320touring Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Minimad5 said: Always liked these, sadly DERV variety seem to be thin on the ground. At least 1 for sale on the bay iirc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 The verdict is in: So : some droplink/front ARB bushes (they are pennies) Exhaust ( not too bad) balljoint (cheap but scary!) Rear damper. Not that simple. Rear dampers are fluid, and them plus spheres are what does the suspenshiuning. The rear springs are just there to stop sinking. It'd likely need 2 dampers and 2 springs from a E200T (only estate with conventional suspension) time to do some thinking/manmaths Lacquer Peel, Jim Bell and mrbenn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 fk the fluid aff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4irymel Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Rear struts are just* hydraulic rams afaik. You should be able to reseal them for pennies if you are able to find a decent hydraulic seal supplier. Or Many years ago I did a load of work on my dads 300te. One of the struts was leaking from a cracking in a weld at the top of the strut. I removed it,ground out the crack filled the strut with water and welded it up. It lasted another decade until it was scrappaged. I also referbed the height valve body and changed the spheres at other times. It is supposed to used special merc only fluid from what I could tell at the time. I got covered and stank for a week. True story bro? mrbenn, Tickman and skattrd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 My brother @jaypee has now taken on this beauty - and is making steady progress through the MOT fail items. Chief amongst which was getting the exhaust replaced. The car has done at least 220k running on veg oil - which has a higher moisture content than DERV.. Subsequently, the exhaust has suffered some* corrosion as can be seen, it was somewhat overdue replacement. He already has the system from the downpipes back, but needs to order a downpipe. Unbelievably, all 4 downpipe bolts (2 per pipe) came off without fuss - we reckon it must be the original system. Obviously, with the engine on headers only, it would be rude not to make a video.. This cannot adequately convey the level of earsplitting cacophony of demented noise issued forth like dragon breath. When your RML was up, I made him do a flypast .. Lacquer Peel, timolloyd, jaypee and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Howdy! I have been tinkering with this of late, now we're able to get out and about again. So far, I have: Replaced the front to rear suspension lines, as they were holier than a holy thing. Removed the remnants of the exhaust, and replaced it with a new system (at the second try) Repaired a couple of spots on the floorpan @320touringdid this. Replaced a formerly orange indicator bulb with one of a more legal hue. The progress was ably assisted by father touring, @320touring, @dome, @davehedgehog31and @captain_70s All that remains between it and an MOT should be: Front ball joints and rear arb brackets and bushes. drewd, Lacquer Peel, Jim Bell and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehedgehog31 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, jaypee said: Removed the remnants of the exhaust, and replaced it with a new system (at the second try) I feel one line doesn't really do this task justice. Will be exciting to see this tub back on the road, what a car. rml2345, loserone, Jim Bell and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, davehedgehog31 said: I feel one line doesn't really do this task justice. Will be exciting to see this tub back on the road, what a car. I am trying to keep a modicum of decorum about the thread! ? 320touring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 What happened in the 1st try? Did you have the car parked the wrong way round? 320touring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_70s Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 A fine young Mercedes Technician doing factory spec work. Shiny less-vroom box fitted. Fuckers mint. The whole #LongRoofCrew were there (Merc and Oxford not pictured) Yes that is a gramophone I'd lugged out of the Volvo... Gramophone.mp4 Lacquer Peel, Supernaut, drewd and 10 others 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 First part of the plan was to change the suspension pipes, so, off with the old. I initially only looked at replacing the feed line, however, once I did that, and filled the fluid back up, then started the engine. It burst the return line! #joy. So that was replaced too. I used some 6mm copper pipe to replace. Fear not, the pipes were later secured with P-Clips and self tappers, as the original brackets had twisted out of the floor. 320touring, Split_Pin, dome and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Jim Bell said: What happened in the 1st try? Did you have the car parked the wrong way round? GATHER ROUND AND I'LL TELL YOU A TALE TO GIVE YOU THE SMALL BALLS! ? The first try was usurped by the exhaust supplier sending me a downpipe for a LHD W124, this made it super* fun* to try and install, as it kept getting hooked up on the steering box. Eventually, after a couple of hours, I got the front pipe onto the manifold, then realised that the rear pipe wouldn't reach the rear manifold. This made me extremely* happy* and I said such things as 'I am certainly glad, that I was given this opportunity to figure out potential engineering solutions to this problem'. It's the wrong downpipe Gromit.... And it's gone wrong.. FLIP* To further improve* my mood, I then dropped the centre section of the exhaust onto my middle finger, trapping it between the exhaust and a hammer. At this point, I gave up for the day. 320touring, davehedgehog31, Tickman and 7 others 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Ah man. That sounds far from fun. It's on now though. And nobody died. Though I hope the pipe supplier steps in dog turds then treks it though his mam's house. 320touring, Tickman and davehedgehog31 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim Bell said: Ah man. That sounds far from fun. It's on now though. And nobody died. Though I hope the pipe supplier steps in dog turds then treks it though his man's house. Aye, sub optimal for sure, however they are taking it back and giving me a refund so not too bad. Round 2. It's the right downpipe Gromit (it fkn btr b m9) Clearance for the steering box.... YAAAS Some comparison shots. 1st downpipe Correct downpipe Thankfully, fitting the correct part is far easier. So with some @captain_70s assistance at the front, and @dome at the rear (oooh err) it was snipped up in no time at all. Then it was time to start the machine to see if it had been a worthwhile endeavour. Thanks to @320touring for the video, as you can see and hear, she started on the first* turn of the key, with no throttle, nor* did she require a quick loan of @dome's newly purchased battery for the Jag. VID-20200830-WA0001.mp4 Broadsword, 320touring, captain_70s and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 The only other things that were done were 2 little patches of rust where the pipes were originally mounted, however, I don't have any pics. Will keep you posted! Split_Pin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Well done on the rear suspension, I did a similar copper pipe replacement job on a w210. It’s a lovely system when it’s working,A fun bit for me was bleeding the system afterwards. Without any real idea I decided exercising the height adjuster would be the thing to do so with an adapted coat hanger I made the rear go up and down whilst sat beside it. A sort of AS version of a Californian low rider. somewhatfoolish and BorniteIdentity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 6/29/2019 at 3:39 PM, H4irymel said: It is supposed to used special merc only fluid from what I could tell at the time. If you look at the fluid specification, it's essentially the same as Citroen LHM, which is the case for quite a few vehicles that need "special" hydraulic fluid. If it's mineral, the viscosity range is usually very similar or identical to LHM. Which is a shittonne cheaper than manufacturer-only fluids. BorniteIdentity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 22 hours ago, HMC said: Well done on the rear suspension, I did a similar copper pipe replacement job on a w210. It’s a lovely system when it’s working,A fun bit for me was bleeding the system afterwards. Without any real idea I decided exercising the height adjuster would be the thing to do so with an adapted coat hanger I made the rear go up and down whilst sat beside it. A sort of AS version of a Californian low rider. Thanks dude! I am yet to broach the bleeding subject, it appears that it is fluid tight currently, so may stick with that until an MOT is gained. However, I may pick your brains when the time comes! #lowrydr4lyf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 20 hours ago, Talbot said: If you look at the fluid specification, it's essentially the same as Citroen LHM, which is the case for quite a few vehicles that need "special" hydraulic fluid. If it's mineral, the viscosity range is usually very similar or identical to LHM. Which is a shittonne cheaper than manufacturer-only fluids. I have picked up some generic 'suspension fluid' so we shall see how that goes. Failing that, I will rob the LHM from @320touring's GSA..... Shhhh, don't tell him! ? 320touring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhatfoolish Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 21 hours ago, Talbot said: If you look at the fluid specification, it's essentially the same as Citroen LHM, which is the case for quite a few vehicles that need "special" hydraulic fluid. If it's mineral, the viscosity range is usually very similar or identical to LHM. Which is a shittonne cheaper than manufacturer-only fluids. Given DB licenced hydropneumatic wondrousness from Lemon Corp. for the 450SEL 6.9 that doesn't surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Well, today's fun*was replacing the rear anti roll bar brackets and bushes. As can be seen, they were in factory*condition. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth later, we managed to get the rear bolt out. Helpfully* they were loctited in. That got the easy one out of the way, then onto the front bolt. Which was even grottier and had much, much, much better* access. Especially coupled with the arb, and trailing arms in the way! My tiny* mitts didn't really help either. Judicious application of the hammer, screwdriver and various pokey things enabled the crusty remnants of the bracket to be wiggled out before unbolting. Here, father Touring displays the total material left! We used a little scissor jack to raise the trailing arm and align the arb. Which worked well. I used some longer bolts with nuts on to help get the bracket lined up. That also worked splendidly. Once lined up, I measured a couple of these to the correct length, marked with the nuts, then zipped them off with the deathwheel. No pics of the shortened ones. All that was left to do was replace the long bolts with these shortened ones. A little skoosh of rattle can black too. Looks like it just rolled off the production line! ? We then flicked onto the other side, and were met with similarly crusty bolts, however, the bracket was solid, as was the bush. The consensus was that the representative from The Ministry can decide whether it's an issue. Bouyed by the successful endeavours to this point, we thought that we could start to look at the ball joints... Well, well, well, it turns out that the bolt is as tight as a very tight thing, we had a breaker bar, with my not insignificant weight upon it, to no avail. So, again after consulting with the assembled company it was decided that we tidy up and head home! Cheers to @320touringand dad for assisting! Tickman, 320touring, captain_70s and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Good work! jaypee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Split_Pin said: Good work! Cheers dude ? Split_Pin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Looks like fun* day but at least progress was made. jaypee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 6:24 PM, 320touring said: This cannot adequately convey the level of earsplitting cacophony of demented noise issued forth like dragon breath. Merc Inline-6 engines sound the absolute nuts at idle / just off idle with no exhaust. Shame they drone so badly at any other speed. jaypee and 320touring 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Tickman said: Looks like fun* day but at least progress was made. Fun* being the best word to describe it ? Tickman, 320touring and Jim Bell 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I'm sorry* I couldn't make it over to help with those bolts. Good work though! 320touring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, dome said: I'm sorry* I couldn't make it over to help with those bolts. Good work though! Cheers, I am sure* you are ? 320touring and dome 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 A wee bit more done on this today. The ball joint bolt was tighter than a tight thing, previous attempts to remove were fruitless. However, after judicious application of, heat, hammer, bar, socket, impact gun, Irwin (repeat ad infinitum) the bastard actually moved. This is only added to, by the peril of working on Merc front suspension, with a spring rare of 1 billionty hundred pounds per square mm! *sphincter clenching* This was met with great joy and rapturous applause.. The remaining hours of the day were spent trying to get the farking ball joint out the lower arm, heat, hammer, heat, hammer etc.... To no avail. That's next weekend sorted then! 320touring, Tickman, davehedgehog31 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehedgehog31 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 This big cunt is fighting you a bit. Will be worth it when it's all done. jaypee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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