The grumpy thread

[High Jetter]

Clan Crusader, Co Durham, surely?

[vulgalour]

Now then, there's only one Welsh car isn't there, boyyo?

[Out Run]

1 hour ago, High Jetter said:

Clan Crusader, Co Durham, surely?

Washington, iirc.

[captain_70s]

6 hours ago, Zelandeth said:

Honda have form on this.  They've had both me and one of my housemates take down photos taken at major public motor (Detroit and Paris) shows because their products were on show there - in two out of the three in my case they weren't even the main subject of the image - just in the background!  This has happened on both Flickr and DeviantArt.  In neither case were there any options enabled for buying prints or anything so there was no commercial aspect to it.  After the second time it happened I just stopped bothering sharing photos of any new vehicle events.

This doesn't surprise me, Japanese companies tend to be shit hot when it comes to copyright and intellectual property.

I'm pretty sure some companies (BMW spring to mind here?) actually have aspects of their car designs copyrighted, silhouettes, styling flourishes, wheel designs etc, so even removing all badging isn't enough as it's still a recognisable brand property. I'm very surprised at the amount of "hippy camper" type stuff that exists which is obviously a VW, although they certainly seem to be on the decline.

I think it is technically a copyright breach to sell a photo or drawing of an entity that is owned by another company. Even though the photograph/artwork is of your own creation the subject of the piece belongs to the copyright holder and would need their permission to license. Given how many companies want to sell their brand on their own terms I can't see the situation improving.

[Pieman]

Welsh cars....Darrian?

[New POD]

2 hours ago, captain_70s said:

This doesn't surprise me, Japanese companies tend to be shit hot when it comes to copyright and intellectual property.

I'm pretty sure some companies (BMW spring to mind here?) actually have aspects of their car designs copyrighted, silhouettes, styling flourishes, wheel designs etc, so even removing all badging isn't enough as it's still a recognisable brand property. I'm very surprised at the amount of "hippy camper" type stuff that exists which is obviously a VW, although they certainly seem to be on the decline.

I think it is technically a copyright breach to sell a photo or drawing of an entity that is owned by another company. Even though the photograph/artwork is of your own creation the subject of the piece belongs to the copyright holder and would need their permission to license. Given how many companies want to sell their brand on their own terms I can't see the situation improving.

A mate of mine makes and sells bars made from a front panel of a VW camper van.  He is very careful to not show images of the VW badge and in most cases it is a CND badge. Instead. 

If the customer wants a VW badge, they can buy one elsewhere 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

3 hours ago, New POD said:

A mate of mine makes and sells bars made from a front panel of a VW camper van.  He is very careful to not show images of the VW badge ....

Extends to computer games as well. I've been playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 for ages and, apart from the tractor unit brands which are all officially licensed, the other traffic in the game shows no badges at all even though the cars and vans are all recognisable. The VW Golf in there carries an emblem not unlike the Eggstinktion Rebellion logo.

[sierraman]

19 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

I'm currently working from home. I've set up in the spare bedroom and keep the door closed most of the time as I have customer calls to make.

This is day two of doing it. My fiancée is currently furloughed and at home 24/7 as is our toddler son. He's off to the childminder's each Wednesday and Thursday so he keeps his routine /social interaction.  My fiancée is able to relax a bit when he's asleep each day - usually an hour in the morning and up to a couple in the afternoon.  She tends to catch up on tv and do a few chores.

Is it wholly unreasonable of me to expect the occasional cup of coffee or even lunch? I take a 30 minute lunch break and spent half of it making something to eat yesterday. Our boy had already been fed so I couldn't enjoy quality time at the table with him. 

Today no lunch has been made once again, and there are two crusts left. Our son has just had his lunch. Apparently there's an Asda delivery later though so I can make a late lunch after that. My fiancée popped to Tesco earlier to see if our son's hat had been handed into lost property, but wasn't aware we were low on bread, so didn't think to buy any.

I'm not an easy person to live with at times, I'm sure. However, surely it's not unreasonable of me to expect a little bit of timesaving help and thought during the day whilst I'm working? We've been together for bloody years, but my god do I feel low down the ladder when it comes to priorities. I had to walk away from the situation earlier when told 'I'm not your mother'. I'm still bloody fuming tbh.

Any thoughts?! 

Hmm it’s probably not unreasonable to expect you to knock your own lunch up. I get my tea done for me but if I want dinner I’ve to get off my arse and make it which isn’t unreasonable. 

[sierraman]

On 11/15/2020 at 4:07 PM, maxxo said:

finally got the picasso starting very well indeed, and engine wise it's been absolutely great since the new battery in august

however over the past few weeks i've noticed a very slight uneveness at idle after a cold start

today it was not slight, and it wasn't a proper cold start

dabbing the throttle sorts it

but why, after spending geez about £3500 on that car in the past year and a half can it not be right

times like this i'm tempted to just go out and buy a modern with warrenty but i'm not gonna do that

i get absolutely sick of car ownership sometimes

got to go out in an hour or so, so no doubt it'll break down

just starting to trust it too but it did that french thing where it's reliable till you trust it then goes wrong

oh, and another thing

MOBILE WEBSITES!

what a huge steaming pile of shit they are, they're all shit just cut down versions of already terrible desktop sites, on a tiny screen with a stupid touch screen that doesn't register what you push

and then the phone gets super hot and decides it's battery tastes very nice so it wants it all at once.

and finally,

self service checkouts

why 99% of the time do they need human interaction

they're junk, some better than others but it's so easy to upset it by doing everything normally

£3500? Fuck me blind! 

[New POD]

6 hours ago, captain_70s said:

This doesn't surprise me, Japanese companies tend to be shit hot when it comes to copyright and intellectual property.

I'm pretty sure some companies (BMW spring to mind here?) actually have aspects of their car designs copyrighted, silhouettes, styling flourishes, wheel designs etc, so even removing all badging isn't enough as it's still a recognisable brand property. I'm very surprised at the amount of "hippy camper" type stuff that exists which is obviously a VW, although they certainly seem to be on the decline.

I think it is technically a copyright breach to sell a photo or drawing of an entity that is owned by another company. Even though the photograph/artwork is of your own creation the subject of the piece belongs to the copyright holder and would need their permission to license. Given how many companies want to sell their brand on their own terms I can't see the situation improving.

I thought I understood copyright and trade marks, but I'm not so sure I do these days. 

So my understanding was, that if I copy someone else's name and use it to sell a similar product, I'm pretty much breaking the trademark, but only if it's a product that they have officially associated with it.  So if i started selling oh, say Lanchester Windows and doors then JLR could fuck themselves, but if I'm a massive Amerocan car company and i started building cars and calling it the Sierra, then Dutton, a tiny tin pot outfit, would try to sue, but find that Ford had bigger pockets. 

If I'm a motoring journalist, I'm not trying to sell cars, or sell the design, but i am trying to sell news, so the trademark of the car I'm photographing is not relevant, unless Honda has associated the trademark with newspapers ? But and this is the bit I don't get, if the design of the logo which is copied then that infringes copyright? Even if in a joke cartoon where the reader can not fail to see that it's not from the maker.  

As in all civil law, it's just who has bigger pockets. 

I'd refer them to that well known test case: Arkell vs Pressdram (1971) 

 

[New POD]

48 minutes ago, sierraman said:

£3500? Fuck me blind! 

I always assumed that the Piccasso was designed by and for people with no motoring soul.  In fact i stopped talking to a bloke i worked with, who after the birth of his first child, sold a VTS saxo, and bought a Piccasso.  

I think my main point, was that if you are going to design a car that ugly, at least put 8 seats in it. 

[anonymous user]

6 hours ago, Pieman said:

Welsh cars....Darrian?

Davrian, Hillman Imp based, I think originally later ones Ford

[Pieman]

Davrian were originally from London but moved to Lampeter in 1976, went into receivership in 1983 and revived three years later as Darrian.  Most famous for club rallying.

[Pieman]

Don't tempt me!!  

[myglaren]

On 16/11/2020 at 21:00, artdjones said:

All your experiences make me glad I don't live in a city in the UK. Although to be fair, when I did, my neighbours were fine with fixing cars in the street. Back in the 1980s that included sill welding, clutch changes, Mini subframe swaps and the like outside our terraced house.

What has happened to Britain since 1990?

I do fewer and fewer repairs to mine these days but have lived here over thirty years and when I have tinkered in the street (actually a car park at the rear of the house) no-one has ever raised the slightest objection.

Never seen anyone else doing on-the-street repairs though.

[New POD]

14 hours ago, vulgalour said:

Now then, there's only one Welsh car isn't there, boyyo?

Gilbern?

 

 http://gilbern.co.uk/a-brief-history-of-gilbern-cars-ltd/

 

[Bren]

The garage has declared the vectra dead. They have had it over a week - the only thing they have done is fit a new belt and declared it knackered. Obviously it won't run if the rockers are broken. They said it needs cams - not sure how they know this without removing the rocker cover.

They should have just said " We can't be arsed."

[sierraman]

3 minutes ago, Bren said:

The garage has declared the vectra dead. They have had it over a week - the only thing they have done is fit a new belt and declared it knackered. Obviously it won't run if the rockers are broken. They said it needs cams - not sure how they know this without removing the rocker cover.

They should have just said " We can't be arsed."

You could have told them that yourself. What’s next a set of rockers or a new car?

[Bren]

The problem is getting somebody else to take a look. It's been to one garage - nobody else will get involved - it's a 13 year old vectra. And it will need recovering. I am angry at the garage - obviously they cannot be arsed and should have said this in the beginning.

[warch]

My experience of rockers is that they tend to wear rather than break, especially in the event of belt breakage. The weak link is usually the valves, assuming the pistons haven't being damaged, a new set of valves or for more speediness a replacement cylinder head is the best option. 

[sierraman]

There’s a Vectra for sale on the ‘fir shale’ thread. It’s £250 and sounds honest enough. If it gets you through winter might turn out to be ok?

[meggersdog]

A few weeks ago the fat twat in the next unit accused me of stealing some mirrored prism thing he was chucking out, his words "did you take my mirror ?" I have three small and hand size mirror for looking in wheels to look at brakes and in spring cups to look for broken springs so I have enough mirrors thankyou. I heard him go next door to me and the same "did you take my mirror ?" When he had gone I glanced in his rubbish bag , there was one mirrored prism thing on a pane of glass (he said there were two and one is missing) and another further down the bag. Next day I asked if he had found his mirror. No apology just "yeah, someone must have moved it" I tell you this so you get the gist of why I think this incredibly overweight person is a fat twat.

He is moving out of his unit and constantly going to the garage next door to get rid of his scrap. My Peugeot is parked between our units and 18 inches away from an upturned tyre flower-pot. Fat twat has been walking across my entrance , past my car to next door most of the day. As the MoT is due next week I'd arranged for another tester to MoT it today at 4 O'clock. It's not really the done thing MoTing your own car so I don't. No law against it I just don't do it. Matey comes to test the car and it's no longer a ZXR part of the numberplate is missing and I mean missing. Whoever broke my plate picked up the broken piece and took it away. The Peugeot hasn't been out of the yard all week. On Tuesday night whilst in the workshop myself and the other tester had a quick look over the car for todays test. When I drove out of the workshop and parked it this morning the front numberplate was complete. Test cancelled and fat twat had gone home by the time I noticed.

Apart from the cancelled test and we all know it can be hard getting an MoT at the moment. What pissed me off is whoever did it took the evidence. Just man up and admit breaking something. They wouldn't know the car was booked in for an MoT or that we looked at it earlier when they walked pasted looking rather sheepish. Taking the corner away is what is pissing me off. If they just left it I could have stuck it back on for the test as it now reads ZXP I can't. 

[sierraman]

Order a ton of sand for him. 

[iainrcz]

Phonecall at 8am this morning
"Emmajane (my Mrs), John (her uncle) is in Hull hospital, he's been knocked off his bike by an hgv on the way to work"

For fuck's sake.
Anyone want to send us any more bullshit to deal with?

[Cavcraft]

Vdeos on Facebook, there's a button to press to view them:

What an absolute load of bollocks, from hilarious* staged tricks and stunts, to about 94 minutes of boring shit to watch a nano-second of something worth seeing.

[Bren]

I have been to the garage which have the vectra. From speaking with mechanic it became apparent that they have weeks of work hence reluctance to get further involved. I explained if I thought it was absolutely knackered then I would'nt have brought it in. Mechanic then said he would be happy to strip it down.

We need an estate - and a diesel one. I would be happier fixing this and chucking £1k at it and fixing it than spending £1500 on some other shite. Apart from the engine the car is mint - I have seen worse three year old examples.

I think people don't fix things because they have no cash. It's easier to sign up for a PCP.

[Bren]

7 minutes ago, Bren said:

I have been to the garage which have the vectra. From speaking with mechanic it became apparent that they have weeks of work hence reluctance to get further involved. I explained if I thought it was absolutely knackered then I would'nt have brought it in. Mechanic then said he would be happy to strip it down.

We need an estate - and a diesel one. I would be happier fixing this and chucking £1k at it and fixing it than spending £1500 on some other shite. Apart from the engine the car is mint - I have seen worse three year old examples.

I think people don't fix things because they have no cash. It's easier to sign up for a PCP.

Having said all this garages can also be an issue - a lot of them don't wan't to be come involved in anything that cannot be turned around quickly - ignorant people get fobbed off so buy another car.

[gm]

A grump from yesterday - I was happily working away in the garage with a bit of 'Maiden blasting out and some soppy sod at apple has decided that my hearing is at risk ! I turned it up again and ten minutes later it turned itself down again  fuck that, I'll just turn up the amp instead  

(I don't use headphones, it was plugged into my amp via the headphone socket)

[Bren]

Grump 2. Saw a rear louvre on facebook for the SD1 - I really wanted one of these. Agreed £100 and offered to pay immediately as long as seller could keep it until after the lockdown.

Seller then said he had been offered £250 and guy could collect tonight. I told him to take it.

Some you win, some you lose.

 

[Lankytim]

Couriers are being swamped with parcels at the moment, people are having to buy stuff online that they can't buy in the shops, companies are filling warehouses with stock in anticipation of difficulties after Brexit, staff members at courier companies are having to self-isolate after getting a positive C19 test or displaying symptoms. It's a perfect storm of shit. 

I sell a bit on eBay and use various couriers, stuff is getting delayed for so long that I'm getting cases opened up against me and I'm having to refund for stuff I can't claim back from the courier as invariably they deliver it after a month or so delay, I'm also spending longer chasing late deliveries that I do actually selling the stuff in the first place.  A parcel I sent to The Netherlands was picked up from the parcel drop-off shop over a week ago and has simply vanished, no further tracking info.  

None of it can be helped, I suppose. Just refund and move on. I'm thinking of jacking the whole lot in until things are closer to normal than they currently are.