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When I had my Mk3 Mondeo I had a front spring snap (as they often do) - changing the strut I noticed the bracket supporting the brake flexi was stamped "Jaguar"

 

I love winding up Range Rover Sport types by pointing out it's a Disco 3 but with less space :)

 

The volume of BMW content in R75/ZT is silly too - especially the frankly weird electrical systems.

 

Is the Evoque just a Freelander 1 ? Please let it be true. Say it is Please. 

 

Our BINI gen1 responds well to a BMW specific OBD2 reader. I assume the Body Kanbus is similar. 

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Badge engineering is something the Italians have down to a T.

 

23962023078_d83bd5bd8f_c.jpg1991 Innocenti Koral. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

A Yugo 45, based on a Fiat 127, then sold in Italy as the Innocenti Koral.

 

There was also this weirdness:

 

12779929654_43d0dccd70_c.jpg1990s Innocenti Mille. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

So for a while in the 90s, Fiat sold the Brazilian made Uno as the Innocenti Mille. But then you also had:

 

15263764708_0e455acd67_c.jpg1990 Fiat Uno CS. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

The Uno CS, the Fiat badged version.

 

13412464815_f7e633b813_c.jpg1987 Fiat Duna. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

But then also the Duna, which was a saloon.

 

12643754704_6da33e488c_c.jpg1997 Innocenti Mille 1.0 i.e. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

But then there was also the Innocenti Mille 'Clip' which was a Polish made Uno sold after the original Uno was withdrawn in Italy.

 

Phew.

 

They also sold the 127 after the Uno replaced it, but made the South American examples, yet again..

 

26060431096_56037a816f_c.jpg1986 Fiat 127 Unificata. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

30891824072_da5d49f856_c.jpg1984 Fiat 127 Panaroma. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

Also sold as an estate.

 

Confusingly the earlier Uno's badged as the CS were more based on those foreign 127s, but those were called 147s in their home (South American markets).

 

Basically, Fiat has always platform shared incestuously. 

 

Then there was the Iveco Daily, which in its first generaton was badged as:

 

Iveco.

Fiat.

Alfa Romeo.

OM

 

And the second generation was sold as a Zastava Daily as well.

 

I am sure this is just the tip of the iceberg here.

 

38204402316_ab746ea44e_c.jpg1980s Alfa Romeo AR8 & 1996 Citroen AX. by Sam Osbon, on Flickr

 

 

 

 

 

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Platform sharing is not the same as badge engineering.

The mondeo/x-type thing isn't even really platform sharing.

 

They share a %age of components but their platforms are different, x-type one is based on the Mondeo but hugely modified.

 

The L322 and x5 are similar, they share a few components, engines etc but have wildly different hardware put on them. It's much more than just a few badges and trim bits.

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The mondeo/x-type thing isn't even really platform sharing.

 

They share a %age of components but their platforms are different, x-type one is based on the Mondeo but hugely modified.

 

The L322 and x5 are similar, they share a few components, engines etc but have wildly different hardware put on them. It's much more than just a few badges and trim bits.

Imagine the trouble GM had when allegedly trying to get Saab to conform.....

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Austin 7

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BMW Dixi

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and possibly a Datsun 10 connection, but not proved

Also sold in the USA as a Bantam and France as a Rosengart

 

Which also makes me think of the bubble cars, Trojan, Isetta, Henkel and BMW, but can't remember which one is a copy of which.

 

While we're at it BMW 328, Fraser Nash, Bristol 400

 

Also the Darmont which was a copy of the three wheeler Morgan

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Which also makes me think of the bubble cars, Trojan, Isetta, Henkel and BMW, but can't remember which one is a copy of which.

 

 

 Isetta is the model name for the BMW bubble car.

 

The original design was the Italian Iso Isetta, BMW bought the design and tooling but continued with the model name. 

 

The Isetta was also built by VELAM (France), De-Carlo (Argentina) and Rommi (Brazil), always using the Isetta model name.

 

original Iso

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BMW

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VELAM

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De-Carlo

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Romi

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Note the subtle differences, in particular the headlamps. The original Iso and the Romi and VELAM versions windows look very similar to the Heinkel. The Iso dates from 1953, the Heinkel from 1956..

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