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I need a little advice regarding which ignition coil to use. I had to go some water and I think by unhappy coincidence my ignition coil blew (even though none of the contacts got wet).

This car uses a standard type ignition coil not coil packs. The replacement from Rimmer's gives no indication as to what it actually is and I don't fancy paying VAT on top of the courier charge again if I'm honest.

Any suggestions as it's a minefield 

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Isn't it just a standard coil, as fitted to everything from the 70s on?  Far as I remember there's no ballast resistor or any of that nonsense, just a generic modern sort as you'd get from Lucas, etc.

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21 hours ago, vulgalour said:

Isn't it just a standard coil, as fitted to everything from the 70s on?  Far as I remember there's no ballast resistor or any of that nonsense, just a generic modern sort as you'd get from Lucas, etc.

Available as both ballasted and none ballasted and I'm buggered if I know the difference as they look the same.

I'm taking it off and sending it to a local supplier that can tell me what the hell it has on it. 

Will replace that way.... Not in a rush as not in a mood to work on cars currently.

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Ok, well, I seem to have suddenly gained a total of 3 cars. 

Basically the 414sli requires some maintenance and a couple of parts I am struggling to source. With the recent coil shenanigans it is movable with a borrowed coil from a friend! The fuel tank is now leaking onto the hot exhaust and the vibrations from the lower rear engine tie rod are unbearable. I cannot source the latter part for an R8 as nla.

Soo... While out and about with my dad we went a mosey around to see what cars were about locally. Needless to say we found one (oops).

So now I have an R8 414sli, a HHR 414i XL and am custodian of a Mercedes W210 E240 2.4 elegance. I have room for only one car.

R8 has had to go to swmbo house and sit on the drive. Mercedes got me told off (again) and HHR lives in my parking space.

 

Anyway ..... Here is HHR!

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and the best bit ....

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this may as well be a 1 owner car. Originally registered to Appleyard Rover at Harrogate as a demonstration model until about six months or so old. Then purchased by the last owner and kept until I purchased it.

It wears the original dealer plates and is in really good order with all fluids being the correct colour and quantity.

This is my new daily and there are to be no modifications unless dealer optional items.

Wcpgw?

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First bit of deep cleaning happening..IMG_20190808_183021.thumb.jpg.aa3f49aac900d935e1fb560162756a54.jpg

You can't really tell in the picture but there are millions of swirls in the paint from years of poor polishing practices. I have the passenger side of the bonnet done and I will come to the other side shortly.

It seems I don't work as fast as I used too but the results are really impressive. 

Also deodorised the AC with a Meguiar's  whole car air re-fresher (black chrome as the other smells like rancid flowers). The difference is night and day tbh and well worth the £10 or so it was.

On the list of wants at the top is some genuine Rover headlamp guards because reasons. Timing belt is 10 years past due so also needs doing very soon and the downpipe Flexi is blown .... Other than that this thing is epic and really nice to drive.

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We have established a Hyundai ioniq makes a good recovery vehicle for bailing out r8s with a shot coil at silly o clock in the evening. I said it was the coil on the phone but you didn't believe me! Reliant Rialto coil works fine to get you home. The hhr is bloody tidy. Glad to hear the multi tool made good a decent amount of pitting in the dizzy. The rotor arm also looked a lot better after I fettled it but as we know they will benefit from replacement. Really comfy though and drives really nice. 

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.... so why do you need three cars?

No offence mate but you already know exactly how this will end. You will likely keep the one with the most "street cred" which is usually the one that turns out to be completely fucked and/or rotten. Then start the cycle all over again.

Fix the R8 and get rid of the other dead-weights. For the cost of what you're spending on the other vehicles you could get the R8 completely resprayed whatever colour you wanted. I thought that was the plan? I don't understand your thinking here, at all. You've already paid for a fuel tank. Fit it.

I did thousands of pounds worth of work to that car FOR FREE and will be... annoyed... if you simply dump it for the sake of a coil and a bit of vibration from a lower engine mount. It's a lovely car with a completely sorted engine and a professional shop-quality HGF repair. The 1.4 K series is insanely cheap to run, cheap to tax, and not a terrible slouch.

I will try to source the correct coil and the lower engine mount bushes for you. Pretty sure last time I did one of those mounts I could find the bushes sold separately. I was going to source them for Angyl but he stopped using the car then decided to sell it so I didn't bother following through with it. Although you are on your own regarding the cat, you can get one made from anywhere that makes exhausts for likely the same price, it's just a standard cat with different flanges TIG'ed on.

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I'm keeping both of the cars. The mercedes was dropped like a hot potato.

There's no point in me using the R8 until properly fixed as it will do it no favours really. I already spent £110 on the timing gear and a further almost £60 on the tank. 

This is the current state and condition of the HH-R ..

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hardly the car with the most street cred in the universe but it's exceptionally clean for 20 years old.

For now the R8 is in the sin bin...

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And as a daily every day motor the HH-R is overall better to live with. The R8 will end up being a toy. Until I get around to replacement of the split fuel tank it will stay tucked away where it is without drama. 

Once it has the ignition coil sorted and the lower rear tie rod fixed (this part IS NOT made anywhere now. Totally discontinued!) it can be used again. But because of the mods classic insurance is a non starter unlike the green one. 

 

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There's enough R8s being broken for parts to ensure you can track down at least a serviceable tie-rod, even if not brand new. If you use Facebook, join the R8 page and put out a plea - also the 200/400 OC forum, very helpful bunch

Owners group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071922119521435/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1008779902493431/

Sales pages:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2104271929791970/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1008779902493431/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/118152902300899/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/375063915971885/

Debbie Bonner who is a regular poster on  all the above, works for a Rover scrapper extraordinaire  in Kings Norton https://www.facebook.com/kingsnortoncarspares/

Thomas and Ryan at RA Spares, another Rover specialist breaker https://www.facebook.com/groups/287187658453164/

Owners club: 

http://www.rover200.org.uk/forums/index.php

 

 

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On 8/14/2019 at 9:14 PM, chompy_snake said:

It's a VW coil of some sort actually 🤣

Well I have a vw carb and a ford carb in my box of reliant Spares along with manifolds that definitely aren't reliant  Previous owner had a beetle engines trike so when he gave me the spares I think everything got slung in the box. 

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Check your spares pile for that new tie rod that I got from Rimmers.  It's longer than the original (which I didn't know until getting the original off) so the two options are swapping the bushes from the new one into the old housing or, more drastically, having the arm on the new one shortened by the relevant amount.  The bushes should push out of one and into the other and that's a completely free fix for you.  Another of the jobs I just didn't get as far as doing before selling it.

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Well the R8 got an MOT as I forgot that it was about to lapse and happened to be near the place. 

Mostly clean bill of health except for now needing a gearbox. The one on it (presume it has 118k hard miles on it) is vomiting oil everywhere and has become exceptionally noisy 1st through 3rd.

It has become a project build that myself and my 8 year old lad are doing between us as he may not be legally allowed to drive when old enough. It is hopefully in for a cage fitting over the winter months while it hibernates, and currently weighs in at 920kg. 

We are hoping to get that weight down further as the cage will be in excess of 100kg when welded in and the preferred option is keeping the 1400 16v in there if possible.

Now insured as a competition car (super cheap) and needs to remain legal on the road.

The HH-R continues to plod on, however getting extremely annoyed with idiots opening doors into it in carparks (even parked away in a corner I will come back to people of questionable parentage parked as close as possible to it) . The biggest issue so far with it has been needing tyres all round and a downpipe. Continental EcoContact6 are really nice in smaller sizes I have found.

So yeah, found my happy place as a rover licker and there may be a 3rd rover on the way over Christmas if I can sort out the extra storage 

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