsun 240K GT (C210) by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

That still didn't improve the too-low rear arch and droopy bootline however.

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