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Pilfered from the R8 Owners Club forum:

Copied from another club forum (see if you can guess which one) as not received directly

Good Evening All,

Can you assist in helping to prevent discrimination against the Scottish Historic Vehicle Movement?

The Federation would be grateful if you can forward this information to your Scottish group(s) within your Club.

Attached is a document detailing what you can do. This URGENT action is required before Tuesday 4 June 2019.

When communicating to your MSP please mark your emails as ‘High Importance’ with the title ‘The Transport (Scotland) Bill’ to enable them to act within the specified time.

If you have any questions please liaise with Bob Owen, FBHVC Legislation Director on 01935 873064 or [email protected]

Kindest Regards

Emma Balaam

Secretary, Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs Ltd

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https://forum.triumphdolomite.co.uk/dow ... p?id=12086

The proposed LEZ legislation will ban virtually all vehicles with measurable exhaust emissions from Scottish city centres. That will automatically include all of our vehicles, as they emit CO and significant quantities of unburnt hydrocarbons (as compared with newer cars with catalytic converters that emit CO2 instead of CO, and minimal HC). The equivalent legislation in England does have a waiver for recognised historic vehicles, but the proposed Scottish legislation does not.

MSP Murdo Fraser has proposed an amendment to the Scottish legislation that would introduce such a waiver, but unless it is supported by other MSPs, the amendment won't be included and henceforth historic vehicles would be banned from Scottish cities. Hence a request for members north of the border to lobby their MSPs to support it.

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murdo fraser hasnt got a clue, for all the damage classic/historics do it is negligible. why not lobby the scottish environment minister roseanna cunningham  https://www.gov.scot/about/who-runs-government/cabinet-and-ministers/cabinet-secretary-environment-climate-change-land-reform/

you might also weant to lobby the transport minister michael mathieson https://www.gov.scot/about/who-runs-government/cabinet-and-ministers/cabinet-secretary-for-transport-infrastructure-and-connectivity/

you might get somewhere as holyrood is governed by the snp

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2 hours ago, big_al_granvia said:

you might get somewhere as holyrood is governed by the snp

I think MSPs from other parties are still allowed to propose amendments to bills though 😉

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9 hours ago, Tadhg Tiogar said:

I thought the SNP were more concerned with having another go at another independence referendum?

no governing scotland is still the day job, dissolving the union is the weekend one... i might be a snp member and activist but i can still see when legislation is shite

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I dutifully emailed my constituency MSP, and he got back to me with an update today. The relevant committee debated the bill last Wednesday but Mr Fraser was persuaded that due to the committee not having had a chance to consider evidence etc. that his amendments should be deferred to stage 3 of the bill. I don't know when that's likely to happen.

The full gory details of the meeting can be found here:

report.aspx?r=12169&mode=pdf

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Although I'm not totally sure what the question is (are we reducing congestion and pollution or topping up the governments piggy bank?) I don't think this is the answer.

The answer is really very simple and I've been saying it for years. You want fewer cars on the road then get rid of the archaic view that everybody* needs to travel to an office in the city at the same time of the morning and sit there all day doing stuff they could easily do from home and then all travel home again at the same time, it's a completely ridiculous and wasteful way of living. 

I appreciate there are many jobs where you do require to be 'on site' but the culture should be "if you can work from home then you should", not "you'd better have a damn good reason not to be in the office at 9am sharp"

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Yes, another idiotic idea from CEC so that they can fund their tram that doesn't go anywhere you want it to*

So, Mr Business owner you own a premises that has private parking for your employees, well sorry we don't like that so you'll have to pay £400 a year per space.

As I understand it from an article I read a few weeks ago it is the employer who will be charged and it is at their discretion whether to pass the cost on to their employees. Can the council even legally charge someone to park on their own private land? By the sounds of this yes in which case I'm sure it won't be long before they charge you to park in your own driveway.

Not heard the bit about being paid £400 to use public transport, how would they verify that? Could you drive to work, pay the £400 to park at the office then walk back 2 stops and get the bus back to work and claim the £400 back?

Another brilliant idea they are implementing next year is closing off areas of the city to cars on certain days so that everyone can enjoy sitting in a traffic jam elsewhere increasing pollution and being unable to get where they need to go..... genius.

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1 hour ago, Tartan58 said:

 

Another brilliant idea they are implementing next year is closing off areas of the city to cars on certain days so that everyone can enjoy sitting in a traffic jam elsewhere increasing pollution and being unable to get where they need to go..... genius.

I think that's what the climate change protesters did when I was in Edinburgh, it ruined my one bus tour. 

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3 hours ago, DVee8 said:

There was something on the news this morning about charging for work place parking. But being payed £400 a year to use public transport.

Handy given public transport is so expensive, unreliable, over crowded and frequently unavailable.

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WPL has been a thing here in Nottingham for years (I think it was one of the first in the UK). All it does is result in hard-up teachers parking their cars outside the schools they work in, and come chucking out time it's total gridlock.

To be fair, though, the funding raised (many millions) went towards the tram extension and the Station redevelopment and also was pumped into a united local public transport system which has worked and continues to work rather well. If you have to wait more than 7 minutes for a bus/tramwithin city limits there's likely been something beyond the transport company's control

https://bettertransport.org.uk/blog/better-transport/winning-policy-nottinghams-workplace-parking-levy

Nottingham also moved away from introducing a Clean Air Zone, mainly because a lot of the City Transport's buses are moving over to biofuel https://www.nctx.co.uk/gasbus

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