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1 hour ago, jamescarruthers said:

If not, Edwards & Sons are likely to have one. 

I'll give these people a ring on Tuesday. Do you have a link to the Telford BX at all?

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43 minutes ago, Fumbler said:

I'll give these people a ring on Tuesday. Do you have a link to the Telford BX at all?

Telford: https://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=269843#p269843

”East of England” https://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22821&sid=b1871a6c98d0c760e9257707522facb0
 

Edwards & Sons, deepest darkest Essex http://www.edwardsandson.co.uk/

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  • Fumbler changed the title to Fumbler's Crocks- Car Alarm Be Gone

So I managed to successfully uninstall the car alarm today.
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All it took was to rectify the splice into the coil wiring the fitters made, disconnect each connector one by one and check to see the car still started. Once everything was disconnected, I unscrewed the alarm unit and removed it from the car.
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I will revisit this repair one day with solder and more appropriate heatshrink, but, for now, the car works.

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And so we say farewell to this ancient fossil of vehicle security. Weird thinking that it just sat around without power for just over half its life. It didn't even save the car from being broken into either.

I've still got a fair bit of wire to remove, plus the ultrasonics to remove, but at least it's now most definitely gone for good.

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  • Fumbler changed the title to Fumbler's Crocks- Radio Gaga

Did radioshite yesterday. While the Panasonic headunit works, the FM quality is dogshit and isn't nice to lisen to. It frequently loses signal in places the Micra's similarly-aged radio didn't. Put simply, it was a pain in the arse to use and tune and I didn't like the look or feel of it.

Fortunately, there was a spare Blaupunkt Boston radio/cassette unit already fitted to a better condition bezel. I took it apart and cleaned it on Friday evening and verified it was working:
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All it's presets were set just out of frequency of all the common radio stations. Weird. It demanded a code, as they always do when being powered up for the first time, I punched in the numbers and ws greeted with a functioning unit. Excellent.

Whoever was in there previously needed to edit the factory provided wiring to fit the Panasonic unit. All the spade connectors were lopped off and put in a chocbox yonks ago. Luckily, the owner's handbook describes what wires do which so that was little concern. I needed an earth connection but lacked spade connectors. So I did the right thing and scavenged one from the old alarm wiring which also happens to be coloured red! Perfect.
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Fast forward to Saturday, a mate of mine picked up an antenna adapter so I could test the speakers.

We has Choonz.
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Programmed in all the radio stations I wanted and it sounds excellent. I'll clean the cassette player and try it out when I'm back home for longer than a day. No Dolby NR but the recorder I have doesn't hiss all that much. Could do with HX Pro though.

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Money shot. It's amber and I love it. The camera tried to up the contrast so it looks a little funky on the display, but in person it looks just fine. I'm calling this one nice period-correct improvement.

As for what I do with the old unit, I don't know. It works, but it requires TLC. I'll put it up for sale with other BX bits. I'll clean up the bezel attached and see if the bluetooth headunit I also have fits. Not that I intent to fit it, but why not try anyway?

 

In other banal news, I removed all the visible remnants of the old alarm system attached to the interior.
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Bang and the dirt is gone.

When fishing out the wires for the steering column LED, I discovered that all the central wiring was done behind the column fascia. There's an errant relay socket, a rat's nest of wires snaking everywhere, all in the same colours that go to the connectors in the engine bay. I'll chop back as much as possible at my leisure, as all of it is redundant. That being said, the lack of relay in the socket suggests someone already made the steps to disable the alarm portion quite some time ago, which would also explain the missing panel screws and broken clips in that area. My aim is to cut off and insulate the wiring going into the engine bay. From there I can treat and seal the rusty holes entering the dashboard and through scuttle bulkhead. All the hidden wiring doesn't concern me. Depending on what it's connected to, it may prove useful someday.

Finally, after a week of waiting, the wire for the battery main earth arrived in the post. This means I can finally fix that mess. I have a feeling the earthed connection to the starter relay isn't working as it won't crank when the sun heats up. Cleaning up the main engine and body earth points will help, replacing the clamp and wires will help put my mind at ease.

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As for what I do with the old unit, I don't know. It works, but it requires TLC. I'll put it up for sale with other BX bits. I'll clean up the bezel attached and see if the bluetooth unit I also have fits. Not that I intent to fit it, but why not try anyway?

 

OOH... do you retrofit BT to any stereo??? would be nice to slap the standard one back in the pickarse and get my steering wheel controls working again if you do..

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1 minute ago, bezzabsa said:

As for what I do with the old unit, I don't know. It works, but it requires TLC. I'll put it up for sale with other BX bits. I'll clean up the bezel attached and see if the bluetooth unit I also have fits. Not that I intent to fit it, but why not try anyway?

 

OOH... do you retrofit BT to any stereo??? would be nice to slap the standard one back in the pickarse and get my steering wheel controls working again if you do..

My mistake, I meant I have a Bluetooth-enabled headunit I pulled from my sister's car a number of years ago. It's single-DIN sized and will fit but looks crap.

Now that you've said it though, it may be an avenue worth looking down.

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25 minutes ago, Fumbler said:

My mistake, I meant I have a Bluetooth-enabled headunit I pulled from my sister's car a number of years ago. It's single-DIN sized and will fit but looks crap.

Now that you've said it though, it may be an avenue worth looking down.

oooh right LOL.....I've seen a few folk on yootoob do it, but all i ever manage is dry joints and burnt fingers 

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36 minutes ago, Fumbler said:

It's single-DIN sized and will fit but looks crap

Would you like to spend all the money? Because if you do, these look like a fantastic option for a period-looking radio with all the modern kit on.

https://www.blaupunkt.com/en/nc/products/car-multimedia/car-radio/products/single/19059/

Was tempted to get one for the P6 since it's got a bit of a "70s car that's living in the 80s" vibe about it, but I can't justify the thick end of 400 quid for a radio.

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2 minutes ago, Crackers said:

Would you like to spend all the money? Because if you do, these look like a fantastic option for a period-looking radio with all the modern kit on.

https://www.blaupunkt.com/en/nc/products/car-multimedia/car-radio/products/single/19059/

Was tempted to get one for the P6 since it's got a bit of a "70s car that's living in the 80s" vibe about it, but I can't justify the thick end of 400 quid for a radio.

ALL TEH MONIES!

Man that looks pretty with the red LEDs. I'm alright with what I got I think. I rather like cassettes and stuff like that. If I need to, I can get a cassette adapter with a 3.5mm jack on it if I need.

Of course if DAB takes over everything then I'll snap one up as it'll look nice and be modern.

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Given that there is an auxiliary input function on the bASe stereo on my BMW E60, I am tempted to add Bluetooth that way to it. Of course, it'll need "coding" 🤬

(I washed the E60 for the first time in 18 months today: the muck was doing a good job of hiding just how shite the front bumper lacquer peel looks)

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  • Fumbler changed the title to Fumbler's Crocks- Number Plate Help Plz

I'm idly looking at a potential new useless purchase, but I cannot decide which one I prefer. I'm highly tempted to order new plates because the rear is beginning to show its age and the front is newer and missing the (very simple) dealer slogan. I've made up two designs:
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?order_no=6099868FD6314&id=7827905?order_no=6099868FD6314&id=7827906

The top pair use the exact same registration font as the car currently has, but lacks the ability to display the umlaut E correctly. I like the bottom because of the Serck-like font and the slogan is correct.

I like both, but, which one is better?

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3 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

Vulgalour's ex-BX has the bottom plates on it, and they look good. 

If you know where to look on FB you could get exactly what you want but I don't thin k it'd be cheap.

Ah! I thought The Wafflewagon had that font. Looks very nice indeed. I could go down the Facebook route but no account and no desire to make one puts a stop to that idea. I ordered the plates for the Micra off another plate site which has since gone in the last year, conveniently so because they're crap stick-on labels with bubbles and even haid embedded into the label.

5 minutes ago, Crackers said:

I vote Serck-ish ones. They look grand.

Looks my decision is going to be an easy one.

I experimented with a blue border...
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...although, for simplicity's sake, I think I'd go without on this car.

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I don’t know if you lot do shite-lynchings but I must confess that I find the Serck number plate font pretty awful. If I bought a car with it on, the plates would be coming off, only retained for reinstallation upon reselling to tempt you Serck suckers!

 

Although I do appreciate your desire to get the Ö right in Citröen!

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5 hours ago, dozeydustman said:

Serck. Wins every time. Especially if you can get pressed metal plates

Although metal would be nice, the car looks too new for pressed plates IMO.

2 hours ago, jamescarruthers said:

I don’t know if you lot do shite-lynchings but I must confess that I find the Serck number plate font pretty awful. If I bought a car with it on, the plates would be coming off, only retained for reinstallation upon reselling to tempt you Serck suckers!

 

Although I do appreciate your desire to get the Ö right in Citröen!

I can always get the original font plates, I'll need to put in the special requests box to have the correct Ë put in place and have the slogan in Helvetica like it is on the original.

Also, what's with the Ö?
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45 minutes ago, Fumbler said:

Although metal would be nice, the car looks too new IMO.

I can always get the original font plates, I'll need to put in the special requests box to have the correct Ë put in place and have the slogan in Helvetica like it is on the original.

Also, what's with the Ö?
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Sorry, I meant the Ë!


And I have the cheek to call myself a Citroën fan! Oh, the shame!

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1 hour ago, jamescarruthers said:

Sorry, I meant the Ë!


And I have the cheek to call myself a Citroën fan! Oh, the shame!

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I'm also going to start doing some nickel plating of metals and car components as a fun experiment. I want to investigate how much more effective it would be at corrosion resistance as opposed to using cold galvanising compound which is a lot more expensive and I have a limited quantity. I want to start gradually refurbishing the rear end of the BX and a good place to start would be the rear disc splash guards. As the surface is large and flat I can also see how well paint adheres to it and so on. It's relatively simple getting the guards off, but they have been on there for a very long time.

EDIT I can also use the same technique with copper and zinc, and I have copper at home I can use to try plating some little things as a test while I'm home for the weekend.

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  • Fumbler changed the title to Fumbler's Crocks- Hot Air

Wet car
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The weather made it obvious to drive to a remote location, walk and get soaking wet and then break the heater system so I was forced to drive back in a steamy car. It broke because this happened:
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Enhanced imaged goodness. Basically the top piece of metal bridges the traces on the heater PCB to make the blower turn at different speeds. Constant contact with said traces is ensured by the bottom piece, which is a piece of sprung brass. Unfortunately, being brass, it bent out of shape over the years and wasn't providing the springyness to make contact. Unfortunately they're joined with CA glue instead of solder, which I'll rectify in  a couple days' time. For now, I bent the brass out a bit and superglued it in place. All the bulbs were blown so I've ordered 4 new ones which I can fit this weekend.

Now the heater blower nearly completely works without needing to whack it!

There's a dead spot near the top end but I can live with that for the time being. Full speed relay works and most of the variable control does so that's a win in my book.

All the springs are missing on the centre heater vents so they've gone floppy and loose. Fixed with some folded thick paper.
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My hands stank of cigarettes afterwards. Fortunately the car's overall smell has improved with use but the smell is always interesting* when the interior is hot.

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2 hours ago, Fumbler said:

Lookey lookey @jamescarruthers

Might this be a later revision board? The mod on BX forum looks to have already been made here and the boost relay clicks like it should.

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Wow, maybe! It certainly looks different from the two I did on later cars than yours. I never knew Citroen actually fixed it. It is very weird that this is fixed on an F-reg car. Maybe you have  previous owner who bought a new panel from Citroen after complaining about poor ventilation?

 

Very interesting!

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Just now, jamescarruthers said:

Wow, maybe! It certainly looks different from the two I did on later cars than yours. I never knew Citroen actually fixed it. It is very weird that this is fixed on an F-reg car. Maybe you have  previous owner who bought a new panel from Citroen after complaining about poor ventilation?

 

Very interesting!

Indeed! Board is dated 1988 which matches the ORGA code. It certainly hasn't moved in a very long time so I suspect it's original. I suspect it's something PSA quitely fixed and didn't tell anyone, not even performed a recall for. I also suspect they continued to use the defective boards just to get them out of the plant.

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      We took a break at this point for 10 mins or so. Mainly to make sure we didn't get too frustrated but also to make sure the maximum possible amount of electricity was in the actual battery so that the leads were just there as a boost. This was clearly a good idea...
      Learning from all the antics of the last 15 mins or so we left it for another 5 mins. Using a clamp meter we let it get to the point that almost no electricity was flowing in the leads and therefore an almost complete charge and spraying the "easy start" ahead of time, results were finally had...
      YAY! MUCH ELATION! Oh and that old diesel stinks. Time to get the leads off, move the ML and let the 205 tick over for a few minutes to let the engine settle. Next we found out why the front wheels were not for turning...
      So yeah. All the CV Joints were completely solid. But anyways it was mission accomplished for the day. We got it moving and a general once over suggests that it should be easily salvageable therefore if auntie wants the space in the lockup, it's going to have to go somewhere. Time to put it back in and wrap up for the day.

      Thanks to 320 Touring in assistance. The list of work is substantial but not insurmountable. It needs - a battery, front discs, front pads, front calipers, front lower arms, front driveshafts, possibly bearings, rear drums, rear shoes, rear fitting kit, probably handbrake cables, flexi hoses all round, 4 new tyres, 3 of the 4 doors don't work properly, a water leak at the water pump but that can get done with a new cam belt, probably a thermostat, engine oil, filters all round, fresh fuel, a good clean, handbrake light, oil pressure light and a rear screenwash leak inside the tailgate.
      Oh and a sidelight bulb...

      Interim time:
      Lockup secured in Cumbernauld.
      Car transporter trailer booked for Wed 12th Feb to move it. The V70 will do the honours.
      Another bit of tinkering - 4th February
      So it has been agreed the V5 will be transferred in to my name. With an impending trailer move, I thought I'd go back and have another look at things and reassemble the front brakes. I've already installed a new battery so it can be started without the need for leads and it does so quite happily even though the fuel coming from the tank smells like paint. I drove it about in circles for 5 - 10 mins to free up the CV joints and scrape the rust off the brake discs. I also did some straight line tests pulling away in 2nd which seemed to free up the turbo actuator.
      I also found the radio code so I got that working but you'll have to take my word on it 'cos YouTube will just give me a copyright flag.
      I shall leave this one here just now. Not much will happen for a while. There will of course be the drama of the trailer move but once it's in the lockup a plan of action will need to be drawn up. A sensible first course will be, I think, to find someone who will give it a once over for MoT viability before any new parts are obtained. All the obvious stuff should be easily DIYable but I don't know what lurks underneath. Some things like the timing belt and water pump will be paid for but the rest will just get picked away at in due course.
      I also found some period souvenir parking tickets...

      ---ENDS---

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