The grumpy thread

[High Jetter]

3 minutes ago, Spiny Norman said:

I can't work up any hate for this, sorry.

Agreed. It didn't cost anything or hurt anybody (hopefully). Created a degree of neighbourly solidarity. Sure, no NHS worker might have heard your claps, but I bet plenty did and were cheered/encouraged/boosted by it. Definitely not a time-waster

[Timewaster]

11 minutes ago, Spiny Norman said:

I can't work up any hate for this, sorry.
 

No hate, just bemusement. 

[Cavcraft]

Don't begrudge the employed and self-employed a penny of this money, but how can the government afford it for now and at what interest rate are they going to charge the people? Unless I've missed something, not sure if they are just genuinely giving them it or it has to be repaid.

 

 Also, big fucking wow they're knocking NHS parking fees on the head until this is over. They should never have been charged in the first place and an end to the fees should be permanent. 

[sheffcortinacentre]

Agree re parking, but it's bullshit they've only cut it because there's no one to check if they've paid.

[GBJ]

All the zero hours contractors count as self employed don't they?

Don't think they have been living off dividends.

[cobblers]

Just now, GBJ said:

All the zero hours contractors count as self employed don't they?

Don't think they have been living off dividends.

No, zero hours contracts are employees but without any guaranteed work.

Uber/yodel/deliveroo are self employed.

Dividends are a thing for LTD company directors

[Spiny Norman]

14 minutes ago, Cavcraft said:

Don't begrudge the employed and self-employed a penny of this money, but how can the government afford it for now and at what interest rate are they going to charge the people? Unless I've missed something, not sure if they are just genuinely giving them it or it has to be repaid.

I think there's either going to have to be massive tax rises across the board or we'll be in a  long recession that'll make the financial crash of 2008 look like a tenner blown out your hand on a windy day.

The economic costs of this will be felt long after the social & medical fallout is under control.
 

[Timewaster]

18 minutes ago, Spiny Norman said:

I think there's either going to have to be massive tax rises across the board or we'll be in a  long recession that'll make the financial crash of 2008 look like a tenner blown out your hand on a windy day.

The economic costs of this will be felt long after the social & medical fallout is under control.
 

Well, a long as we are still alive to moan about it then it won't be all bad. 

 

 

[vulgalour]

"YOU HAVE TO POST MY ITEM!"

Er... no.  No we don't.  It's not our fault that the lockdown happened just after the auction ended and every other bidder we've contacted has both paid already and are being super reasonable and understanding about our inability to post anything out just at the moment what with everything being shut.  It's just you that's making these demands, fellah, and you've not even paid yet.  Oh, you're cancelling the order?  Okay, no worries.  Don't let the door hit you on the arse too hard on the way out, eh?  Cretin.

 

[beko1987]

5 hours ago, vulgalour said:

"YOU HAVE TO POST MY ITEM!"

Er... no.  No we don't.  It's not our fault that the lockdown happened just after the auction ended and every other bidder we've contacted has both paid already and are being super reasonable and understanding about our inability to post anything out just at the moment what with everything being shut.  It's just you that's making these demands, fellah, and you've not even paid yet.  Oh, you're cancelling the order?  Okay, no worries.  Don't let the door hit you on the arse too hard on the way out, eh?  Cretin.

 

I've not received the seatbelts I bought from someone (not on here) for the xsara. I think so far he's just been useless, and may even be a scammed but now it's lockdown, I'm just leaving it for now. Getting scammed out of £25 is the worst case, eventually getting seatbelts before the MOT tests start again is the best case. 

[beko1987]

After spending all day emptying my parents house, including carrying 133 boxes down into the garage, a good 50 of them full of books the stupid brand new airbed I was sleeping on went fully flat overnight. I'm in mega hurty mode now, are all air beds so fucking shit? All of mine do it to some degree and this was a brand new one mum found in the loft... 

I'm sure when I start carrying heavy boxes it'll hurt less*

[GrumpiusMaximus]

We bought a cheap double one from a camping warehouse a couple of years ago and it's been absolutely fine.  We stick a normal bedsheet on it and it just works.  Does deflate a bit -TADTS but not much.  Most are utterly shite though, you're right.

[sdkrc]

I think I'm the only person who thought the NHS clap was lame. I'm very anti-planned-clapping out the window. The Italian one was novel and more spontaneous. This one was contrived.

I'm very pro actually paying competitive wages for NHS, ditching shitty parking charges and shitty paperwork where they're forced to waste time. I'd gladly pay more tax to make this happen. Practical thanks rather than a token gesture. 

Saying this, I also don't like birthday cards so maybe I'm just a grumpy shite.

I assume a lot of people clapping out the window are also the same people collecting in parks, making unnecessary trips and flouting the isolation rules.

[omegod]

7 minutes ago, sdkrc said:

I think I'm the only person who thought the NHS clap was lame. I'm very anti-planned-clapping out the window. The Italian one was novel and more spontaneous. This one was contrived.

I'm very pro actually paying competitive wages for NHS, ditching shitty parking charges and shitty paperwork where they're forced to waste time. I'd gladly pay more tax to make this happen. Practical thanks rather than a token gesture. 

Saying this, I also don't like birthday cards so maybe I'm just a grumpy shite.

I assume a lot of people clapping out the window are also the same people collecting in parks, making unnecessary trips and flouting the isolation rules.

I guess if even one nurse felt a tweeny bit more appreciated for completely seperating from their family for 12 weeks and going balls deep into  harms way trying to save people with the most deadly virus in modern times, whilst being rewarded with £1700 month then it was likely not that lame really.

Hopefully the public can come up with something less contrived, original and more to your taste next time, any preferences ?   

[beko1987]

35 minutes ago, GrumpiusMaximus said:

We bought a cheap double one from a camping warehouse a couple of years ago and it's been absolutely fine.  We stick a normal bedsheet on it and it just works.  Does deflate a bit -TADTS but not much.  Most are utterly shite though, you're right.

This was some decent brand. Granted all the ones I ever buy are cheap shit from tesco that then get blown up in the back of the car for shitefest so I'll let those off. 

Meh, I've lifted many heavy things now, that's sorted my body out! 

[sdkrc]

44 minutes ago, omegod said:

I guess if even one nurse felt a tweeny bit more appreciated for completely seperating from their family for 12 weeks and going balls deep into  harms way trying to save people with the most deadly virus in modern times, whilst being rewarded with £1700 month then it was likely not that lame really.

Hopefully the public can come up with something less contrived, original and more to your taste next time, any preferences ?   

Imagine having a different opinion to you and a bunch of other people eh? Well aware it wasn't about me.

I'm saying that a practical solution might be a bit more appreciated than a clap out the window. Removing parking charges was a good start.

People staying indoors would also be a much nicer gesture

[Cavcraft]

9 hours ago, Spiny Norman said:

I think there's either going to have to be massive tax rises across the board or we'll be in a  long recession that'll make the financial crash of 2008 look like a tenner blown out your hand on a windy day.

The economic costs of this will be felt long after the social & medical fallout is under control.
 

 

Absolutely, plus of course it'll be a good excuse not to build the 40 new hospitals that they weren't going to build anyway. We'll just be expected to deal with it as employers tell us there's no money for a rise, fuck peoples hours about and the end of the zero hours contracts is even further away.

[clayts450]

12 hours ago, BorniteIdentity said:

But people who’ve only been self employed a few months? That sucks. 

Welcome to my world. TBF, I was expecting nowt and the Chancellor duly delivered. Any other 5%-ers out there (and not of the 50K a year and over variety either) ?

You could see Jenrick squirming on QT last night, and he inferred anyone in the 5%-below 50K bracket should still send their accounts to HMRC. Nope, that won't work Robert. I've got one month's worth of accounts, and my profit is about 50p thus far.

[Volksy]

The next medical emergency is going to be all the babies born in about ten months time.. 

[paulplom]

Surely the hmrc have all out tax returns? They just need to got through the last three years of everyones account and send the check out in the post.
Or am I missing something?

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[nomiST]

40 minutes ago, paulplom said:

 They just need to got through the last three years of everyones account and send the check out in the post.
 

That's my understanding (limited, admittedly).

[Bazfr69]

3 hours ago, sdkrc said:

Imagine having a different opinion to you and a bunch of other people eh? Well aware it wasn't about me.

I'm saying that a practical solution might be a bit more appreciated than a clap out the window. Removing parking charges was a good start.

People staying indoors would also be a much nicer gesture

I’m one of the normal people who participated, unfortunately I don’t have the power to remove parking charges but I was able to show a very small gesture of appreciation.
I’m also staying in apart from travel to and from work. 
 

Am I doing this right or wrong? 

[Supernaut]

4 hours ago, sdkrc said:

I think I'm the only person who thought the NHS clap was lame. I'm very anti-planned-clapping out the window. The Italian one was novel and more spontaneous. This one was contrived.

I'm very pro actually paying competitive wages for NHS, ditching shitty parking charges and shitty paperwork where they're forced to waste time. I'd gladly pay more tax to make this happen. Practical thanks rather than a token gesture. 

Saying this, I also don't like birthday cards so maybe I'm just a grumpy shite.

I assume a lot of people clapping out the window are also the same people collecting in parks, making unnecessary trips and flouting the isolation rules.

I agree.

The clapping was somewhat contrived, but I'm not against it as such.

I'm more against the way it's almost being treated as an alternative to doing something tangible to help the NHS rather than being complimentary to some practical measures.

There was a post on reddit this morning asking what the exchange rate was for NHS claps to the pound, so they knew how many claps they'd need to pay their rent, for example (Yes I know it's somewhat tongue in cheek, but also not entirely so).

[vulgalour]

3 hours ago, paulplom said:

Surely the hmrc have all out tax returns? They just need to got through the last three years of everyones account and send the check out in the post.
Or am I missing something?

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[New POD]

39 minutes ago, Bazfr69 said:

I’m one of the normal people who participated, unfortunately I don’t have the power to remove parking charges but I was able to show a very small gesture of appreciation.
I’m also staying in apart from travel to and from work. 
 

Am I doing this right or wrong? 

Have you attempted to organise a petition using social media, to make all hospitals provide free parking for anyone on shifts starting before 8am or leaving after 7pm 

Even if they did a salary sacrifice it would reduce the Nic/paye portion. That is pay them less and they get free parking. 

[Bazfr69]

1 minute ago, New POD said:

Have you attempted to organise a petition using social media, to make all hospitals provide free parking for anyone on shifts starting before 8am or leaving after 7pm 

Even if they did a salary sacrifice it would reduce the Nic/paye portion. That is pay them less and they get free parking. 

I haven’t and I wouldn’t know how to tbh as I’m not a prolific fb user/activist and have a very small circle of friends. 
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that make a difference either, ofc ymmv. 

In any case, I’ll revoke my clap as it seems to be a cause of some ire here. 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

4 hours ago, paulplom said:

Surely the hmrc have all out tax returns? They just need to got through the last three years of everyones account and send the check out in the post.
Or am I missing something?...
 

 

3 hours ago, nomiST said:

That's my understanding (limited, admittedly).

I understood that once they've done all their processing of the last 3 years' tax returns, those found to be eligible would be invited to apply - in other words, if you are told that you qualify, but then don't get your claim in,  they're not going to give the money to you. It's not an automatic payout.

[captain_70s]

7 hours ago, sdkrc said:

I think I'm the only person who thought the NHS clap was lame. I'm very anti-planned-clapping out the window. The Italian one was novel and more spontaneous. This one was contrived.

Agreed.

They emptied work and got us to stand outside (2m apart) and clap. Some folk set off fireworks, some motorists beeped their car horns.

While it is nice that people seemingly support the NHS and the gargantuan amount of work they do it seems to me like a self congratulatory pat on the back for the clappers who are probably the same people voting for political parities that want to reduce the system's funding and panic buying toilet rolls. Plenty of people were videoing their clapping as well, no doubt to post online to show what a good person they are.

[Bazfr69]

We clapped from our darkened doorstep, as did the other folks in our street that participated. I didn’t see anyone filming it or looking smug about the gesture. Granted we were all quite a distance from one another so I shouldn’t assume. 
My mrs and I both work in distribution for a supermarket chain and for the last three weeks have been trying our best to make sure shops are stocked as well as possible via knocking our collective pans in and working as many extra hours as needed. We are also happy to be doing something that isn’t just about profit for our company. 
Our workforce is severely depleted atm, genuine and advantage takers unfortunately but those remaining are trying to do what they can to make a bad situation a little better within their abilities. 
 

We haven’t been stockpiling supplies either nor expecting thanks/gushing on social media. 
 

We’re a complicated bunch aren’t we people?  
 

Best wishes to all of you anyway. 

[outlaw118]

Outlaw_Junior (stepson) is in the midst of moving.

A couple of weeks ago, repossession papers were served at his rented flat; he's only been there 6 months, and it was muggins here that did most of the moving, his "dad" did fuck all, and his sister spent an afternoon putting a wardrobe together.

He rang his landlady and she promised that it was dealt with, a big mistake, blah blah. 

On Friday, some "recovery agents" knocked looking for her. They wouldn't disclose who they were working for, and it took ages for them to be convinced that she wasn't either living with him, or hiding in a cupboard.

So, after being told by his employer his job is in jeopardy, he's decided enough is enough, and has bought himself a caravan and is going to live in that.

So, 3 guesses who's doing the move with him?

Yep.

His "dad" is too busy self isolating, and his sister and partner have decided they need to visit partner's relatives in Loughborough for a fortnight.

So according to the media, me and him are going to be fined, arrested, thrown in jail and tiger-bummed,for doing "unesassary travel" all because his fucking landlady believes it's OK not to pay bills.

Pisswhistling spunkweaver.