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8 minutes ago, AdgeCutler said:

I’ve no idea how to downside up that picture and I’ve just pushed Brian back into his shed, sorry.

beaten to it by @egg! :) 

but its a very awesome photo! amazing to see after all this time!

also finally gives me a good photograph to stick into my survives list :) 

(now excuse me while I visit the Calendar thread)

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Many thanks to @EightMegs's who dropped on by to hand deliver this, lamp which I won on ebay, but only realised 5 minutes to the end was collection only, but very thankfully @EightMegs stepped in literally at the last minute to collect it and safely bring it to me :) 

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its a very rare antique large carbon filament lamp made by the Sunbeam Electric Light Ltd company from 1890's, they specialised in making large high power lamps, to compete with the smaller carbon arc lamps of the time

I did indeed light it, for the first time in probably well over 100 years! I knew it was a high current low voltage lamp so I used by DC bench-top PSU for it, which at its max output of 30V the lamp draws about 5A, clearly not full power, but it was quite awesome to see :)

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I dont know the exact rating of this particular lamp but I know these lamps ran at about 3.5 watts per Candle power, and where produced in the 150 cp 2000 Cp range, from 50V to 120V, going by the size I suspect this one to be around the 200 cp range, so would be a 700W lightbulb in modern parlance

I would like to bring it up closer to full power on the Variac, but obviously especially not knowing the exact ratings of the lamp ill have to tread very carefully if I do attempt that!

it joins my 16 Candle power 100V Ediswan lightbulb from c1893 shown on the right, as one of the oldest lamps in my collection 

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a serious piece of awesome antique glassware I am really pleased and quite proud to have in the collection :) 

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5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

Many thanks to @EightMegs's who dropped on by to hand deliver this, lamp which I won on ebay, but only realised 5 minutes to the end was collection only, but very thankfully @EightMegs stepped in literally at the last minute to collect it and safely bring it to me :) 

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its a very rare antique large carbon filament lamp made by the Sunbeam Electric Light Ltd company from 1890's, they specialised in making large high power lamps, to compete with the smaller carbon arc lamps of the time

I did indeed light it, for the first time in probably well over 100 years! I knew it was a high current low voltage lamp so I used by DC bench-top PSU for it, which at its max output of 30V the lamp draws about 5A, clearly not full power, but it was quite awesome to see :)

image.thumb.png.518d25383c4df5de1fd04ec427a25297.png

I dont know the exact rating of this particular lamp but I know these lamps ran at about 3.5 watts per Candle power, and where produced in the 150 cp 2000 Cp range, from 50V to 120V, going by the size I suspect this one to be around the 200 cp range, so would be a 700W lightbulb in modern parlance

I would like to bring it up closer to full power on the Variac, but obviously especially not knowing the exact ratings of the lamp ill have to tread very carefully if I do attempt that!

it joins my 16 Candle power 100V Ediswan lightbulb from c1893 shown on the right, as one of the oldest lamps in my collection 

image.thumb.png.f12e6ad3cebadb8aaf9934b50e449370.png

a serious piece of awesome antique glassware I am really pleased and quite proud to have in the collection :) 

My late Uncle was  a Marconi engineer. I think he'd have been on your wavelength.

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48 minutes ago, The Old Bloke Next Door said:

Posted on facebook today/

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very cool! do you have direct links to either of the posts? :) 

NPD39 is a Petrol Stanley Argson thats been doing the rounds for sometime, I first posted it the thread in 2019 when It showed up for sale on car and classic, it then later showed up on ebay a couple years later

On 12/07/2021 at 13:21, LightBulbFun said:
On 15/09/2019 at 15:32, LightBulbFun said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1155136

a Petrol Argson! :) 

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I think iv seen this one before number plate rings a bell, but I cant confirm

sadly reg turns up nothing on the DVLA checker but it would be very interesting to try and V62 this one! (Just how far back to those dusty old pre DVLC records go? :)

 

Looks like NPD39 is up for sale again, on ebay this time!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194237804428

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also came across this cool picture of a Vernon Invalid car :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/123243264448778/posts/670894656350300/

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so I wonder if its moved again!

 

FJG371 is a Fitt Continental, a very curious machine, but one with no known survives sadly, the George Fitt Continental was pretty much the last new design of tradition petrol open invalid carriage to be penned before the bodied machines came to be

 

speaking of old school invalid carriages I came across these 2 photos

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from here

https://www.facebook.com/christopher.whelan.336/posts/pfbid0mLeYmR3FFJZ86xJJ88yorqGdXQGPs8Ba2VNU3vUsP1mqvturLBnzS7XAj4s8iZyAl

the Electric Harper Mk1 is quite notable as XPL434 makes it a really early one, given that the last Stanley Argson known to survive is XPD805, I almost wonder if there was some overlap in production

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4 hours ago, The Old Bloke Next Door said:

No direct link to the posts, I'll have a look later if I can find more information.

thanks that would be appreciated :) 

13 minutes ago, egg said:

is that the same bloke in both pictures?

indeed it is according to the facebook post

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just unearthed this fun PDF

https://www.smmt.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/V355-June-2012.pdf

which contains a very nifty list of a majority* of the DVLA Body, Colour and wheel plan codes I have rambled on about in the past

(*but not all! most notably I noticed Body code 08 is missing from the list, which is Invalid Vehicle, (aka invalid carriage) so I have to wonder what other codes are, missing from the list just because its so obscure or just last used 300 years ago)

this basicly tells you exactly what you can write down on a vehicle registration form and have it properly show up as (a lot of people dont realise that theres a fair bit variety! I remember when I first found out that Pantechnicon was a valid and coded body type!)

 

also handily answers a question for me, in that I wondered if you could pre-fill in the coded sections if you knew the codes and indeed looks like you can

which is very handy :)  

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4 hours ago, AdgeCutler said:

Here we go, another update for those interested in the life of Brian.

 

thats bloody awesome! 

I think its the first modern video I have seen of a Villiers Invacar on the move! as you say Brian sounds very smooth and seems to go pretty well!

so close to returning to the road, its really awesome! 

 

just as a side note, has the chain-case and gearbox been suitably filled with their required oils? just mentioning it as it seems like one of those things that could be overlooked in all the excitement of getting everything back together :)

so I am just playing it safe by asking!

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19 minutes ago, egg said:

50-60 years of progress??

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hah thats a fun comparison/photo montage, both about 8 Horse power! (well 8.6 in the Mk12 :)

although the Mk12 can go significantly quicker than the Ami can, there aint many situations where you can say a Mk12 goes much quicker then something but this is one!

top speed of the Ami 28Mph, top speed of the Mk12, about 45-50Mph!

also the Mk12 legal on motorways where the Ami is not!

so an Invacar Mk12 is much better suited* for that M25 commute into Central London (ULEZ exempt, and small enough to squeeze between all the bollards FTW)

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14 minutes ago, Blake's Den said:

Interesting article about the Turner Ranger and also the Elswick Envoy in the August 2022 edition of Classic Tractor. The article is a chat with Tony Turner formerly of Turner Engineering Ltd. I've learnt some things that I didn't know!

What's the Elswick Envoy connection? Elswick Group took over Turner Engineering Ltd and built the Envoys in the same factory as where the Rangers were built.

 

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I have a phrase for that "invariably inevitably invacar" :mrgreen: (or more Invalid car in this case)

or my other favourite coined by @wuvvum

"Chodwin's law" 

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57 minutes ago, skoda_fan said:

A propos of nothing, but this seems like the right thread to leave this. Seen at the Broyle Country Show in East Sussex today.

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Saw something very similar only minutes ago on 'Talking Pictures', 'The Long Arm'.

https://www.reelstreets.com/films/long-arm-the-2/

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1 hour ago, skoda_fan said:

A propos of nothing, but this seems like the right thread to leave this. Seen at the Broyle Country Show in East Sussex today.

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Oh very cool! JPE789C was the very last Villiers Machine in ministry service, managing to survive right until the end in 2003

On 13/05/2020 at 17:16, LightBulbFun said:

JPE789C, AC Acedes Mk11 (Model 57), Date of first registration 23 June 1965, current status with the Bentley Wildfowl Museum, untaxed since 2 July 2003, Date of last V5C (logbook) issued 7 July 2003, notable for being the last Villers powered invalid vehicle in Ministry service

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I have not "seen it" for a long time now, so its cool to see it again!, not sure I have seen it from the rear before! those Model 70 rear lights look funky on it LOL

its also notably the wrong shade of blue for an AC Acedes Model 57!

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33 minutes ago, DVee8 said:

very fitting that something like that should show up! as I just received this in the post a couple days ago :) 

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Simon has finally got Stuarts small book on Mobility Scooters out the door! 

I was going to wait to post about it when I had a link I could post for anyone interested in buying a copy, but it would be remiss of me not to post about it now!

(it can be found on Amazon etc, but theres no buy button yet!)

 

hopefully with this out the door at long last, the Big book on invalid carriages can finally make some headway to being published :) 

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1 hour ago, Sheefag said:

Saw something very similar only minutes ago on 'Talking Pictures', 'The Long Arm'.

https://www.reelstreets.com/films/long-arm-the-2/

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thats an AC petite :) more closely related to an AC All Weather Tricycle (Model 43) (by way of the Buckland runabout) then it is an AC Acedes (Model 57) despite outward appearances

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