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[Snake Charmer]

 

2 hours ago, D.E said:

It has the right colour!

https://www.carandclassic.com/la/C1802171

Wouldn't look out of place in a 70's Bond film!

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Thanks @LightBulbFun, good to see you again, and thanks for the opportunity to drive REV (that throttle is a hair trigger!!)

 

[LightBulbFun]

11 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

8 hours ago, junkyarddog said:

 

8 hours ago, junkyarddog said:

@LightBulbFun

hah yes! its even closer then your realise  as in REV-K itself, REV701K to REV800K are Invacar Model 70's, there are actually 3 Invacar Model 70 REV blocks, REV701K-REV800K, REV701M-REV800M and REV375R-REV475R, so there were 301 REV's all in all , but REV451R is the only one known to still survive. (and so far I *think* the only one pictured?)

[LightBulbFun]

BTW as a general heads up, I have noticed sadly that the DVLA's 1st party checker, seems to now hide *all* vehicle records that have a scarpped marker against them, regardless of if its just an old style scrapped marker or a CoD, previoulsy only vehicles with a CoD would no longer show up in the DVLA's 1st party checker, but now I have noticed it seems that any vehicle with any sort of scrapped marker 

for example EPH399J an AC Acedes Mk15 Model 67, which was marked scrapped on the 20th of November 1979, (so long before any sort of CoD was a thing!)

now comes up as Vehicle details could not be found

I have to say this is a really not a nice thing! as it means that someone who is trying to research a vehicle, wants to know for example when their family Morris Marina or such was last taxed/on the road, can now no longer do so if it was marked scrapped, it will just incorrectly show as "vehicle details could not be found" even if it survived well into the 1990's or 2000's for example SPU145M no longer shows up when it once did

and in general its quite "1984" to just claim that vehicle details could not be found, when they damn well do exist on the DVLA computer!

(I already did not agree with the fact that cars that where CoD'ed, vanishing from the main site for the same reasons, but its even worse now they are doing it to historic records)

[JJ0063]

Write a complaint letter! 

[reb]

I'm not sure it's all vehicles with a scrapped marker, because I've just checked some of my old cars which I know have been scrapped and they're still showing up.

[beko1987]

Same, my blue laguna still comes up

And I've got the slip of paper from the dvla and the receipt from asm from when I had it (what was left of it) put down... 

[JJ0063]

57 minutes ago, reb said:

I'm not sure it's all vehicles with a scrapped marker, because I've just checked some of my old cars which I know have been scrapped and they're still showing up.

Yep same, just checked an escort I scrapped correctly in 2008ish

 

 

[chadders]

I've just checked 2 and got the same result as you guys.

[LightBulbFun]

are you checking with the DVLA's vehicle enquiry services, or the DVSA's check-mot services? because @beko1987 is, and I am wondering if everyone else is as well

 

those 2 checkers are completely independent from each other, and the DVSA only queries the DVLA's database for the raw data, to the point that the DVSA has its own make and model code lookup table, which is why for example a Model 70 on the DVLA will incorrectly report back as "INVACARE"

but it will still correctly report back as "INVACAR" on the MOT checker, since the DVSA have thankfully not fucked up their own lookup table at least

because of this, vehicles, even vehicles with a CoD will still show up on the MOT checker thankfully, but if you try and of the vehicles in the DVLA 1st party vehicle enquiery service checker, you will see that as above they dont show up sadly

even ones that would of shown up until recently

[LightBulbFun]

Just now, JJ0063 said:

Post a link to what you’re using?

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

 

[Weird Car]

9 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

are you checking with the DVLA's vehicle enquiry services, or the DVSA's check-mot services? because @beko1987 is, and I am wondering if everyone else is as well

 

those 2 checkers are completely independent from each other, and the DVSA only queries the DVLA's database for the raw data, to the point that the DVSA has its own make and model code lookup table, which is why for example a Model 70 on the DVLA will incorrectly report back as "INVACARE"

but it will still correctly report back as "INVACAR" on the MOT checker, since the DVSA have thankfully not fucked up their own lookup table at least

because of this, vehicles, even vehicles with a CoD will still show up on the MOT checker thankfully, but if you try and of the vehicles in the DVLA 1st party vehicle enquiery service checker, you will see that as above they dont show up sadly

even ones that would of shown up until recently

This is a car I know for a fact got scrapped, still on the system 

[JJ0063]

Another example, I physically took this on a trailer and weighed it in myself so I know it was properly scrapped

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@LightBulbFun This is sad, TFN 148T my parent's escort has finally gone :-(

 

[RoverFolkUs]

3 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

Another example, I physically took this on a trailer and weighed it in myself so I know it was properly scrapped

I wonder if it was ever marked as scrapped though, regardless of *actually* being scrapped?

[LightBulbFun]

13 minutes ago, Weird Car said:

This is a car I know for a fact got scrapped, still on the system 

9 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

Another example, I physically took this on a trailer and weighed it in myself so I know it was properly scrapped

but where they actually *marked* as scrapped (or for ones scrapped post 2005 given a CoD)? there are plenty of cars I know which where scrapped, but never had their V5c's sent in to say so, or where never issued CoD's

and likewise, I know of plenty (mainly Invacars ) that where officially marked as scrapped with the DVLA, but never actually did get scrapped and do/did survive 

so it very much goes both ways as the say

[Weird Car]

7 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

but where they actually *marked* as scrapped (or for ones scrapped post 2005 given a CoD)? there are plenty of cars I know which where scrapped, but never had their V5c's sent in to say so, or where never issued CoD's

Yes 100% marked as scrapped and given a cod, it was our family car and my dad was good friends with the scrapyard owner

[beko1987]

17 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

 

Ah!

In my specific example asm are a vehicle recyclers so not everything through the doors is marked as scrap. Anything I bring in does though, because it's too old for them to want 😂 So I guess your questions of 'was a cod actually issued' is valid, although asm have a seperate queue in the reception for straight scrap

I could look using my api key thing and see which dB that pulls from again but I'm sick of looking at my work laptop and database tables now so that won't happen this week! Given the details it'd be the still working mot dB wouldn't it. For how long though... 

 

[plasticvandan]

Can you look up TOC663H LBF? I've never been able to get a record for it,wondered if your systems might find it?

[barefoot]

TOC H?

Is that a Triumph?

[LightBulbFun]

8 minutes ago, plasticvandan said:

Can you look up TOC663H LBF? I've never been able to get a record for it,wondered if your systems might find it?

looks like it either never survived to computerisation, or was computerised in the 1970's but never made it past 1983 and thus was archived off the DVLA's main computer system

(a fair few years back, the DVLA took many vehicle records that where tax due/otherwise inactive from before 1983, and archived them all to save computer space)

 

[lesapandre]

TOC - taking without consent if yr up before the beak.

[lesapandre]

@LightBulbFun I rescued this from the dustbin men. Any good to you?

No bulb just the box and packing.

[LightBulbFun]

4 minutes ago, lesapandre said:

@LightBulbFun I rescued this from the dustbin men. Any good to you?

No bulb just the box and packing.

oh cool! yeah not worth the hassle of posting, but Ill take it off you at the next FoD gathering or such to save it from the bin  

[lesapandre]

Congratulations you are the winner! I can drop at the fish and chip shop? 

 

[High Jetter]

2 hours ago, lesapandre said:

TOC - taking without consent if yr up before the beak.

That's TWOC, shirley? 😀

 

2 hours ago, barefoot said:

TOC H?

Is that a Triumph?

No, some sort of Christian movement, my Gran used to go to their meetings back in the 60s or 70s.

[plasticvandan]

TOC was a Regal Supervan that my dad taught himself to drive in on his bike licence in 1979,as at £50 it was cheaper than driving lessons,formerly used by an antique dealer of all things it was very knackered at only 9 years old,doesn't look like it made it to computerisation,interestingly although presumably scrapped the minor van he had afterwards.did show up as last taxed.1983.

[lesapandre]

Well they made the Minor van up to '73 - and I bet a few were registed in 74. The Post Office might have stockpiled them.

[auntiemaryscanary]

@LightBulbFun have you got any any tiller controlled jaunts planned for this weekend?

Are you pleased with all the work done by shitters (various)?

I'm asking as I'm living vicariously through you. My most exciting motoring event this weekend is polishing a cloudy plastic headlight lens in preparation for a Doblo MoT on Tuesday...

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Handlebar...

 

 

I know...