Springer Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 As may have been noted elsewhere I have an interest in buying an XC90. That changed today to a real want for one. I've lost the patience and love for my A6, c6, Allroad and all it's gearbox issues, which is a shame as it was the 'perfect' package for me. WBAC can have it now as far as I care. Missed a good one 10 days ago but I;m still looking. One of slight interest just south of Glasgow, 07 plate geartronic, facelift. Serviced every year but on average 28k miles done between services. This morning a 55 plate popped up a few miles away. 118k miles and manuel flavour,,,I was much excite. Tayne duly called and we headed out. I was expecting a bucket of shite- but hoping beyond hope that it would be decent. My former thoughts were confirmed. Yeah a few wee scarpes and dings...but wouldn't have been a deal breaker. No service history and generally uncared for. It needed; new front discs and pads, centre exhaust pipe was corroded af just as it joined the very new back box. Drivers side window regulator was borked. On test drive whilst the owner was driving it I felt something wasn't right in the rev range on gear change. On driving it myself my fears were confirmed....slightly slipping clutch. Bite point on same was so high that a breath on the clutch pedal would have made it slip. I politely declined and walked away. Those are the negatives. I realised that the XC90 is a car that I'd actually very much enjoy owning. I loved the D5 engine and it's growl. It was responsive and handled like a much smoller car. Comfortable and quiet. Reality is that when I find a decent one in my meagre budget it will be a geartronic. I'd prefer maneul but they are rather rarer. I don't necessarily mind an autobox, I've had a few, but my recent trials with the A6 has rather put me off them for a while. I have a cash budget of £3k - maybe a few hundred more and don't want to be going to the other end of the country from Aberdeen to view cars that turn out to be total buckets. I'm rather hoping the SVM will put they're heads together and help me join them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrcento Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 As may have been noted elsewhere I have an interest in buying an XC90. That changed today to a real want for one. I've lost the patience and love for my A6, c6, Allroad and all it's gearbox issues, which is a shame as it was the 'perfect' package for me. WBAC can have it now as far as I care. Missed a good one 10 days ago but I;m still looking. One of slight interest just south of Glasgow, 07 plate geartronic, facelift. You're sick of Audi gearbox issues, so decide a Volvo famed for shiteing it's gearbox is the way to go? You're a braver man than me!. In all seriousness... i'd avoid anything but a manual. I like XC90 as well, very handsome and capable machines but the amount out there selling as spares due to gearbox issues (especially the geartronic) is more than telling. They only come in 2 flavours, broken or almost broken. Springer and Six-cylinder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 You're sick of Audi gearbox issues, so decide a Volvo famed for shiteing it's gearbox is the way to go? You're a braver man than me!. In all seriousness... i'd avoid anything but a manual. I like XC90 as well, very handsome and capable machines but the amount out there selling as spares due to gearbox issues (especially the geartronic) is more than telling. They only come in 2 flavours, broken or almost broken.I get exactly where your coming from. That said, there are plenty geartronics out there in diesel flava doing mental miles. The geartronic box seems to have got it's bad rep whilst mated to the petrol engine - guaranteed to go bang! That said the 'sealed for life' pish is the major downfall in any auto box.As I said, really want a manuel, but they are few and far between! There is one 60 miles away with a good history but a grand more than I can currently afford. Grrr. It's green though so best run away, lol. Your sounding a tad grumpy tonight Mrcento...have you been attracting even more utter fuckwits to your ad for the Disco??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrcento Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Sealed for life = Sealed for the life of the manufacturer warrant when new. Have seen what comes out of the auto Disco boxes when they've been flushed, it's mental they even last that long, no wonder so many go bang!. I'd honestly reckon all that have done mega miles are on their second or third box, many had theirs replaced when the vehicle itself was worth more and it was viable. As for my Disco. it's no longer advertised anywhere but here, i'm enjoying the lack of fuckwittery! Springer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Sealed for life = Sealed for the life of the manufacturer warrant when new. Have seen what comes out of the auto Disco boxes when they've been flushed, it's mental they even last that long, no wonder so many go bang!. I'd honestly reckon all that have done mega miles are on their second or third box, many had theirs replaced when the vehicle itself was worth more and it was viable. As for my Disco. it's no longer advertised anywhere but here, i'm enjoying the lack of fuckwittery!The annoying thing re the Audi is that I had its box flushed and refilled and not inconsiderable cost at Bavaria in Aberdeen last May.... it was just a tad sluggish prior to that and went down hill rapidly after that change.....hey ho. The old girl has full main dealer sh from new,,,,,just a shame that Audi didn't think to service the box equally well...wankers, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrcento Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I'm assuming as well as just flushing, they replaced the filters etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Having an audi that goes wrong is part of the privlege of owning one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 If you like the concept of the all road but hate the hassles...there is a very simple solution. Get a Subaru Outback 3.0. Better car anyway and the opposite end of the scale than both Audi and volvo for reliability issues. djim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I'm also in Aberdeenshire so if you want to meet up and have a close look at said outback happy to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Not that I'm selling mine, just so you can have a good look without seller grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 There's a few of us on here with three litre Scoobies, and they are pretty good. Not selling mine either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 My dad has a 2.5 manual Outback that he keeps mumbling about moving on sometime in the future. Not much help, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownnova Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I misread that and thought you were on the hunt for a Suzuki X90. But alas.... The Moog, Supernaut, UltraWomble and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 TBH, I'd not even looked at Subaru as I was under the impression that they were in the habit of grenading their engines in spectacular fashion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinkersaab Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 im Aberdeenshire and have a volvo xc90 coming in soon...also a love for subaru.... Springer and Supernaut 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 TBH, I'd not even looked at Subaru as I was under the impression that they were in the habit of grenading their engines in spectacular fashion? Just the diesels. im Aberdeenshire and have a volvo xc90 coming in soon...also a love for subaru.... A++ seller of Subarus. The one my dad bought from there (before I even joined this forum and knew who kinkersaab was) is still going strong a good 5-6 years later. Springer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom13 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I was looking at one but all the reviews on them were horrendous. I had never seen so many negative opinions on a single car, which made me think something must be up with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 If anyone can grenade the 3.0 Subaru they shouldn't be allowed near any car... kinkersaab, Supernaut and djim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 And indeed, I bought my legacy blind from KinkerSaab last year. Top seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 KinkerSaab got a website or something to take a look at what's available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 KinkerSaab got a website or something to take a look at what's available? I imagine a business in this day and age would have a website, yes. I think it's called Banchory Used Car Centre, but not 100% sure on the exact wording of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Ahh. Wasn't sure if pro outfit or one man band. Not KinkerSaab car emporium then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I imagine a business in this day and age would have a website, yes. Good to see sarcasm alive and well mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinkersaab Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 ~I have an i believe one owner forester 2.5 xt in pre" trying too hard style" on a 55 so cheap tax and in manual with perforated wing back leather ..a very rare beast on a 126k and had rear inner arch grot done... its a little frilly on edges and looks like it needs love. Is coming from typical subaruie in his 70's old gentleman from money type ….. Springer, Supernaut and DVee8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyG Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 There are different flavours of the Geartronic autobox.One was sourced from GM and modified by Volvo, this variant is prone to failure. The other was the Aisin Warner gearbox, which came with 5 or 6 gears depending on age, these are more reliable. The T6 had a reputation for eating gearboxes. i have an 04 XC90 D5 with AW gearbox, 5 gears. Bought it 8 years ago,I love it, solid, comfortable, good fuel consumption for a big SUV. the only trouble I've experienced is with the lock up solenoid when towing with a heavy load and uphill (I tow a few times a year). This causes crap fuel consumption and loss of the cruise control and manual gear selection function.The fault unlatches once the ignition is turned off and on again and the gearbox service required message can be turned off with an ELM327 OBD tool. Much cheaper than buying a new gearbox. Other similar AW gearboxes can be found in the Porsche Cayenne and other "up market" marques. outlaw118 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 How does one tell the difference between gearboxes?I'm not in the market for an XC90 just yet but I am tempted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 im Aberdeenshire and have a volvo xc90 coming in soon...also a love for subaru....Let me know if that XC90 comes in, may well be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djim Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 +1 for checking out an Outback if a suitable Ovlov doesn't show up. I've the 3litre and it has been tediously reliable at all haulage duties while retaining a hefty dose of GLF when you want it. High tax bracket mind. Lanciaman and Springer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanciaman Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Mine high tax as well. But then no dmf clutch at £££s, no cambelt crap, no dpf crap, no crap bosch electric components that go fizz 2 mins out of warranty. High tax, which lets face it is 20 quid a month more than anything you'd want to drive anyway , is well worth it. Springer and djim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 +1 for checking out an Outback if a suitable Ovlov doesn't show up. I've the 3litre and it has been tediously reliable at all haulage duties while retaining a hefty dose of GLF when you want it. High tax bracket mind. I'm used to being raped for road tax with the A6!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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