SiC Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Yes, proving the regs are indeed complex. I imagine the type approval regime that Ford/Volvo had to go through to get this rubber stamped is somewhat more rigorous than an SVA inspection.If your XC90 goes all skynet and kills you/third parties then Ford/Volvo will ultimately be liable, if it's a system failure.If your home-made and unapproved Franken-Citroen decides that one engine needs to be in first gear and the other in reverse, ripping the car in half and killing/injuring/embarrassing you/third parties, you'll be the one residing at Her Majesty's pleasure. Assuming you survive.None of what you have said backs up your point that a twin engined vehicle driving different axles is illegal and/or against C&U Regs? All you've said is read the regs... If you're going to make a statement as fact, you have to back it up. Otherwise it's pure speculation. Mr_Bo11ox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/316804802855213 Minimad5, eddyramrod, Remspoor and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bezzabsa Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, egg said: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/316804802855213 OOF.....this is why i need a garage.....and money, lots of money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 You and me both! But not that one. It claims to be a 1961 but only the front half fits that. The fins, lights and bumper at the back are all 57-60. Also, that LPG tank sits where the petrol tank should, so where is the petrol tank now? egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteersWithThrottle Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, SiC said: None of what you have said backs up your point that a twin engined vehicle driving different axles is illegal and/or against C&U Regs? All you've said is read the regs... If you're going to make a statement as fact, you have to back it up. Otherwise it's pure speculation. I'm saying that particular vehicle isn't road legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, SteersWithThrottle said: I'm saying that particular vehicle isn't road legal. No you didn't. You said... 6 hours ago, SteersWithThrottle said: afaik it's not legal to drive a twin engine car on public roads, unless they connect to a common transmission or somesuch. I've just read through the latest IVA manual and C&U Regs 1986 with subsequent revisions right to 2020. I see zero mention on twin engine, multiple power sources and/or which axles can or can not be powered. Also I see nothing that would even be close to a twin engine vehicle being a problem. Feel to prove me wrong with hard evidence either with the regs or any court decisions. spartacus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 There's nothing intrinsically illegal about having 2 engines. Obviously the law might have something to say about a badly built dangerous car or one whose insurance is not valid, but those are different problems from simply having 2 separate engines. Asimo, Andyrew and spartacus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Nissan Prairie | eBay willswitchengage, MorrisItalSLX and mk2_craig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hats off to anyone who builds a twin engined car and sees it through to the end. Most of the twin or rear engine 'conversions' seem to consist of an advert saying 'all the hard work has been done.' The 'hard work' consisting of borrowing an engine hoist and literally dropping some rusty old boat anchor into the hole. SteersWithThrottle, spartacus, DSdriver and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cavcraft said: Hats off to anyone who builds a twin engined car and sees it through to the end. Most of the twin or rear engine 'conversions' seem to consist of and advert saying 'all the hard work has been done.' The 'hard work' consisting of borrowing an engine hoist and literally dropping some rusty old boat anchor into the hole. To be fair, there was a lot of that bitd. I can see the point re. the SVA or whatever it is these days with regards to that particular vehicle but I'm quite sure that there's a way in which you could build a car with two engines and gearboxes and drive it on UK roads legally. ETA, what a pleasure to have a 'pub' type discussion with fellow enthusiasts without it turning into a slagging match. That's why I like this place.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 These never seem to fetch much money, they seem to have all the appeal of one of those Golden Crumpet Badger Illustrious Teaspoon 125cc scooters that are rusting away in your neighbour's garden.   Velocette LE Mk3 1961 200cc vintage British classic | eBay  *Watch lists. 95 quid Peugeot, Fat_Pirate, Asimo and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Like Rover R8's, I wonder if we will ever run out of K11 Micras? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/837750010391691 Mr Laurence and mk2_craig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Laurence Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, egg said: Like Rover R8's, I wonder if we will ever run out of K11 Micras? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/837750010391691 I hope we never run out of either! A 1.0 auto can’t be very fast though Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 14/12/2020 at 09:28, Yoss said: So approach with caution but it still seems a pretty good price. Good ones are going around the £6k mark at the moment. Pre face-lift too so it has the better interior. The seats aren't real leather but after 55 years that's not a bad thing, they're nice seats. And it has the white dials so another plus. Strange paint effect around the front arches suggests work there so study carefully (the front arches are double skinned so you can't get to the back of them). Would still consider that if I was looking for another one. Especially when things like this are going on: Couple more pics added of the one in Margate, it is one colour... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/870697967048230/ Amishtat, DSdriver, Cavcraft and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Very 90's looking Chevette. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1101840163583694/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined MorrisItalSLX, Tenmil Socket, LightBulbFun and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Far as I know at one time it was often said only one engine could be running ( but I don't think there's an actual law your breaking having both powering a vehicle simultaneously) ergo what about the several twini mokes & minis built by BMC? Cavcraft and spartacus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSdriver Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, sheffcortinacentre said: Far as I know at one time it was often said only one engine could be running ( but I don't think there's an actual law your breaking having both powering a vehicle simultaneously) ergo what about the several twini mokes & minis built by BMC? Citroen made a 2CV with 2 engines, they can be identified by the fuel filler half way along the nearside as the fuel tank was under the front seats. Just don't drop your Gauloises whilst driving! Somebody more knowledgeable than I will be along shortly to tell us what they were called. spartacus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 @task's mate just bought one, and he should really sign up here! task 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Laurence Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, DSdriver said: Citroen made a 2CV with 2 engines, they can be identified by the fuel filler half way along the nearside as the fuel tank was under the front seats. Just don't drop your Gauloises whilst driving! Somebody more knowledgeable than I will be along shortly to tell us what they were called. The Sahara? DSdriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcpete Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mr Laurence said: The Sahara? That's the one, bloody expensive now though! https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-4379810/Twin-engine-Citroen-2CV-Sahara-sells-68-000.html  Mr Laurence and DSdriver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17-Coffees Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I'm in love*... Low mileage slush box, epic colour and interior is just oh so 'offt'. Add in the price of just £690. Mhmmm Yes please! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10913329?cId=10846677&cId=10957912&cId=10683950&cId=10158394&cId=10995524&cId=11053772&cId=11086908&cId=10690040&cId=11039490&cId=10931277&cId=11070691&cId=10977640&cId=11046874&cId=11103554&cId=11039918&cId=11064436&cId=10913329&cId=10762098&cId=11071844&cId=10596769 Cavcraft, davehedgehog31 and Remspoor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 This plonker is still going, selling cheap chod, must be on about his 17th account by now. Still as racist as ever and his feedback is a sight to behold - I'm tempted to bid on one of his cars and then not turn up, just to see if I can get him to call me a "tossar". Remspoor, Supernaut, Fat_Pirate and 5 others 1 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, wuvvum said: This plonker is still going, selling cheap chod, must be on about his 17th account by now. Still as racist as ever and his feedback is a sight to behold - I'm tempted to bid on one of his cars and then not turn up, just to see if I can get him to call me a "tossar".  or a dossar Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 C4 with issues, but still running and MOT'd with a recent cambelt so £250 BIN looks like a barg. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Phwoar: https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/TOYOTA/CORONA/700090371130180717001/index.html PHWOAR: https://www.beforward.jp/mazda/luce/bh508435/id/2038306/ PHWWOOOOAAAAAARRRRR, MUCH WANT: https://www.beforward.jp/toyota/carina/bh614782/id/2146415/?tp_country_id= DSdriver, Mr Laurence, vulgalour and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, wuvvum said: This plonker is still going, selling cheap chod, must be on about his 17th account by now. Still as racist as ever and his feedback is a sight to behold - I'm tempted to bid on one of his cars and then not turn up, just to see if I can get him to call me a "tossar".  Jesus wept, it's impossible to imagine anyone doing business with them. Perhaps they don't they, as the Saab sold twice and both left good feedback. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 8 hours ago, egg said: Couple more pics added of the one in Margate, it is one colour... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/870697967048230/ Looks like he's polished it. There are less external shots now but the ones that are there are shinier. Previously the front arches showed an arc of darker paint around them which is why I mentioned them. That's one less job to do I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Cavcraft said: Jesus wept, it's impossible to imagine anyone doing business with them. Perhaps they don't they, as the Saab sold twice and both left good feedback. There's something very Trump like in his use of ALL OF THE CAPS! Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horriblemercedes Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 6 hours ago, wuvvum said: This plonker is still going, selling cheap chod, must be on about his 17th account by now. Still as racist as ever and his feedback is a sight to behold - I'm tempted to bid on one of his cars and then not turn up, just to see if I can get him to call me a "tossar". I don't get people like this. In order to make a point, he has alienated the swathes of people (like me) who boycott spiteful, petty xenophobes Cavcraft, DSdriver and Remspoor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhatfoolish Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 What lies beneath gives me The Fear, but mega barg none-the-less at 1500 BINs including a spares wreck. BlankFrank, Tenmil Socket and Austat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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