wesacosa Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 https://m.facebook.com/groups/390896610925969/permalink/4383351495013774/ willswitchengage, michael t, Cavcraft and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 hours ago, R1152 said: I must confess I am very uneasy about this MoT exemption business - sure, I bet those who watch Roadkill/Vice Grip Garage etc. love how something gets hauled out of a scrappy and driven away with huge holes in the floor and of a standard akin to the Jag in Withnail and I, but I don't want one of these pricks barrelling into the back/side of me because their brake pipes exploded under pressure. I once asked about this on an American channel and the response I got was "it's called freedom, you Europeans should try it sometime". What a load of bollocks. The data actually says accidents are far more likely to be human error than mechanical malfunction. By an order of magnitude. Also in a classic car, you're all too aware that a moderate sized accident that you'd survive in a modern, will leave you disabled or dead. NorfolkNWeigh and Dick Longbridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Laurence Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 7 hours ago, cort16 said: mot'd £2500 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-504-GL-Diesel-Pickup-Tow-Bar-Removable-Canopy-Liner/294030896138?hash=item44759b6c0a:g:w3YAAOSwpupgNOE3 You could still get one of these on a J reg?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New POD Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, SiC said: What a load of bollocks. The data actually says accidents are far more likely to be human error than mechanical malfunction. By an order of magnitude. Also in a classic car, you're all too aware that a moderate sized accident that you'd survive in a modern, will leave you disabled or dead. We actually don't have enough data. We don't know how many miles are travelled by cars which have a serious fault. If we assume that the vast majority of cars are more or less road worthy. Then the number of miles travelled by cars that are road worthy might be exponentially bigger than the miles travelled by unroadworthy vehicles. And even when you have.an accident, it's rare that the car is inspected very deeply. So.my guess with no real data, is that of course 99.99999999999999999% of accidents are down to human error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I could be incredibly facetious and suggest that an accident caused by a mechanical failure is still caused by human error. That would be because the human who owns it failed to maintain it properly, thus it's their error. I wouldn't suggest that though, I'm only suggesting that I might suggest that. As others have said though, some demographics of modern car owners are somewhat unnerving too. It's scary how many sub 3-year old finance spec crossovers you see with a bald tyre or two. Staying on thread though. Frisbee the trims but otherwise phwoooaaaar! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1978-Mazda-1300-1-3-3dr-ORIGINAL-THROUGHOUT-LOW-MILES-72K/154345627569 Austat, Dick Longbridge, Remspoor and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko220 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, SiC said: The data actually says accidents are far more likely to be human error than mechanical malfunction That’s probably because the vast majority of vehicles on the road have to pass an MOT test. strangeangel and Marina door handles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 From a purely practical basis, most pre-1980 cars are hardly ever driven and are driven by people who care lots for their vehicle and do not treat it as something expendable. Classic insurance doesn't really give the same like-for-like benefits that it does if you drive the same 2017 Fiesta as everybody else. Plus MoT testing becomes more difficult / pointless with vehicle age as there is hardly anything for the inspector to actually look at. Working lights and brakes are pretty much the only safety features worth assessing on vintage vehicles. Skizzer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Check out the minty fresh interior in this! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-G-Nissan-Micra-K10-1-0-GS-5dr-LOVELY-CAR-GENUINE-MILEAGE-12-MONTH-MOT/393143911310 Disco Fever, michael t, SteersWithThrottle and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Currently cheap, but still got a week of bidding to go. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-NISSAN-300-ZX-2-2-AUTO-full-service-history-all-MOTs-and-Tax-Discs/353399308545 But, look at the interior! Absolutely glorious. willswitchengage, bogeyhead, MorrisItalSLX and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Will be bought by someone who thinks a cable tied bumper is the height of sophistication for eleventy million yen. BlankFrank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Cheap Sandero https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2963168350577696 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lincoln-continental/254875565828 Quote A true head turner! Desirable and popular Suicide Door Continental on air-ride. This is a very clean, un-molested original car that has had a few custom touches added. Quote un-molested Quote original Quote Starting bid: £30,000.00 Spurious, BlankFrank, SteersWithThrottle and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 This, however, is absolute filth. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1970-CHRYSLER-NEWPORT/224359460929 I even like the wheels, as cliche as they are. Remspoor, cort1977, Disco Fever and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Polo-MK2-Genesis-Bread-Van-NEEDS-ENGINE-WORK/114704212596?hash=item1ab4e76274:g:dggAAOSw4UVgN~G3 Lightly pineappled breadbin with HGF, but six months' MOT, low miles, and pretty straight. I know where this is from the pics, and it's not far away. I'll nab it if it's cheap, tow rope it home and fix it, as they're £silly when they work. Remspoor, spartacus, Skizzer and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig the Princess Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ghosty said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Polo-MK2-Genesis-Bread-Van-NEEDS-ENGINE-WORK/114704212596?hash=item1ab4e76274:g:dggAAOSw4UVgN~G3 Lightly pineappled breadbin with HGF, but six months' MOT, low miles, and pretty straight. I know where this is from the pics, and it's not far away. I'll nab it if it's cheap, tow rope it home and fix it, as they're £silly when they work. Will it be Björn again? wuvvum, Ghosty and Cavcraft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesacosa Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/249233730191834/ Mr Laurence, willswitchengage, Shite Ron and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1152 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 hours ago, SiC said: Also in a classic car, you're all too aware that a moderate sized accident that you'd survive in a modern, will leave you disabled or dead. As a close friend of mine discovered when his Riley Nine was hit from behind - he survived but his wife died. I also struggle to equate "classic car" with something 40 years old - to me anyway, that's still "banger" territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Remote control recovery truck 1973 ROLLS ROYCE SILVER SHADOW 1, REG LOW MILEAGE 56K, BLUE PROJECT | eBay *Although you're the high bidder on this item, the reserve price hasn't been met yet. yannbeam, willswitchengage, spartacus and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Suspiciously-not-quite-close-enoughly-photographed Proton Clusterfuck 2006 PROTON JUMBUCK GL 1.5 PICK UP VERY RARE PX WELCOME CAN DELIVER AT COST | eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Ford Transit Fire Engine 1998 2.5 diesel barn find low miles 12869 | eBay They've even handily wiped the speedo to what it'll do flat out willswitchengage, BlankFrank and Wilko220 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 peugot 205 1.8 diesel | eBay willswitchengage and Remspoor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 SSANGYONG RODIUS 270 SE 2.7CDI BLACK 2009, 12 MONTHS MOT, ,, 7 SEATER ,, | eBay Just as hideous as ever. Remspoor and bogeyhead 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Cavcraft said: SSANGYONG RODIUS 270 SE 2.7CDI BLACK 2009, 12 MONTHS MOT, ,, 7 SEATER ,, | eBay Just as hideous as ever. GR8 4 CAMPAAA VAN M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 12 hours ago, barrett said: I'd be much more worried about the thousands of people who drive modern cars without MoT, tax or insurance simply because they casn't be bothered/don't care about breaking the law Oh dear my little ditty earlier seems to have caused some debate. Firstly, the likelihood of any car simply being pressed straight back into service after standing for more than even a few years is very low. Even ignoring basic safety items the amount of perishable rubber alone that would need addressing is a few days work minimum. If the brakes haven't been used in a while they'll soon start binding and you'll need to do them anyway plus in truth, if you drive something older than 1980 you're probably into cars and would do such things anyway as let's face it most mot exempt stuff now will have required some enthusiasm to be even still moving 40+ years on. As for the above quote only this week I was talking my beloved Chester out for his walk when a 17/18 plate tiguan thing tried to swing around outside my house and came to a clattering stop. She tried turning it over about 6 times to no avail. Went over to help and she said "it's OK, I've run out of diesel, but I can't get the steering lock or handbrake off"!!! She was trying to move it with the door open hence as MOD-REN cars do, the handbrake goes on automatically. I explained and pushed her across the road to safety when I noticed on the dash that it was 20k overdue a service, there was a brake malfunction, low pad warning light on and every tyre looked either bald or like they'd been on it for a number of years with bad tracking as the inside of one of the front was canvas. I dare say it's never been even for its 1st mot but it's already fucked, certainly dangerous with the tyres yet the likelihood of her being stopped unless doing something daft is pretty much zero. Try doing that in a 1980 mk3 escort and see how quick the filth pull you over. Skizzer, Yoss, Spurious and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston Martin Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Didn't know it existed. Vantman and Disco Fever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Fearn Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Surely that Maxima is a late registration madness machine?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 LOVE the colour scheme going on here- maximum Tonka. It's a bit leggy but seems relatively cheap for one of the 4x4 ones... maybe @Jim Bell or @Aston Martin can tell me if this is major VALU or not Aston Martin, Supernaut, garethj and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Fabergé Greggs said: LOVE the colour scheme going on here- maximum Tonka. It's a bit leggy but seems relatively cheap for one of the 4x4 ones... maybe @Jim Bell or @Aston Martin can tell me if this is major VALU or not That does look stylish and impressive. Not sure on value. They seem to me bouncing around at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Basically a new car. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Corolla-mint-condition-19k-miles/393161804079?hash=item5b8a45092f:g:3TAAAOSwtW1gOn5c Cheap too considering how reliable these are in the first place. Supernaut, 500tops, puddlethumper and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Not sure if this was even acceptable in the 80's https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373478660697?ul_noapp=true SteersWithThrottle and Shite Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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