robinmasters Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 A fellow shiter is on his way to collect the roffle Xantia, but it won't start. It turns over, but slowly. I've tried jumping it with my jump pack and another car, and it's the same with both. Can't see any problems with the wiring to the battery or the starter, any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket88 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Check battery connections and earth................ bangernomics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 What he said. Wiggle test. Wires connections shouldn't move on posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket88 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 disconnect battery, connect leads to pos terminal, and earth on body, then try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I would try another battery. Crispian_J_Hotson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_E23 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Try connecting the black jump lead to the engine instead of the battery post to rule out a dud earth. (Or a bump start, if you've got someone to push/tow!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It's quite cold just now, if the battery is nearly dead it will take a lot of charging for it to start the engine especially with crap jump leads. warren t claim and Cheggers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinmasters Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Battery terminals are ok (negative one was a mess, halfway out of the clamp). Terminals on the starter solenoid seem ok too. Doesn't seem to be any resistance between the battery and the solenoid. I'm stumped, but I'm am amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingz123 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Lock and unlock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilninggas Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Ive generally found that jumping diesels with other cars needs the other car hooked up for a few minutes with a fast idle. Just connecting wont work. spike60, The Old Bloke Next Door, Ohdearme and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispian_J_Hotson Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I would try another battery. Gets my vote. Cold + discharge has killed cell/s. Even if you get it going, it'll still be no good. Split_Pin and spike60 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramz7 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Reminds me of the time my old 605 did the same...it took ages to get it jump start, 10 mins or so?Never did find out what the drain was, I suspect it was something to do with the radio but never attempted to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 What others have said. Leave the jump leads connected with the jumping car at a fast idle for a good few mins before trying again. Xantias are known for issues with the positive battery lead degrading, so worth a look to see if there are any signs of it having overheated. Any testing with a normal meter isn't likely to show up issues there...a few ohms of unwanted impedance isn't much, but at the few hundred amps you see during cranking it can amount to quite a big voltage drop. I assume you're sure the leads are okay? I used to have a cheap thin set, which blew itself open circuit like a fuse the first time I actually used them! Lacquer Peel, LightBulbFun, Eddie Honda and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston Martin Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Leave it alone, when he pays run away as fast as possible. The Gumtree special. BorniteIdentity, clayts450 and barefoot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 disconnect battery, connect leads to pos terminal, and earth on body, then try itTry connecting the black jump lead to the engine instead of the battery post to rule out a dud earth. The correct way is of course to attach the neg lead onto a lump of metal nearest the starter motor and not the neg terminal of the battery because electrons are lazy...Also run for a bit (5 mins or so) before attempting a start. And get some proper leads, there are a lot of wank ones out there. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I'm just thinking where the cheapest place is to get a new battery in Folkestone on a Saturday at 1... Ohdearme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kringle Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 ECP in Folkestone, Lion battery 48 quid using the SALE90 code egg and Sheefag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kringle Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Robinmasters somewhere in Folkestone right now... HillmanImp, DSdriver, gadgetgricey and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 42..... coz you'll get 6 quid scrap for the old battery egg and Ohdearme 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It would'nt be a proper collection unless the featured car had a prolapse.... SierraMikeHotel and bangernomics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangernomics Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I'm just thinking where the cheapest place is to get a new battery in Folkestone on a Saturday at 1...Don’t forget online sale90 code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 If you're jumping it off a petrol engine it'll take a lot longer. I've had dead diesels take half and hour or more to jump start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinmasters Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 And then... GrumpiusMaximus, Cavcraft, Lacquer Peel and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinmasters Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 It was the battery. My thinking was that the other car's battery was doing the work, so a knackered battery wouldn't so the dead car being jumped. I haz learned a lesson today. It fired up straight away on the tiny AX battery. I was busy outside messing admit with it so didn't see the sale code, but ECP was open and provided a fresh battery, and Stuart's now on his way on the first leg of the Xantia's trip to it's new home. djimbob, Lacquer Peel, Vantman and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Jumping it off an AX. Quality. Cavcraft, Datsuncog, Lacquer Peel and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRi05 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Turning up to a collection and seeing the bonnet open like dome, Ohdearme, bigstraight6 and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo135 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Thanks David. It will get a good charge when I eventually get it home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingz123 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Jumping it off an AX. Quality.Were lucky that worked! My 1.6 tdci fiesta doesn’t have enough juice to jump my a6 1.9tdi... Jim Bell and Aston Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramz7 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It took me 15 mins to jump a 2.1TD off of a 2.5 six cylinder petrol. And there was a ton of clag when it happened. Man I miss both those cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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