Skizzer Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The MOT history suggests the original 2.8 CIH blew up mid-test in 2013. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Also says it’s a Vauxhall Monza! Skizzer, BorniteIdentity and Remspoor 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort1977 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Skizzer said: No MOT though, and I’m not convinced its exempt, being modified. Is that right? I thought it was only based on the age, how would dvla decide how much modification was too much to be exempt if the registration remains the same? Edit: apologies, you're right, there's a whole 'substantial changes' clause that applies for engine swaps etc. However, "alternative cubic capacities of the same basic engine and alternative original equipment engines are not considered to be a substantial change" is the later 3.0 the same basic engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 I don't think they did a 2.8 CIH. They did 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 four cylinders but I think the six was always 3 litres. I think the blocks are broadly similar - there was a fella in the North West doing a 16v head for a Manta by cutting down a 24v head. That was maybe twenty years ago now and I don't know if he ever finished it. Skizzer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbo Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Cheap van?? 12 months mot with no advisory’s Ultra funky interior £495 https://www.gumtree.com/p/citroen/citreon-belingo-1.4-multispace-12-months-mot-/1376026256 somewhatfoolish, Burnside, vulgalour and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 That's perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kringle Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Brittas empire seats, noice. Semi-C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NorfolkNWeigh Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Sir Snipes said: I don't think they did a 2.8 CIH. They did 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 four cylinders but I think the six was always 3 litres. I think the blocks are broadly similar - there was a fella in the North West doing a 16v head for a Manta by cutting down a 24v head. That was maybe twenty years ago now and I don't know if he ever finished it. The 2.8 CIH was the carb option for Senators and Royales in saloon or Coupe flavour. I think ,in the U.K. anyway, Monzas we’re always 3.0 Injections. There was also a 2.5 CIH found in carb form in Commodores and Viceroys and later in injection form in Senators . Presumably the 2.6 in Carltons and later Senators was also the CIH . Skizzer, Sir Snipes and Stevebrookman 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Laurence Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 £3600 is an awful lot to spend on an R8, this looks perfect, and it is pretty much my perfect spec https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-Rover-220-GSI-Excellent-Condition-Low-Miles-42k/153960031995 Stevebrookman, 155V6, scdan4 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 €2250: https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/opel-kadett-sedan-c1-1-2-benzine-groen-e1c50ea8-43db-c277-e053-0100007fa7e1?cldtidx=19&cldtsrc=listPage meggersdog, Mr Laurence, BL Bloke and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1793460283.htm/ outlaw118, scdan4, 155V6 and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Mitsubishi Tredia, one for the "Cars you didn't know existed until very recently" thread. €1000: https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mitsubishi-tredia-1-6-gls-automaat-benzine-zilver-7647d7e6-8180-4f3f-81b3-e0bb0e9a7a0b?cldtidx=19&cldtsrc=listPage 500tops, Mr Laurence, MorrisItalSLX and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 €1499: https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mitsubishi-galant-glx-benzine-blauw-da1dc69d-34db-c36e-e053-e250040a62d4?cldtidx=7&cldtsrc=listPage MorrisItalSLX and Semi-C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 9 hours ago, NorfolkNWeigh said: The 2.8 CIH was the carb option for Senators and Royales in saloon or Coupe flavour. I think ,in the U.K. anyway, Monzas we’re always 3.0 Injections. There was also a 2.5 CIH found in carb form in Commodores and Viceroys and later in injection form in Senators . Presumably the 2.6 in Carltons and later Senators was also the CIH . Wow I either didn't know or had forgotten how many variants of the CIH they did back then! Let's list them; 1.3, 1.6, 1.9, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 (4-pots) 2.5, 2.6, 2.8, 3.0 (6 cyl) Can we count the Lotus as a very heavily revised/distant relative? How about the Manta 400 16v? dome and Stevebrookman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Crispy SD1 2300, £230 so far: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-Rover-SD1-2300-Barn-Find-Restoration-Project-Showing-70-000-Miles/224051711595?hash=item342a85ce6b:g:nlMAAOSwT1Re7d3u Shite Ron, MorrisItalSLX, Wilko220 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shite Ron Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-panda/184335441730?hash=item2aeb3f9f42:g:qigAAOSwCf9e7l-s MorrisItalSLX and Austat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Sir Snipes said: Wow I either didn't know or had forgotten how many variants of the CIH they did back then! Let's list them; 1.3, 1.6, 1.9, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 (4-pots) 2.5, 2.6, 2.8, 3.0 (6 cyl) Can we count the Lotus as a very heavily revised/distant relative? How about the Manta 400 16v? Yes the 3.6 is a stretched 24v CIH , also I think some Bitters had a 4.0 version . There were a couple of 4.0 Senator 24v s for sale recently on eBay or C&C, presumably these were the same lumps Bitter used rather than some ancient South African or Australian 1950’s Chevrolet pickup truck engine like in their Senator A’s. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 21 hours ago, Skizzer said: It’s even properly logged as a 3.0 with the DVLA. No MOT though, and I’m not convinced its exempt, being modified. Further checking with DVLA suggests that 24v Royale Coupe is still MOT exempt: Quote The following changes are not considered substantial: Engine - alternative cubic capacities of the same basic engine and alternative original equipment engines So as the 3.0 Carlton GSI replacement engine is substantially the same block as the original 2.8 (as well as the 3.0 that was later a factory option on the Royale), all is good for MOT exemption. And yes there was a 2.8 CIH, I've got one parked outside. NorfolkNWeigh, Stevebrookman, outlaw118 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Another obscure FoMoCo barge - Mercury malaise-era Monarch! Right Hand Drive, so LHD-o-phobes will have to think of different excuses. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1977-Mercury-Monarch-Ghia-V8-302cu-auto/264769169821?hash=item3da578e99d:g:kHkAAOSwmsxe5LDn eddyramrod, somewhatfoolish, garethj and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Trigger to the rescue as usual, with a road test BL Bloke, eddyramrod, Austat and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Asimo said: Another obscure FoMoCo barge - Mercury malaise-era Monarch! Right Hand Drive, so LHD-o-phobes will have to think of different excuses. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1977-Mercury-Monarch-Ghia-V8-302cu-auto/264769169821?hash=item3da578e99d:g:kHkAAOSwmsxe5LDn I hadn’t noticed before, but the glasshouse on those has a distinct Mk2 Granada look to it: I assume there are no interchangeable parts though. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Skizzer said: I hadn’t noticed before, but the glasshouse on those has a distinct Mk2 Granada look to it: I assume there are no interchangeable parts though. I think that shape Monarch/ US Granada predates the Mk2 Granny by a couple of years, they were going for a Euro look though , as can be seen by the ads of the time. I remember the Mark2 being compared to the W126 and W123 by the press at launch too. Personally I think both you and the copywriters would benefit from a drive in a Disco Sport, to Barnard Castle! HarmonicCheeseburger, Yoss, Skizzer and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Buy that Monarch which was twice the price and half as good as a Granada Ghia and Ford managed to sell about 4 and then buy this for the Mrs, twice the price and half as good as a 3.0 Capriand Ford managed ... you know the rest https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mustang-II-302V8-1977-Ghia/133443560365?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200603055202%26meid%3De3db2c78923c483b901d13e2d1bbee1c%26pid%3D101111%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D264769169821%26itm%3D133443560365%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2563228&_trksid=p2563228.c101111.m2109 Skizzer, eddyramrod, outlaw118 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Green Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 It's running. He wants offers. (Facebook Botswana, Cars under 25,000 Pula): richardmorris, Mr Laurence, Austat and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 This 8v hottish Tipo is really rather lovely. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283921869590 Less than the price of a ratty Mk2 Golf GTI, too. Very much would. spike60, J-T, angle and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Skizzer said: tldr interesting facts didnt know that about the cih - only thought that type of engine came in the bigger flavours how grim must a 1.3 have been - seeing as a 1.3 pinto in a cortina wasnt a riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggersdog Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Knight Industries Two Thousand oh yes it is https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-Pontiac-Firebird-Trams-Am/274403934683?hash=item3fe3bfc1db:g:MaYAAOSw-XRe7yt5 Stevebrookman, outlaw118, ChampionRabbit and 7 others 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggersdog Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Using Anglia Car Auctions pictures It sold yesterday in the first part of the sale and now straight on ebay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chevrolet-corvair-monza-coupe-1969-automatic/233625701384?hash=item36652d4c08:g:hqQAAOSwf1Je7zCF edit: flippin flippers , it sold for £8500 plus fees. Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1650 quid functioning Range Rover https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2653965191538995/ dome and Stevebrookman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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