The grumpy thread

[ashmicro]

Glad your Missus got back OK, Trig. It's always very worrying when stuff like that happens.

 

Re: Police response to unruly students: dogs, mounted police, water cannon, plastic baton rounds, CS gas, lead. In that order. Some of these people aren't there to protest, it's recreational violence for some.

[Guest]

Glad your Missus got back OK, Trig. It's always very worrying when stuff like that happens.

 

Re: Police response to unruly students: dogs, mounted police, water cannon, plastic baton rounds, CS gas, lead. In that order. Some of these people aren't there to protest, it's recreational violence for some.

 

Yes, it does our cause a world of good being associated with that sort of thuggery.

It looks like I'll escape the increase in fees - I got in on the second to last boat before the cut off. However, this leaves my cousin Josh utterly fucked, as he's applying to University in 2012, and wants to work in the public sector. He doesn't stand much chance of being able to pay the fees back.

 

I got a second chance, he gets jack. Nice one.

[RedSparrow]

I am going to get some stick for this but:

I fully support the protests and hope they burn down Parliment with all those criminals inside it.

[messerschmitt owner]

 

I got a second chance, he gets jack. Nice one.

perhaps it might discourage some people from spending three years at their expense doing a course that is sfa use to them when they leave!

[trigger]

You just know it's going to get worse, I'm sure I just saw the Winston Churchill monument on fire which is very disrespectful, I can't imagine the yobs behaving like this doing anyone any favors.

[Rusty Pelican]

Eva Cassidy.

 

Awful.

I always thought she had a beautiful singing voice even if her songs were all covers , died tragically young IIRC

[morris_ital_lover]

Glad your Missus got back OK, Trig. It's always very worrying when stuff like that happens.

 

Re: Police response to unruly students: dogs, mounted police, water cannon, plastic baton rounds, CS gas, lead. In that order. Some of these people aren't there to protest, it's recreational violence for some.

 

Would it be wrong to say I nearly went down to watch the city hall protest to see the louds mugs society get a good kicking.... I'd say that the balance of people going for violence has shifted significantly, at the beginning it seemed like it was a very small minority going for violence, looking at the Belfast protest's facebook page there was a large number going to smash sh*t up. (and looking at *some* of the "protestors", look like they haven't got a GCSE, let alone got into uni).

 

People complain about police brutality when many of those who complain about it break the law, are violent to the police and spend hours winding officers up, but somehow its always a suprise to them when a copper flips on them.

 

m0rris

Oh and burning benches attacking sir Winston's statue is a rediculous act that does nothing but upset people.

[warren t claim]

BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I've just noticed I've taken the fuel card for the truck home with me! I'm not even there tomorrow! Looks like I'm going to have to get up early tomorrow.

[eddyramrod]

Last night I tried to send an email to the woodie club. It came back with the message "unable to deliver." I've met this a few times, WTF is going on? Surely Practical Classics isn't going to print a dead email address? Not in a full-page feature about the club, anyway. So is Hotmail the problem? If so, what can I do about it? Anyone know?????

[warren t claim]

^^Let me get this straight. You want to join a woody club. Is that right?

 

I can help you there! £10 for four.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lankytim]

I am going to get some stick for this but:

I fully support the protests and hope they burn down Parliment with all those criminals inside it.

 

Just watching it on the telly, I hope they withdraw all funding from these waste of space wingers. GET A JOB!

[Cavcraft]

I agree with the protesters too. Violence may not be the answer but as a group they are getting the message across and instead of writing letters to papers etc (which will go un-noticed or just be patronised) they're doing something about it.

 

I will point out that as a royalist I'm not too happy with them surrounding Charles' car and trying to put the windows through, and damaging Churchill's statue seems a bit daft.

[warren t claim]

I agree with the protesters too. Violence may not be the answer but as a group they are getting the message across and instead of writing letters to papers etc (which will go un-noticed or just be patronised) they're doing something about it.

 

I will point out that as a royalist I'm not too happy with them surrounding Charles' car and trying to put the windows through, and damaging Churchill's statue seems a bit daft.

 

Or they could just vote at the next election...

[meggersdog]

Oh great,a burst water pipe.Why is it the stopcock is always seized and when you finally free it off it's the wrong one.Well the pipe isn't burst the push fit T piece has split spraying water all over the compressor,the bench grinder,the welder and the elctrical sockets,oh and the extension reel.Fan-bloody-tastic.Think I will get a compression fit T piece tomorrow and a ballvalve to isolate the outside tap.

My nextdoor neighbour came round five minutes after I'd switched my stopcock off and his has done the same.Still atleast I freed mine off.His was seized too so I lent him a ring spanner and he promptly sheared the tap off.

[brammy777]

The fact that people are protesting against paying more when they themselves are damaging things, and in turn, making people pay for its repair, is a confusing situation.

[eddyramrod]

^^Let me get this straight. You want to join a woody club. Is that right?

 

The Woodie Car Club. No, I don't want to join, I just want a little help to find some information on a long-lost car. That'll be why the club's address was in Practical Classics back in October....

[M'coli]

I agree with the protesters too. Violence may not be the answer but as a group they are getting the message across and instead of writing letters to papers etc (which will go un-noticed or just be patronised) they're doing something about it.

 

I will point out that as a royalist I'm not too happy with them surrounding Charles' car and trying to put the windows through, and damaging Churchill's statue seems a bit daft.

 

Or they could just vote at the next election...

The next election's 4.5 years away - too long to help those who want or need to go now and in the next few years.

Most of them voted in the last election - the problem being that we've ended up with a non-elected coalition and a non-elected PM. A lot of the angst is because a lot of the protesters voted for the party that is propping up the coalition, i.e. the Lib-Dems, on the single fact that they would not increase tuition fees.

 

The tuition fees were introduced under New Labour, but the root went back to a 1996 and the Dearing Report - which helps to prove to me at least that we had red tories in power between 1997 an 2010.

 

However, here's the rub - any MP who studied at a university or higher education college over 12 years ago had their tuition fees paid for them, it didn't matter how much their daddy/mummy earned, they all had their fees paid for them.

[M'coli]

^^And thusly, quoth I Mr. Keith Duckworth earlier. When you went socialist, that was the end of things. Just like the Kenyan Kommie we got these days. But that's getting rectified lately. Or at least ameliorated.

Neither Major's nor Blair's governments were socialist.

[barrett]

OK don't really want to get involved in this but....

 

Norm, I honestly cannot understand why anyone would think free healthcare could possibly be a bad thing, I don't see how you can say that it would ruin people's work ethic knowing that if they get hit by a bus they will be treated for it! Lumping it in with all those other things (which as far as I know don't exist - free flats? free groceries?) is stupid. In your country a ride in an ambulance costs a thousand bucks. I'm sorry but just because you have a low-paid job doesn't mean you should bleed to death on the street. What a totally fucking absurd point of view.

I see where you are coming from with the other things you say but lets get one thing straight here - the students are not protesting because they want FREE education - they do not expect this, no one does. Read M'coli's post above, he sums it up pretty much exactly. They are angry because the party they voted for has done a huge about-face on everything they stand for in a really short space of time. Lying to get power is nothing new, but this was a MAJOR campaign point for the Lib.Dems, and going back on that promise is an affront to everyone that voted for them.

 

Your post insinuates that anyone who goes to into higher education or is against what the government is doing is somehow automatically a work-shy bum, which frankly I find incredibly offensive as that encompasses 95% of the people I consider friends. I have grown up in a very poor working class family, I have never asked for any sort of handout from the government even when i've been entitled to one, and like most people this has got me exactly nowhere. The idea that "working hard, with brawn, lifting, welding, grinding, driving" is some miraculous way to a better life is bullshit.

 

Lets face it, there are no easy answers, the problems in society run far far too deep and are interconnected at so many levels that there is no one point of blame anymore. When I finally make it to the States maybe we can discuss this over a beer, but we are never going to come to any great understanding on a car forum, so let's just leave it here.

[Albert Ross]

Any support I may have shown for these "students" has gone now.

[Guest Leonard Hatred]

What about everything apart from being hit by a bus?

[keef]

I've met this a few times, WTF is going on?

 

Could be any number of reasons. Their server might be down, it might not like your return address etc.

 

PM me the reject and I'll have a look for you.

 

Quite often these Clubs are not computer literate, so when things go wrong they don't know how to fix it, even if they know that there's a problem.

 

Have you tried Googling for "updated" contact info? PC's list could be well out of date.

[keef]

So is Hotmail the problem?

 

http://www.woodiecarclub.com/index.php?f=data_home&a=1 list 2 contact addys a btinternet and an aol one, nuffin' 'bout Hotmail.

[Rocket88]

^^And thusly, quoth I Mr. Keith Duckworth earlier. When you went socialist, that was the end of things. Just like the Kenyan Kommie we got these days. But that's getting rectified lately. Or at least ameliorated.

 

As Oscar said "America, the only country to go from barbarism to decadence, completely missing out civilisation on the way". At least we don't top all our leaders when they displease us.........if you get lumbered with the wicked witch from Alaska, it'll be your just deserts.

[RedSparrow]

No government has been even vaguely socialist in this country since the 1950s.

I know Americans are taught in school that socailism is the most evil thing on the planet, which seems to be why every country they don't understand are God-damn Commies who need invading and McDonalds.

[Rocket88]

No government has been even vaguely socialist in this country since the 1950s.

I know Americans are taught in school that socailism is the most evil thing on the planet, which seems to be why every country they don't understand are God-damn Commies who need invading and McDonalds.

 

Couldn't agree more............And Americans wonder why the rest of the world despises them.

[messerschmitt owner]

No government has been even vaguely socialist in this country since the 1950s.

I know Americans are taught in school that socailism is the most evil thing on the planet, which seems to be why every country they don't understand are God-damn Commies who need invading and McDonalds.

you could argue that the last socialist government in Britain came in in 1946!

Mind you, apart from a short period at the start of the twentieth century, we haven't had much in the way of socialism in this country, full stop.

The rest of the world despises the Americans because for all of their history, they have either been isolationist and not wanted to speak to anyone, only becoming involved in the world stage when it has had direct effects on them, and nowadays, is being ruled by big business. Let's face it, they chose to abandon the southern states after Katrina, they chose to arm Bin laden, they chose to screw up the Middle East again, but they're getting their come-uppence cos the Chinese, the Indians and the Brazilians are going to be the new world superpowers - America just hasn't noticed, yet!

[RedSparrow]

Well said messerschmitt owner.

The US don't seem to realise that the majority of under 30s across Europe and much of the rest of the world despise them. I would love to see the rest of the world isolating the US by refusing to trade with them.

[Albert Ross]

I've been on my death bed for about a week now, but today felt a little brighter, so decided to go to a supermarket to buy tinned Spag Bol. Yeah I know. The journey there was entriely uneventful. The journey back was utter shite. To exit the supermarket car park involves a small urban street, leading to a simple traffic light controlled crossroads. A fact lost on the "lady" in the black Focus Estate opposite. Almost the entire queue of people turning right had gone through the green light, until it was my turn, as I was in the middle of the junction, amber light "just" coming on, she decided to lurch forward, right into my path. A sharp jab on the brakes woke up the bloke behind, and I thought we would make it through. No. The Focus driver had her window down, and stopped dead in front of me, directing weeks worth of abuse at me........... I'm not aware I did a thing wrong. The bloke in the White Fiat behind was quite calm about it all. He just shouted and waved his arms out of the window in true Roman style. I would love to educate Focus "driver" in the ways of traffic lights. i.e. Green = It should be safe to go, Red = Stop, Amber means don't do anything different to what you are doing already, but be prepared to stop. Dumb bitch.

 

It's not like I was in a small grey vehicle with no lights on. I was in the Land Rover, it's bright red, almost 8 foot tall, and I had lights on. Grrr.

[cobblers]

Blind eyed bastards on the road. AArgh!

 

My road is still fairly deep in snow up the sides, so there's really only room for one vehicle wide. I'm coming down the hill when I see a big old wagon at the bottom, so I stop where the road is wide ish and flash him to come up. A blind twat in a Vectra behind me decides that I must be stopping for no reason, blares his horn and the screams past, throwing a volley of fucks at me through the (closed) window.

By now, said big old wagon is about halfway up the road, and there is nowhere near room for them both, so the Vectra driver is forced to reverse back up. Rather than reversing back past me, where there was room to pull in, he reverses straight back at me. If I hadn't seen him coming and started moving back myself, I'm fairly sure he'd have just reversed straight into me. What an absolute cock of the highest order.

 

I wonder if he was born to be a nobhead, or if driving such a fucking soul destroyingly horrible car as ineptly as this turned him into one.