Lacquer Peel Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Even in the country where a lot of the "free speech" panic comes from their version of "free speech" only serves to protect the powerful.The same happens here to an extent. DodgeRover, SierraMikeHotel, Tamworthbay and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Can't we all just get along? *checks card* BINGO! forddeliveryboy, Cavcraft, barefoot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 those words cause serious harm. No word has ever caused serious harm. wuvvum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 My r53 Mini Cooper s has just shat out a load of coolant- maybe HGF? Dunno if these are known for it #its a mini adventure paulplom and Magnificent Rustbucket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraMikeHotel Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 No word has ever caused serious harm.I never know when you're joking, but that is staggeringly, toweringly wrong and there's a ton of evidence to prove it. Tamworthbay and strangeangel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 No word has ever caused serious harm.It's a while ago, but"Let him have it" Tamworthbay, purplebargeken, yellowperil and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainrcz Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hopefully you’ll make it out alive. The food hall reminds me of school dinners, if you don’t like processed meat you’ll go hungry.Had a coffee, a wander.Nothing too taxing.Even did a drift in the carpark for two old people, they loved it. Sent from my VFD 710 using Tapatalk The Moog and barefoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinmasters Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 No word has ever caused serious harm. It's a while ago, but "Let him have it" More pendantry; that's four words. DeeJay and GrumpiusMaximus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernMonkey Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 No word has ever caused serious harm.Fire!? Sorry, I’ll get my coat Cavcraft, blakey79, Craig the Princess and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 More pendantry; that's four words.If you took the time to read it you would see that Junkman shortened the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Even did a drift in the carpark for two old people, they loved it. #coolkids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Rustbucket Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Not intended as a flame, and it's possible I've misunderstood you, but I think you are incorrect. We have never had freedom of speech in the UK. You have never been allowed to defame others. Public Order offences have existed for a very long time. More recently, laws around certain protected characteristics have come in, and been strengthened over time, because we have finally realised that those people need extra protection from the law because they are more vulnerable. You are not allowed to say something racist, or derogatory to disabled people, not because of "thought police" but because those words cause serious harm. I wholeheartedly agree with DW and Chaseracer, free speech does carry an enormous responsibility. It is not absolute, but it does exist. The law of defamation sets a high bar with strong defences. So to does Article 10 of the ECHR. The law does set limits as I also believe it should, but these are far below that imposed by Autoshite. The moderators here elect to go further than they have to. The harm held in words varies. At all but the extremes, where this is determined is arbitary. Time for my coat, I think. Dead_E23, alf892, chadders and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraMikeHotel Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 No no, it's an interesting topic and as you've pointed out there are differing laws that have to be balanced against each other. My point was just that you can't say what you like with freedom from the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The moderators here SHOULD go further than the law requires. Because forum rule number 1 is do not be a cun, or something along those lines SierraMikeHotel and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 "freedom of speech" should mean the ability to say whatever you like but to also accept there are consequences. Internet "freedom of speech" seems to mean the ability to say whatever you like and to never experience any consequences whatsoever. The former is reasonable, the latter is cuntery. The Moog, DeeJay, Lord Sterling and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainrcz Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 #coolkidsFast and T' Furious - South Yorkshire drift. Sent from my VFD 710 using Tapatalk The Moog, GrumpiusMaximus, sheffcortinacentre and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Internet "freedom of speech" seems to mean the ability to say whatever you like and to never experience any consequences whatsoever. The former is reasonable, the latter is cuntery. Amen. cpjitservices, Springer and GrumpiusMaximus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercrocker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Since when does the UK have a culture? HillmanImp, alf892, JeeExEll and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Game set and I think you will find.. match Cavcraft, GrumpiusMaximus, HillmanImp and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpiusMaximus Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Game set and I think you will find.. match Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Etc. myglaren, Cavcraft, The Moog and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercrocker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Game set and I think you will find.. match I think you will find those are Austrians.... The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I think you will find those are Austrians....Yup, can confirm thats Junkman. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaTom Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ian, I signed up to the other side just to see what it was like, as soon as I saw the Hubnut/Ian bashing I left, the name calling and general playground behaviour is appalling - those people need to take a long hard look in the mirror. The atmosphere over there absolutely stinks!!! Stay around here, I know I will be and I'll be in my forum too. Your content brings much more than than what those people could ever offer. Stick around. Those fuckers *sorry* can go swivel. Sent from my Nexus 6P using TapatalkOh the irony. Good luck with your forum. All I get from this is “yeah yeah those nasty potty mouths. What a bunch of fuckers” At least it is grumpy. cpjitservices, Magnificent Rustbucket, D Spares & Tyres and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangeangel Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I think some people on the dark side need to get over themselves and stop trolling me. To think I was on some moral crusade just to protect my channel is ludicrous. If I objected about the tone of posts, it was only because I didn't agree with the tone of the post. The way things are going at the moment, I'm minded to join the exodus. Bellends all; just ignore them. I've certainly got a few more names to go on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaTom Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Amen.Oi! No religion! “So be it” would be more appropriate for God’s sake!! Cavcraft, The Moog, Laseraligningfoofooflanges and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangeangel Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Since when does the UK have a culture? That comment is unworthy of you, seriously. Tamworthbay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saabnut Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 My grump is personal spats taking over the grumpy thread! Please stop it or I will have to call for MORE moderation to split them out. There are already threads for this subject, can we have the grumpy thread left for grumps rather than moans. cpjitservices 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaTom Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Please tell me you are kidding! I get the humor in the second sentence, but the last one sounds a bit serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 ________________________ There, I drew a line under it. Now, on with the inconsequential grumps, please. Lacquer Peel, myglaren, GrumpiusMaximus and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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