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420 went for MoT on Friday 10 May - test abandoned, emissions machine broked. To be seen to this week sometime. Gave me a chance to bleed the brakes on Saturday 11 May - no issues at all, every bleed screw behaved, job done in about half an hour. Have got some replacement wheel nuts off the Bay so I can bin off the crappy alloy cap designs and the locking nuts that are on it at present. Love this car more every time I drive it. Once I get the test done, I'm probably gonna take off the NI plate and stick that on retention - hopefully DVLA will give the car back its original reg, L534EOV (thanks Ghosty !) Also to do - find the rattle, sort the iffy electrics, also ordered a temp sender sensor as the gauge is hit and miss (hoping not the stat, but likely not, and even if it is , tis only a 10 minute job on a T-series apparently).

620 got the 'Rover emblem on the boot treatment a la 420' today, £6 real badge off eBay. Looks neat, photo to follow.

214 - finally got the fuel filter off today to pop a new one in : welded in, been struggling with it since I bought the car last Oct ! Also swapped out the throttle pot sensor for a newer one, may solve some of my running woes. Dunno as battery is flat, couldn't be arsed jumping it. Have left a note in front of the dials to remind self to ensure petrol not pissing out of the fuel filter when I fire it up next ! Still need to get a new exhaust on it, may try to do that next weekend.

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Was tripped up by a couple of shafted ARB drop links at last week's test for the 420, so £20 spent and just under an hour with the car on Sunday got me this :

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Cheapest outlay evah to get a ticket (ignoring the Streetwise's two straight passes), well chuffed with that.

Will need to give consideration to the rear bushes in the next few months, but I may go Powerflex for the whole lot as it does feel a bit 'tired'

Despite the ticket, I will need to take the car off the road soon as I want to reunite it with its old identity - as I noted, not a fan of personalised registrations, I like my cars to tell the world how old they are.

Still got a few electronic issues to iron out, but I did also replace the temp gauge sender on Sunday, and the dial works as it should now, so one niggle off the list for now.

As noted elsewhere, I'm lusting after a little Alfa coupe so quite how that will impact upon the existing fleet remains to be seen. The logical one to offload is the Streetwise but it means a lot to me that car, so not going to happen - every fleet needs a reliable modern* and it's never let me down.

214 will deffo go at some stage, once I get some proper time to give it some care and attention, hopefully over the next few weekends.

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Not sure if you want or need my opinion but I have had my share of rovers over the years, most of them R8s in almost all the engine flavours except a diesel.

Throw some 16” BRM cosmos on it (IMO the second best wheel rover have ever designed after the five spoke GTI r8 wheels) lower it 40mm and chuck some washers between the rear upper arms and the body to sort the camber out.

Perfect.

If you ever want to sell it I might be in the market. Drop us a first refusal?

For info I recently made a list of all cars I’ve ever owned. Here is the Rover portion:

Rover metro
Rover 200vi
Rover 220gti white
Rover 220 conversion
Rover 220 gsi blue
Rover 214sli
Rover brm
Rover 414 hgf
Rover 214 convertible black
Rover 216sli gold
Rover 220gsi brg
Rover coupe silver
Rover 45 blue fixed HGF
Rover 45 zs conversion

Two HGFs in all, never scrapped one. I think I could maintain one blindfolded by now. Jealous.




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The electrical woes on the 420 were actually related to a blown dim/dip fuse - Eric The Car Guy wins again on the advice stakes.

Circuit tester on all fuses wheedled the troublesome critter out and now we have:

  • working intermittent wipe (MFU related)
  • courtesy light works (and on a delay due to replacement MFU I'd fitted)
  • lights on warning buzzer (MFU related)
  • clock remembers the time when I turn the lights on
  • radio/cassette remembers the code is deactivated
  • heated rear window works (MFU related)

So, the only two minor annoyances on the 420 now are:

  • the rattling at 1750 rpm
  • the non-age related registration

The latter has been all but sorted, £80 paid to DVLA, authority document received - off to Halfords tomorrow to reclaim the 420's identity, L534 EOV. PM to flat4alfa to see if he wants the old Oirish plate back

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On 5/24/2019 at 5:43 PM, pauldoubleyou said:

Not sure if you want or need my opinion but I have had my share of rovers over the years, most of them R8s in almost all the engine flavours except a diesel.

Throw some 16” BRM cosmos on it (IMO the second best wheel rover have ever designed after the five spoke GTI r8 wheels) lower it 40mm and chuck some washers between the rear upper arms and the body to sort the camber out.

Perfect.

If you ever want to sell it I might be in the market. Drop us a first refusal?

For info I recently made a list of all cars I’ve ever owned. Here is the Rover portion:

Rover metro
Rover 200vi
Rover 220gti white
Rover 220 conversion
Rover 220 gsi blue
Rover 214sli
Rover brm
Rover 414 hgf
Rover 214 convertible black
Rover 216sli gold
Rover 220gsi brg
Rover coupe silver
Rover 45 blue fixed HGF
Rover 45 zs conversion

Two HGFs in all, never scrapped one. I think I could maintain one blindfolded by now. Jealous.




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I can't see the 420 going anywhere anytime soon I'm afraid, as I'm totally besotted with it, but the 214 would deffo be up for grabs assuming I can get it roadworthy again. The woeful vibration is still there, hoping nothing more sinister than a knackered flexi pipe, there's a parasitic drain on the battery I've yet to nail, 5th gear is hard to select, and last time I drove it in earnest it was hiccupping and spluttering all over the place (that could have been a stuffed fuel filter, which appeared to be original factory fit when I managed to unweld it a couple of weeks back). 

It's fate will be determined about a month from now - I have a fortnight off work, and want to try and get it another test, due 29 June 2019. If I can get it through that without too much wallet rapeage, it'll definitely be on sale/roffle here.

Unless someone wants to take it off my hands now for a silly price - will need trailering.

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A relatively successful two days spent in the 214's company.

I mentioned elsewhere I'd popped over to Rimmer Bros in Lincoln, and I'd picked up an  air intake sensor and some nuts and bolts for  when I decide to man the fuck up and fit the exhaust myself.

I popped the sensor in yesterday, 10 min job, air box off, just screws into the  bottom.

I'd also recently swapped in a new fuel filter.

Who'd have thunk those two things would have made such a difference. Apart from a fast idle at 1250rpm (either sticky throttle or air leak - my money's on the latter as there is a 'tapping' noise which may be a fucked gasket) and the exhaust grumblings the car drove like a total champ  - took it for a couple of little drives, then a longer one, then one involving a short burst of ragging it. No misfiring, no stuttering, no tricky gear changes - everything just flowed nicely.

If I get the exhaust on (everything soaked in Plusgas, will give it a bash next week) and find the source of the high idle, I might just be able to get this in for a new test and off the Clayts' forecourt soon. It'll be for sale on here first.

Also did some cleaning up underneath where I had the oil explosion about six months back (holed the filter and a Vesuvius of oil splattered everywhere). It's pretty darned solid under there.

It was super to be behind the wheel of it again though, and driving it in well, not so much anger, more Cheshire cat grin.

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I'd heard that the 25 SW was popular in France, but I didn't know it was the fastest selling Rover of all time there. It would be interesting to see how many they actually sold.  

The halfway house of a dash facelift they did on the SW was a bit odd. A slightly redesigned dash not shared with the 25 or ZR with some unique switchgear that was ditched anyway with the Mk2 dash. 

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The old girl (the 214) is driving me nuts.

I've checked everywhere for air leaks including spraying carb cleaner everywhere and cannot find any, yet the car steadfastedly does a wobbly idle, and once fully warmed up sits at 1500 rpm. 

I've identified the stepper motor , which previously I believed to be fucked, is actually working as it should, and I'm now suspecting the throttle pot sensor I fitted is actually fucked, so I'm going to stick the old one back in again tomorrow.

I'm wondering whether the leak from the flexi is fucking up the lambda sensor readings, thus causing the ECU to over compensate, so I've posed the question on the R8 Facefart group to see if they can help.

Last resort I do have a back up ECU so it may end up with me swapping the old one out if all else fails.

I'm off work from next Monday, so will be able to spend some more time scratching my head pretending I know what I'm doing.

The good thing is it drives lovely when not stopped and revving its tits off.

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You're not kidding mate.

Anyway, I may have had a breakthrough thanks to this helping hand on the R8 Facefart group - I know exactly what bit this is, as I was tweaking it the other day, and the stepper motor buzzed back into life almost immediately. I will lube her up (missus). I also switched out the TPS for the old one last night. On the minus side I dropped one of the air filter screws into the engine bay somewhere and haven't found it yet. It started okay and seems to sit happily at 975 rpm, but this was without being driven in anger

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Success - we now have a nearly perfect idle on the 214 - it's sat bang on 875 ish with a little wobble now and again. Just been for a long drive, mix of road types, and whilst it's still really bogged down between 0-2000 rpm due to the fucked exhaust, get it past that and it flies. 

Gear changes a lot better, now I seem to have mastered the  R65, so more likely user error than anything mechanical.

Gonna pop a new air filter on tomorrow (never did find my missing screw) and squirted loads more Plusgas on the exhaust in the feeble hope the front section will slide off neatly and allow me to put the replacement section on before tea. Yeah, right. I can see me losing enthusiasm quite quickly and getting a pro on the job.

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