Marm Toastsmith Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Was going to put this in the 205. It ought to be better than the factory radio, but still appropriately shite. But it seems the connector might be made of unobtanium... Can't find anything that looks the same on eBay. It's a pull-out model so presumably it originally had a dedicated cage with integral connector... was hoping there would be a way to get it to work in a generic cage... errrrrr... Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Unless you can find another of the same model for spares, what you have there is a paperweight. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Has Dolby B though. I wonder how stick the pinch roller will be? Hacking an SCSI cable might work if you have enough patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marm Toastsmith Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Unless you can find another of the same model for spares, what you have there is a paperweight. Sorry. I thought that might be the case... shame... Has Dolby B though. I wonder how stick the pinch roller will be? Hacking an SCSI cable might work if you have enough patience. Yeah, it's a nice one! And there's got to be a way to bodge it, one way or another, but I suppose it's quite a lot of work to (potentially) discover that the thing is non-functional anyway... O well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I thought that might be the case... shame... Yeah, it's a nice one! And there's got to be a way to bodge it, one way or another, but I suppose it's quite a lot of work to (potentially) discover that the thing is non-functional anyway... O wellIf you find a pinout somewhere on ze interwebs you might be able to find the power in. Then you can check if it's a dud. Marm Toastsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellypoo Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Also see if you can find a manual for it, or for a similar model number for a unit from the same era, it's likely the connector and pinouts would be the same. Also worth finding a long-time established independent car audio shop, they may have the connector you need on a dusty shelf somewhere, you never know! Marm Toastsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I think all models had different connectors in the cage.Also, the manual would only tell you what the cable colours refer to, not which pin they connected to.Aerial connection is unavailable as well. It was a security feature after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Owners Manuelhttp://retro-caraudio.servehttp.com/guide2/images/Brukermanualer/Bilstereo/Pioneer/CassetteReceivers/KEHM5000QR%20USER%20MANUAL.PDF Marm Toastsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marm Toastsmith Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Owners Manuelhttp://retro-caraudio.servehttp.com/guide2/images/Brukermanualer/Bilstereo/Pioneer/CassetteReceivers/KEHM5000QR%20USER%20MANUAL.PDF Good find! None the wiser though as far as connecting it up goes. TBH at this stage I'm inclined to give up on it... but we'll see. gm and UltraWomble 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Whip the lid off an it should be obvious which is the +12v in - lob a power feed onto it & see if it sparks into life. Then the speaker outs should be reasonably straightforward to trace. Or spend £4.99 on thishttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-Mini-Disc-Car-Stereo/142934738791?hash=item2147930767:g:eDAAAOSwh6VblCJ- jbz2079 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I think you're out of luck unless you can find a cage, which I've just totally failed to do online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marm Toastsmith Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Whip the lid off an it should be obvious which is the +12v in - lob a power feed onto it & see if it sparks into life. Then the speaker outs should be reasonably straightforward to trace. Or spend £4.99 on thishttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-Mini-Disc-Car-Stereo/142934738791?hash=item2147930767:g:eDAAAOSwh6VblCJ- Haha. MiniDisc - NO! Bargain tho. Actually I do sometimes use them. Have got some. And a deck. But I want tapes in this car. Took the lid off... Learned: - It was made in 1990! The same year as the 205! - Pinch rollers are shiny. Not awful, but... - The wiring isn't going to be easy to trace - all packed in too tight and just too many wires. I could make an educated guess but... I think the suggestion to get something else is probably a good one. A line-in would be useful. Don't mind spending a few quid if I have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_senator Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I`m wondering if the cage had a phono out, if it did, you just need to find the power + - and remote out, then solder the phono outs to a phono lead & on to an amp or graphic.. **Edit, it had a DIN plug output, not phono`s**There is this "wiring kit" at an eye watering price, & with no picture, so no idea what exactly you`d get:https://www.partmaster.co.uk/kehm5000-cable-kit/product.pl?pid=235513 Marm Toastsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispian_J_Hotson Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Find out what car it was nicked from and go see the owner for moar info? I had a unit like this back in the day which may have been a JVC? Used to pull the thing out and stick it under the seat because you'd look like a dick carrying it into the pub. Would have made an excellent weapon though.The idea of removing the whole unit seemed to pass quite quickly favouring alternate methods of security. I forgot these ever existed, thanks for reminding me! Marm Toastsmith and SierraMikeHotel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraMikeHotel Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 My manager was talking about these the other day, reminiscing about carrying the whole thing around with him in the 90s. People often took the piss, but he always did it because he had a job doing data entry for the police at the time and could spend an entire day entering stolen car stereos. He once did a search on his own one, just out of curiosity, and sure enough it was on the system as stolen... jbz2079 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marm Toastsmith Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 I`m wondering if the cage had a phono out, if it did, you just need to find the power + - and remote out, then solder the phono outs to a phono lead & on to an amp or graphic.. **Edit, it had a DIN plug output, not phono`s** 2351382217_1.jpg There is this "wiring kit" at an eye watering price, & with no picture, so no idea what exactly you`d get: https://www.partmaster.co.uk/kehm5000-cable-kit/product.pl?pid=235513Another good find, but yeah a bit pricy all things considered. I think I'll probably just get something else... ...off to wire some new speakers in it now anyway. Maybe with an upgrade there the original radio won't be so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castros_bro Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 205? Ahhhh This special* radiogram mono/stereo system designed for Pugs 205 available which a smart phone connects to for toons, wireless reception or very loud intimate phone calls. plus (generic picture) amplifier plus pre-amplifier no longer connected to this. I have different but similar type radiogram in present Pugs 205 auto flavour. Marm Toastsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marm Toastsmith Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Ha! Brilliant! That looks like the solution* to all my problems, and certainly ideal for a little enthusiastic listening to the light programme. Actually was just wondering whether a regular 205 parcel shelf would fit in my convertible. I've got a very nice little 8" sub which has been in the loft for decades...but I'd feel bad cutting holes in my virgin shelf. That would save me the bother I suppose... Where are you/is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Hopefully this weekend of the £4.99 cables and surround have arrived from eBay I shall be ripping out the factory fit stereo out of the Picasso and launching it into the hedge then fitting a nice 1990's Sony with all important 3.5mm jack input to run a DAB radio on. Radio 4 hopefully wont be farting any more and I get to listen to Radio 7 (4extra) too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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