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Hang on...............you mean you're from Oop 'Ere and you LEFT?

In my defence it wasn’t my choice.

My dad was in the Navy and had to come south (Portsmouth dockyard) for his job so we ended up down here. There’s no sea or naval dockyards in Doncaster you see!

Then we moved back to Doncaster for a while living in Bessacarr for those of you local. Then, again, we had to go back south to Pompey which is where I’ve been since, well in Waterlooville actually which is about 10 miles or so north of Pompey.

I don’t hate it down here but it’s an overcrowded over priced rich mans playground and I’d go north again without a doubt. My plan is to use my job here to get £shitloads then jack it in and go back up to the nice bit of the country!

 

So now you know!

 

We* don't let that sort back.

 

*speaking as a naturalised norferner

F U Buddy! I’ve got climate improvement work to do and I have suitable tools for the job!

And I know Donny, I’ll track you down!

 

 

Much apologies for the thread drift...

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The car has all the hallmarks of a caring owner of the non-car sort with regards to the mechanics. For instance the battery was bone dry as was the steering box. It has taken me the best part of 2 days to service - you would not believe how many grease points there are on this car - and I still haven't finished. To start with I drained the sump and changed the oil filter. A straightforward task on an old car? Not so - I had to remove the battery and the ignition coil to get the filter out and even then it was a struggle. Later cars had the battery moved to the other side of the engine compartment. Just to give you an idea of the size of this engine, the book says the oilways retain 3 pints after draining! So the fresh oil is already a little dark.

Gearbox and back axle were drained and both were straightforward jobs, indeed the gearbox has been the easiest I've ever filled. The real fun started when I got the grease gun out. There are nearly 30 points to attend to on this car. One grease nipple was missing from the front propshaft U/J so I raided my stores... heaven knows when they were last done. The steering box took a lot of oil until it was full, but after all the work I am certain it drives a little better. There were numerous other points to attend to with an oilcan, the ones which get overlooked like gear shift linkage and throttle pedal pivots, but I had the benefit of a lubrication chart.

Next will be checking the valve clearances and sparking plugs. The car has sprung a water leak, but I can't see where from just yet other than it's at the front. The radiator is the original and has a little plate saying 'Rootes Group' on it, so that will be coming out for a re-core, which I do with all my old cars where the radiators are a bit sus.

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The car has all the hallmarks of a caring owner of the non-car sort with regards to the mechanics. For instance the battery was bone dry as was the steering box. It has taken me the best part of 2 days to service - you would not believe how many grease points there are on this car - and I still haven't finished. To start with I drained the sump and changed the oil filter. A straightforward task on an old car? Not so - I had to remove the battery and the ignition coil to get the filter out and even then it was a struggle. Later cars had the battery moved to the other side of the engine compartment. Just to give you an idea of the size of this engine, the book says the oilways retain 3 pints after draining! So the fresh oil is already a little dark.

Gearbox and back axle were drained and both were straightforward jobs, indeed the gearbox has been the easiest I've ever filled. The real fun started when I got the grease gun out. There are nearly 30 points to attend to on this car. One grease nipple was missing from the front propshaft U/J so I raided my stores... heaven knows when they were last done. The steering box took a lot of oil until it was full, but after all the work I am certain it drives a little better. There were numerous other points to attend to with an oilcan, the ones which get overlooked like gear shift linkage and throttle pedal pivots, but I had the benefit of a lubrication chart.

Next will be checking the valve clearances and sparking plugs. The car has sprung a water leak, but I can't see where from just yet other than it's at the front. The radiator is the original and has a little plate saying 'Rootes Group' on it, so that will be coming out for a re-core, which I do with all my old cars where the radiators are a bit sus.

On mine it leaked from the water pump housing. It may be a common thing - not sure. Parts were difficult 20 years ago...but that was pre-internet. There may be some motherlode in Australia or something he he. There was a company Grimes in the UK - I think they are long gone.

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If any of the steering box equipped cars I have owned is a guide, it's empty because the oil all pissed out within a week of filling.

 

Super motor though.

 

By Jove you are correct. A fresh patch of fluid appeared on the driveway. I dipped and sniffed and yep, it's EP 90. Incontinent 60 year olds!

 

Would it be something daft* like needing the waterpump re packing with that thick white grease or similar causing sporadic leakage.

 

PS please can you leave the number plates in a bucket of salt water for a week or so to improve their appearance.

 

Bizarrely for a car that has a grease nipple for everything else, the water pump is a 'sealed for life' unit. Did the Rootes engineers not predict such a lifespan?

 

It's a motor that just looks better everytime you post a pic.

 

Thank-you kind sir.

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I've really not had any spare time to work on the car, as the usual flaws are appearing such as petrol tank leaks, oil (steering box) leak and worst of all, windscreen leak which is collecting a puddle in the rubber mats. I really need to see to that as a matter of urgency. However, as I took the windscreen washer bottle out to clean and fill, imagine my surprise when I found this -

 

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RJ Grimes were Rootes specialists, based in some old railway arch’s in Coulsdon, S London.

 

When they retired, their niece, Sarah, took the bulk over and moved it down to her shop, Speedy Spares, in Brighton

 

She sold a lot off, quickly but still retains some stock, or knows where to get it.

 

They are happy to post out, too. Check their website out, and/ or give them a ring. Really helpful, very “old school”.

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Can you get new screen rubbers for these, Josh?   I would be concerned about that leak.   The old Captain Tolley and the like is great for keeping water out of the car but it doesn't always completely cure the capillary action which can see water ingress elsewhere along the rubber.   This doesn't always come inside visibly - it can get into bulkhead voids and A post sections and wreak merry hell five years later.   All of this old stuff you see with "slight bubbling around screen" is often completely fucked under the paint.    

 

Its the first thing I do with old stuff now - new, good quality screen rubbers.....Did it on the Cowley, front and back - its a good opportunity to clean and protect the delicate thin steel flanges too.

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Can you get new screen rubbers for these, Josh?   I would be concerned about that leak.   The old Captain Tolley and the like is great for keeping water out of the car but it doesn't always completely cure the capillary action which can see water ingress elsewhere along the rubber.   This doesn't always come inside visibly - it can get into bulkhead voids and A post sections and wreak merry hell five years later.   All of this old stuff you see with "slight bubbling around screen" is often completely fucked under the paint.    

 

Its the first thing I do with old stuff now - new, good quality screen rubbers.....Did it on the Cowley, front and back - its a good opportunity to clean and protect the delicate thin steel flanges too.

Yes. Virtually every Daimler Conquest for sale has ruined woodwork at the corners - the water then rots out the inner wings. My Wolseley 4/44 did it too. Thiz is something I'd hope the Humber club would have remanufactured if unavailable.

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Every autojumble I go to has tons of BMC stuff but Rootes parts seem really hard to find. Fortunately I haven't had to get anything yet. I need a closer look at the windscreen rubber, but I hope you are right Trev and new ones have been made. That was certainly the case with the MO (which doesn't leak).

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This is either a euphemism for a lady bottom or a millennial.

 

I was going to say 'aren't they the same?' but then I remembered the only use for a millennial is to treat them as a slinky & push them down the stairs.

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. There were numerous other points to attend to with an oilcan, the ones which get overlooked like gear shift linkage and throttle pedal pivots, but I had the benefit of a lubrication chart.

 

 

 A neat trick I learned on the bus company is to mix equal quantities of grease and gear oil into a slurry and brush it onto areas that need oiling, the gear oil creeps in and lubricates where needed and the grease provides thickness to stop it dripping off and stop water getting in.

 

Danke, will have a closer look. It does seem to be going down the front of the engine, not the radiator. It seems to do it sporadically. Fortunately it has a thermometer so I can check before any overheating takes place.

 

 If you have not heard of them this place is supposed to be good.

 

 http://www.ep-services.co.uk/classic_pumps

 

 Very nice looking car, well done.

 

Colin

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I used to use C.O.H.Baines, in or around Tunbridge Wells for windscreen rubbers. They have an extensive catalogue of cross sections, marry yours up and state the length - simples. In the post a day later.

 

I recall one peculiar rubber that they made just for me. They would go to those lengths.

 

I was ordering so many up at one stage that I got a visit from their rep!

 

All worked well, as originally intended, at a sensible price.

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Conrad Conelrad observed the panel lighting wasn't the best. I determined to find out why, as it should at least be readable. I looked under the dashboard and found the speedometer and tri-gauge cluster are lit by one miserly bulb. I pulled the speedometer bulb out and found this, side by side with a fresh one:

 

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For lightbulbfun, they are both Osram and the usual 2.2 watt variety.

 

I don't think I've posted any dashboard pictures, so here is a shot to savour:

 

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Instead of doing a straight swap with the bulbs, I decided to fit a 5 watt instead. As the panel lights are dimmable the only possible snag was fitting the uprated bulb through the hole, as they are considerably bigger. Fortunately it went in without trouble and the result has been a marked increase in brilliance, as you can see here:

 

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To the right, the cluster is lit by a 2.2 watt in good condition. This is with the dimmer switch set to maximum brightness, so I'll swap that one too. Fuel gauge is smaller so may not need it, I'll have a trial run first.

 

Otherwise today I went round with the oilcan and attended to all the door locks and hinges, and adjusted the passenger door striker plate, so the door can now again be clicked shut with one finger, which I never tire of doing!

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