Junkman Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just to add to the debate I think '86 cut off is too early. Sometime in the 90's is better for me as a modern European car is anything with an airbag ? There was also a real watershed moment when Rover went bust so maybe DR (During Rover) and AR (After Rover)? Although up to 1986 cars were made and from then on only newfangled tosh, I suggest no age related separation at all, apart from the one we already have with the modernz section.What I find important though is a separate for sale/wanted section and sections for people writing about their own cars and for general automotive chat. In short, I find the grouping suggestion the mods have made quite sensible. lesapandre, Magnificent Rustbucket, Ghosty and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I'll second that. Yes any cut off is arbitary - bit like all the pseudo 'debate' over what is a 'classic car' etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 A classic car is one that isn't affordable by the common man anymore. HMC, Lacquer Peel and Joey spud 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 What's a common man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 ? Dick Longbridge, twosmoke300, Joey spud and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Nah that's Jarvis, he makes a living out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2_craig Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I must have missed what happened in 1986. Chernobyl? Dick Longbridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 They stopped making cars, according to junkman egg and Dick Longbridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I was born in the year they stopped making cars. I'm not sure about Junkman's arbitrary cut off, he seems like a 405 fan and they were introduced in 1987. Lord Sterling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I must have missed what happened in 1986. Chernobyl? I was born. Clearly that is what caused the world to bugger up. GrumpiusMaximus, Cavcraft and The Moog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshome Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 No hard cutoff years please. Look at my 2002 Zafira, to me it's not shite, bought new, never gave any troubles, its still a new car in my eyes. Same car beaten by 10 owners and then bought by a shiter for a few pennies would certainly be considered as shite here. On the other side, the 504 GL is likely by most people here considered as a classic, but i dont see it like this. I have been driving 504's forever, it's a daily driver that has to function, no more. The car only gets minimum maintenance, i dont care that the doors have a different shade of blue and if it needs welding, then cheap and quick is good enough. Use meaningful names for the sections and let people decide themselves where a car or project fits best. Lacquer Peel and The Moog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I'm of the opinion that too many threads will require too heavy a hand for moderation and will probably lead to questions like "my car was built 19xx but registered 19yy, what do I do?" I don't see any reason why by the current split isn't working, with the extra sections purposed for those who want a little heat with their post. We had a similar arrangement on another forum and it seemed to work well. Though, we never managed a collective 200 pages arguing about it either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burraston2006 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 What's a common man?Isn't he the man on the Clapham omnibus?! ( I'm sure this is what the ordinary man is described as in law-could be making this up though!) The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I think that a project section and cars for sale section would help considerably. Just my opinionz. Cavcraft and strangeangel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Perhaps projects should be left on main board though Ken as they should fall in the main target audience, so to speak? strangeangel, coalnotdole, Skizzer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveDorson Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I think car related stuff including projects should go in one place if you feel the need to split it out. Putting stuff for sale and wanted in a separate place doesn't really need happen, but I don't tend to look in the merged threads when I'm after something if I'm honest. Like a lot of folks I read titles and only take a look inside if it's going not interest me. And we're all getting older. A MK3 Mondeo is still considered brand new to some folks, but they're sub £1000 bangers now so they should sit firmly in shite territory. It's 2019 for fucks sake. Cavcraft, red5 and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantingYoof Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 A ten year rule would see the earliest XFs being eligible for shite status depending on its kwalitee... Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRi05 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 What's a common man? Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davocano Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 By some remarkable coincidence, my hi-fi is currently playing "Come Together" by Primal Scream. I really, really like autoshite.com On the subject of "moving forward", may I suggest a "Spottings" sub-section. Thanking you for your consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 A ten year rule would see the earliest XFs being eligible for shite status depending on its kwalitee... Sent from my GT-I9505 using TapatalkXFs have always been shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantingYoof Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 XFs have always been shite.*gasps* A fence has been taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 *gasps* A fence has been taken.Well it's always somewhere to sit. The Moog, rantingYoof and M'coli 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Is this a referendum? Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Don't anyone tell AnthonyG that the Jag he's bringing to SF19 actually IS shite now! HMC and Ghosty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Where's our Stock car goin?Escort Mk1, Cortina mk3, Capri Ghia, Mondeo mk2,+ new chassis!Oh and is my Minor shite or Classic?What about my 75? That's quite nice actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 *gasps* A fence has been taken. I take a fence every time I see one, what a shame such a great marque has fallen so far (please tell me you don’t have one) rantingYoof 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantingYoof Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I take a fence every time I see one, what a shame such a great marque has fallen so far (please tell me you don’t have one)Nah. My dad has one. I like how it looks and goes (3.0 turbo diesel) but it's moving firmly into high liability territory. GrumpiusMaximus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Nah. My dad has one. I like how it looks and goes (3.0 turbo diesel) but it's moving firmly into high liability territory. Our ex boss had one when he retired, cost nearly as much in repairs in two years as it cost to buy it. And the ride was shite. It was only four years old too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New POD Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 A classic car is one that isn't affordable by the common man anymore.Whereas Autoshite is one that is now affordable by weird uncommon man. Mally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianRetro Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 In amongst all the vile name-calling and the cesspit of abuse that is the Dark Wob, a classic car was described as a car that the neighbours were envious of. Shite was described as a car that the neighbours despise and a modern was a car that the neighbours didn't notice. I may be paraphrasing slightly, but I thought it was a decent definition. Marm Toastsmith, FakeConcern, chaseracer and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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