garethj Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 What looks like a Gentry kit car but is perhaps impossible to register. Listed as “garage find” but to be perfectly honest I don’t think it took much searching once you made a start. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134520018482?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=9UMgZQ-lQoC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=y9xs1hiVQ9O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Quote Vanden Plas 1.7 Series 3 Protoype https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155496887927?hash=item2434563677:g:FXgAAOSwwohkMzj8 Cavcraft, grogee, Shite Ron and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Earrings Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, garethj said: The owner sounds like a swivel-eyed loon, but otherwise this could be good - diesel Audi 80 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385536179991?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=V0rFVhDmQCm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=y9xs1hiVQ9O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Doesn’t look bad although he mentions the negative being the interior and helpfully doesn’t show a single interior picture 😂 not sure how much he’s after though, he doesn’t mention exactly the price he’s after whatsoever….. garethj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Quote Stunning Quote Stunning Quote Snorchel Quote stunning https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256039481152 RoverFolkUs, Cavcraft, Aston Martin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, garethj said: What looks like a Gentry kit car but is perhaps impossible to register. Listed as “garage find” but to be perfectly honest I don’t think it took much searching once you made a start. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134520018482?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=9UMgZQ-lQoC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=y9xs1hiVQ9O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY morbid curiosity got the better of me so I checked and its registered already, or should I say still retains the Identity of the 1954 Morris Minor I presume it was was constructed from? tis correctly registered as a Convertible at least LOL Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesacosa Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, D.E said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155496887927?hash=item2434563677:g:FXgAAOSwwohkMzj8 These four prototypes differ from the production models by having a handmade front bumper assembly and a chromium plated rear Allegro Series 3 bumper, which sadly, were not carried forward for the production models. Yea, ok not convinced M9 Remspoor and Wibble 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 56 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said: morbid curiosity got the better of me so I checked and its registered already, or should I say still retains the Identity of the 1954 Morris Minor I presume it was was constructed from? tis correctly registered as a Convertible at least LOL The advert says that it’s just a numberplate sitting close to the car, not that it’s registered with it. Bizarre! A Morris Minor has a monocoque construction and this has a ladder frame so it would be quite a stretch to say it’s the same car? Remspoor and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, garethj said: The advert says that it’s just a numberplate sitting close to the car, not that it’s registered with it. Bizarre! Yeah but the VIN plate nailed screwed to the side of the car is another matter 39 minutes ago, garethj said: A Morris Minor has a monocoque construction and this has a ladder frame so it would be quite a stretch to say it’s the same car? indeed thats why I worded things how I did, however the whole identity thing, really depends on when exactly it was constructed back in the 1980's and before times, rules concerning kit cars where a lot more relaxed then they are now for example IIRC in the early 80's you only really needed the axels from a donor car and it could still retain the donor cars original identity! (although usually you would change the vehicle make/model on the logbook to whichever the kit car was, but not always, seen a good few Lomax's registered as 2CV's still for example) so this may seem quite dodgy at first but could be well be completely legitimate or it could be completely dodgy still, nothing stops someone pinching the VIN plate from a Morris Minor and nailing it to the side of their MG lookalike kit car LOL as an aside note on the Morris Minor Monocoque thing, I seem to recall reading Travellers or at least the Utility variants (Van/pickup) did have separate chassis still? so could it be built upon one of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdkrc Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Diesel Rayton Fissore Magnum pickup. https://www.subito.it/auto/x-x-419036983.htm Aston Martin, egg, Remspoor and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pastry Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, LightBulbFun said: as an aside note on the Morris Minor Monocoque thing, I seem to recall reading Travellers or at least the Utility variants (Van/pickup) did have separate chassis still? so could it be built upon one of those? The Minor van/pickup had a separate chassis, but the Traveller used basically the saloon platform. The kit car looks to have a Triumph engine etc. but I don't think it's a Gentry, which IIRC had an aluminium body and was a lot better proportioned, and could be mistaken for the real thing. As you say it may have been legitimately registered at the time, when it was all a bit of a grey area and it often depended on what the builder told the LVLO. Bit of an odd one. And not worth wasting time on, because it will never be quite right, IMO. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeEP Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 11 hours ago, D.E said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155496887927?hash=item2434563677:g:FXgAAOSwwohkMzj8 9 hours ago, High Jetter said: These four prototypes differ from the production models by having a handmade front bumper assembly and a chromium plated rear Allegro Series 3 bumper, which sadly, were not carried forward for the production models. Yea, ok not convinced M9 It may sound unlikely, but it's totally true! I have known the seller for 25 years and can vouch for him, not that anyone on here is likely to want to buy it. I was also at the Gaydon auction he mentions where one of the other prototypes sold; another friend wanted to buy it but it went above their budget. sdkrc, egg, D.E and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeEP Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 "Rusty" https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1913461152348524 garethj, Fumbler, Rust Collector and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, BeEP said: "Rusty" https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1913461152348524 HFM??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Not ideal Good rear wheel stance https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/265935265765398 sdkrc, garethj, wuvvum and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdkrc Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, cort16 said: Scotland is like Auschwitz for Mazdas. Reminds me of this Punto that collapsed after the most minor of speed bumps near my gaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 This is nice, the lack of rusty front wings and huge hole in the drivers seat makes me nervous For seating the children you don't like https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304116172904 DSdriver, Wibble, GR8 PL8 M8 and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schaefft Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, cort16 said: This is nice, the lack of rusty front wings and huge hole in the drivers seat makes me nervous For seating the children you don't like https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304116172904 Judging by the steering wheel and wheels(neither of which are cheap) someone must have loved the car. Easily understandable considering it's the best color you could get these in. Erebus and pilninggas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Those rear facing seats are for Spaniels, not children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Schaefft said: Judging by the steering wheel and wheels(neither of which are cheap) someone must have loved the car. Easily understandable considering it's the best color you could get these in. Japanese Import.... Hence the spec, and condition. 1993 and Imported 2017 - So lasted in Japan for a long time - Given their draconian roadworthiness laws, I'm not surprised at the condition! pilninggas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schaefft Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Volksy said: Japanese Import.... Hence the spec, and condition. 1993 and Imported 2017 - So lasted in Japan for a long time - Given their draconian roadworthiness laws, I'm not surprised at the condition! In that case it's an absolute steal! pilninggas and Erebus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Schaefft said: In that case it's an absolute steal! Yeh, I'd say it's possibly one of the best - despite the mileage. Sadly I don't have £2600! Erebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 These are starting look almost funky Cavcraft, 500tops, Wibble and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I quite like the look of this as a ULEZ family wagon but the advisories and weird things wrong with it are sapping my enthusiasm. Quote This car is absolutely SOLID and original and has never been welded with only a scab or so in pics that can be treated. I brought this a basically rust free Lies! Cavcraft, Flat4, w00dy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 12:25 PM, SiC said: Looking at the sellers other profile, this smells of a scam. I think they've changed tact on how they do it. It is a scam. Messaged them, first reply pinged the radar, the next one set all the lights flashing. One of those 'I'm away from home/secure delivery/Escrow/Paypal pay after delivery/yadda yadda yadda' things. Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Barn Find Project Alvis Ta14 project | eBay 'No I'd' ...rather skip naked through the lions enclosure at Knowsley Safari Park? UltraWomble, garethj, Remspoor and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, Cavcraft said: It is a scam. Messaged them, first reply pinged the radar, the next one set all the lights flashing. One of those 'I'm away from home/secure delivery/Escrow/Paypal pay after delivery/yadda yadda yadda' things. They've gotten clever. It's legit looking enough that it'll fool people - fooled me for sure. But also hard for eBay to know to delete it. If you try contacting them, eBay asks for phone number and post code. I bet they'll reuse the post code on any future listing scams. On an Facebook scam, they used my surname on a listing a few days on with a new account. Problem is, there is a lot of sellers out there on eBay who say "10% deposit within 24hrs" or such bollocks. So people will be used to sending money before seeing cars. I wonder if eBay will clamp down with that in listings. Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 honda sh125 an oldie but totally reliable | eBay '...old age has caught up with me (81) Totally reliable,a pleasure to ride' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, SiC said: They've gotten clever. It's legit looking enough that it'll fool people - fooled me for sure. But also hard for eBay to know to delete it. If you try contacting them, eBay asks for phone number and post code. I bet they'll reuse the post code on any future listing scams. On an Facebook scam, they used my surname on a listing a few days on with a new account. Problem is, there is a lot of sellers out there on eBay who say "10% deposit within 24hrs" or such bollocks. So people will be used to sending money before seeing cars. I wonder if eBay will clamp down with that in listings. Reporting it will probably do eff all, too, as to all intents and purposes it looks like a legit listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 hours ago, BeEP said: It may sound unlikely, but it's totally true! I have known the seller for 25 years and can vouch for him, not that anyone on here is likely to want to buy it. I was also at the Gaydon auction he mentions where one of the other prototypes sold; another friend wanted to buy it but it went above their budget. That bootlid badge looks odd to me. I didn't think the Allegro 3 was ever sold with the 1098 engine - I thought that was replaced with the 998cc A+ when the Allegro went plastic-bumpered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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