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Invacar Model 70 Acquired! and general ramble thread, index on page 1, Phase 2: finding a suitable driving school/instructor getting lessons and a licence! 23rd lesson had! theory test taken!

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On 11/2/2019 at 9:19 PM, LightBulbFun said:

yeah I did think that, however the front end is much more AC like :) 

if it is really based off an invalid vehicle, I imagine whoever was responsible for designing it probably just googled or pulled up a bunch of different invalid vehicle pictures and used different elements from each type :) 

 

happy to hear you got stuarts small book, indeed it is! I look forward very much to the big book when that comes out :) 

 

BTW I have been wondering about the whole parallelogram front suspension thing

its stated in the small book that it was introduced with the Acedes Mk14, and that then Invacar was forced to adopt it, resulting in a bit later on the Invacar Mk12E (well the book does not say Invacar was forced to adopt it, however in a couple places elsewhere on the internet stuart mentions they where)

however as seen by the pictures I got of a Mk14, and the DHSS parts Book, its clear that the Parallelogram suspension was only introduced with the Mk15, with the Mk14 having C Tube suspension Like other invalid vehicles of the Time

 

now I sadly don't know exactly when the AC Acedes Mk15 was introduced, but I do know a couple things

1 the Invacar Mk12E definitely looks to have been introduced by April 1969, as I know of a couple survivors from then

and 2 I know of WPK129G, which was first registered January 1969, and im pretty sure its a Mk14A, because I have a picture of WPK62G, and you can quite clearly see the front mould lines and lack of towing "eye" that make the Mk14 (and I suspect its a Mk14A based on how late it is for a Mk14)

so that means the AC Acedes Mk15, must of been introduced after January 1969,

which makes me wonder if the AC Acedes Mk15 and Invacar Mk12E where introduced at roughly the same time, and I wonder if it was because, by April 1969 the Model 70 was very much in development, and I wonder if the DHSS saw front the parallelogram front suspension design of the Model 70, and requested it be fitted to existing Models in production?

therefore forcing Both Invacar and AC at the same time to adapt their vehicles for it resulting in the AC Acedes Mk15 and Invacar Mk12E at the same time? (although worth noting that the Model 64 only gained parallelogram suspension with the Model 64 Mk5 in June 1970 starting with CPH29H, but the Model 64 was a much more niche vehicle then the others)

the whole suspension thing is just a theory/hunch of mine, Iv passed it onto stuart, im curious to seeing what he thinks of it!

 

the oldest Mk15 I know that shows up on the DVLA is BPK646H, the newest (and well only that I know of!) Mk14 to show up is WPK129G

I may do some block hunting at some point, between WPK-G and BPK-H (so Wxx Xxx Yxx Axx Bxx) see if I can figure anything out that way, Ie when exactly was the Acedes Mk15 was introduced etc

but there's a lot of surry markers, PA PB PC PD PE PF PG PH PJ PK PL PM 

12 if im counting correctly combined with the 5 leading letters is 60 registration serieses, which even in jumps of 200 (since ACs are generally registered in blocks of 200) will take a fair while!

esp given how fewer normal cars from the period show up still, which makes block hunting even more time consuming because if I go from say REG123 then go up 100 say to REG223 and REG223 turns up nothing, I have to jog one by one backwards and then forward until something shows to make sure I have or have not just landed in the middle of an invalid vehicle block, and that can add a lot of time to the process! (and thats assuming once I do "find" a block that any still show up!, out of 200 cars, WPK129G is the only from its block to show up still for example!)

its a good way to kill time at least esp with some good music cued up :) 

been doing some research/thinking on this front

now with the new tool instead of hunting for reg blocks I can directly shove chassis numbers in and see what the regs are :) 

I still have to go through the chassis numbers 1 by 1 as very few invalid vehicles from this time period are still on the DVLA database sadly, but its much quicker then hunting for blocks then going through the blocks 1 by 1

(the one downside to searching via chassis number is if a vehicle has a slightly different chassis number for some reason then it means ill miss it sadly)

and with this I found YPE918G, which if its chassis number is anything to go by is an early Mk15 Model 67, its the earliest Mk15 I can find, being 188th off the production line I think

now it was registered on the 8th July 1969 and so going by how early this car this is I estimate the first Mk15s would of showed up in either late May or early June 1969

which means if the April 1969 Mk12s I know of are actually from april 1969 and are actually 12Es then that means

that Invacar was the first to show up with parallelogram front suspension NOT AC which is a very interesting twist on the whole story....

although it could be that just Invacar was quicker to implement the new suspension design into their existing product then AC was, and that the design did still come from AC/the Model 70.

of course I have passed these findings onto stuart and it will be interesting to see what he has to say about them :) 

(if nothing else it backs up my theory that AC and Invacar adopted parallelogram front suspension at roughly the same time, rather then 1 company having it for a while before the other)

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1 hour ago, Pieman said:

Seeing the banger racing links made me want to get involved too, as I have been a committed bangerack for many years and love researching the sport's history.  The story about the Timelord possibly being raced at Swaffham made me delve into my records even at this late hour - some even more hardcore bangeracks than me have managed to compile fairly comprehensive lists of any unusual or notable cars to be raced across the sport's history.

 

you dont happen to have any records of invalid vehicles going round the oval do you?

Stuart was involved in banger racing back in the day, and he recalls a few Model 70's going round the track, including a special event where an entire field of 15 Model 70's went round the oval

it would be interesting to hear of any details of these events if there's anything out there :) 

I just have this 1 photograph from an event, im not sure which where or when

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stuart said that the Model 70's did surprising well around the oval out gunning everything except the hot rodded escorts apparently!

and unlike reliants he did not recall them ending up with bits of fibreglass bodywork falling off all over the place

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That looks like the pit area at Standlake Arena near Oxford, and I have been told in the past a couple of Invacars went out with the Reliants there but I don't know what years.  Never heard of a dedicated oval race for the things though, so that's one to research.

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2 hours ago, Pieman said:

That looks like the pit area at Standlake Arena near Oxford, and I have been told in the past a couple of Invacars went out with the Reliants there but I don't know what years.  Never heard of a dedicated oval race for the things though, so that's one to research.

ah good to know :) 

yeah stuart says it was some sort of charity event in 1990 if that helps narrow down the search,

as to where you got 15 Model 70's back then when they where all still government property, well  2 of the people on a banger team worked at an approved repairer apparently

so "what better way" to scrap the Model 70's they had out back then to send them all round the oval, then at the end of the race they were taken back to be officially scrapped

 

he also talked about another 8 that went out at some point, where he said the only one he recalls falling over was one that crashed into a tractor tyre marking the course where it went over the tyre landed on its side, uprighted itself and carried on racing LOL

 

I feel sorry for the poor sod who ended up with a Model 67 or something like after seeing all the Model 70's go round the track, and not noticing the visual differences between them and his vehicle and then getting utterly mullered on the track!

 

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so had my 10th driving lesson today :)

(I think! adding up the hours iv spent I think I might have failed to update this thread at some point in time, but not 100% sure there)

it went well :) im getting better/more confident at at roundabouts which is good!, we also did my first bit of parallel parking/reversing into a parking spot, I managed to avoid horribly curbing a wheel yay! but I still have the issue of im not turning the steering wheel quick enough, hopefully things improve overtime in that front, and theres a couple other things im a bit slow at.

 but im getting to grips with this whole actually giving it throttle while letting up/slipping the clutch up to get the car moving quickly and pulling out of junctions and traffic lights in a quick and timely manner, and I even managed a hill start without rolling backwards, which is good because the other guy was right on my arse LOL

(I think the reason im a bit slow on certain things is im still a bit worried about what if I do something quickly, but then suddenly the situation around me changes and I don't have time to react etc)

 

throughout the lessons one of the fun things about actually driving around London, is you see just how horribly other people drive, for example during a lesson or 2 back, someone up ahead was at a red light and they just decided to pull out to their right drive along the wrong side of the road and go around (literally!) the red light LOL

was one of those "did I really just see someone do that" moments LOL

the next lesson is on monday :)

 

also Woo 4000th post! and what post milestone would not be complete without something special Model 70 wise :) 

so have this neat little excerpt from the 1985 edition of a brief pictorial history of the invalid tricycle

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and its a slightly clearer picture of the Prototype Model 70 :) 

the script on the right is not thought to be totally accurate, its thought that its actually P5 thats pictured and not P6 (P6 is thought to be the first fitted with a steyr puch engine and was the first to have a widened track)

also im pretty sure the Model 70 pictured itself is from 1967, (although the pic may be from 1968) as the Reg quite clearly says "PPL" and If I understand how registration numbers where issued back then I dont think there was any PPL-F or PPL-G registrations issued where there?

which would mean its PPL-E which is 1967 which is also what this website says :)http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/registrations/pl.htm

the question is what is its full registration number, stuart apparently has an even clearer picture stashed away somewhere that he is saving for the big book :) 

and he says looking at the photo its still hard to tell but he is pretty sure that the reg starts with 1 after "PPL", he thinks its either PPL18E or PPL185E

if its known to start with 1, then thats PPL1xxE which is not that many registrations for me to smash into the DVLA checker, but thats assuming it shows up on the DVLA! I may have a stab at it anyways, who knows maybe ill come across other Prototype Model 70's like I did when I accidentally found the other BPE-H cars :) 

 

its also very interesting to note that it is on 10 inch wheels, I wonder if the Model 70 was designed for 10 inch wheels, but changed to 12 inch wheels on order of the DHSS, because 12 inch wheels was the DHSS standard spec for all other vehicles at the time, so by using 12 inch wheels it meant they would be able to use existing stock etc

but then once people started complaining during the early 1970s, they allowed the Model 70 to switch to 10 inch wheels in hopes it would quell some of the complaints by improve handling 

also it looks like P5 was the 2 seater prototype that was mentioned during the early days of this thread, if anyone remembers that far back! :) 

I wonder if P5 was the 2 seater tricycle from the "which report" trials marion and dennis took part in? I wonder if theres any pictures from that trial, would be very interesting to see what the tricycles where!

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54 minutes ago, cms206 said:

TPE 376S has broken cover on the Isle of Skye! Apparantly acquired for spares for another one?

 

 

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not quite broken cover just yet!

(it was never covered up in the first place sadly LOL)

those are photos he just posted a from a while back when someone else visited it with a view to buy, but decided not to as the guy selling it at the time wanted £LOL espically given how poor condition chassis is in etc,

but indeed @OliD-E is enroute as we speak to collect TPE376S from skye to use it as a body and driveline donor for KPL139P, I think the seller finally realised that unless he got sensible no one was going to buy it!

but despite how sad it is condition wise, its pretty much perfect for @OliD-E as he has KPL139P which is a fairly good rolling chassis, but with no drive line or much body work, where as TPE376S has actual intact body work, and something resembling a drive line, but a very rotten chassis, (apparently the engine does run so thats always a good start!) 

so I think the plan is take the body and rive line from TPE and stuff it into/onto KPLs chassis and make 1 good Model 70 out of the 2

I am very curious as to what the history of TPE376S was, ie how did it get to skye and how did it end up with who it did end up with in skye!

 

I appreciate the heads up tho :) 

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not quite broken cover just yet!
(it was never covered up in the first place sadly LOL)
those are photos he just posted a from a while back when someone else visited it with a view to buy, but decided not to as the guy selling it at the time wanted £LOL espically given how poor condition chassis is in etc,
but indeed [mention=27014]OliD-E[/mention] is enroute as we speak to collect TPE376S from skye to use it as a body and driveline donor for KPL139P, I think the seller finally realised that unless he got sensible no one was going to buy it!
but despite how sad it is condition wise, its pretty much perfect for [mention=27014]OliD-E[/mention] as he has KPL139P which is a fairly good rolling chassis, but with no drive line or much body work, where as TPE376S has actual intact body work, and something resembling a drive line, but a very rotten chassis, (apparently the engine does run so thats always a good start!) 
so I think the plan is take the body and rive line from TPE and stuff it into/onto KPLs chassis and make 1 good Model 70 out of the 2
I am very curious as to what the history of TPE376S was, ie how did it get to skye and how did it end up with who it did end up with in skye!
 
I appreciate the heads up tho  

About 3 hrs away this morning got most of the driving done last night i will put some pictures on here for you when i get to TPE!

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3 hours ago, OliD-E said:


About 3 hrs away this morning got most of the driving done last night i will put some pictures on here for you when i get to TPE!

Awesome, I look forward to the more up to date and better detailed pics of TPE :) 

 

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2 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

I don't know if it's possible on your case LBF, but if you can get any practise (with a qualified driver) in between your lessons it should make a big difference to your confidence and progress on the road.

id love to be able to do that, but sadly no one I know locally has a car etc (and by people I know locally I mean my mum because I dont really know anyone else locally sadly) 

im just very thankful for the experience @Zelandeth gave me in the lada and @Mrs6C and co gave me at the FoD :) 

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had my 11th driving lesson today :) (or well technically yesterday at the time of writing LOL)

we practiced parallel parking some more, think I was getting the hang of it reasonably  well by the end of the of practicing it :) 

and as per normal now, (as we start from home and I drove to the location) I did more mingling with London traffic, 

(im glad my personal car is an automatic with the amount of stop start, awkward cant quite let off the clutch fully 5-7Mph traffic there is!)

it was also raining throughout so I had a bit of a lesson/experience driving in wet weather, which is always good to add to the roster :) 

next lesson is scheduled for friday :) 

(plan over the next few lessons is to learn the rest of the maneuvers, and then once those are done with, start treating each lesson as if it was a driving test, and see how I do etc)

and just as a refresher or for those new to this thread etc, each lesson is 2 hours long

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interesting this one shows 0cc still despite most "0cc" vehicles now just saying "not available"

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(been doing some more Model 67 research, turns out that as well as the Prototype Model 70's there's a Block of Model 67's in the BPE-H reg range :) BPE501H-BPE700H I think )

curiously the BPE-H Model 70's (BPE22H BPE29H BPE30H are the 3 that show up on the DVLA still)  have much lower reg numbers, but where registered (July 29th) much later then the much higher numbered Model 67 block

I suspect that AC reserved those registration numbers pretty early on in Jan 1970, but only registered them them, when the Prototype Model 70's  they where reserved for where ready, hence them being registered much later then the rest of the BPE-H registration series , or maybe for some reason AC did not want to give up those registrations (as August would of ment a suffix change and then they obviously could not use those registrations anymore)

so they registered those Model 70s even if said Model 70's where not ready to go on the road or such?

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On 11/14/2019 at 1:35 AM, LightBulbFun said:

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Yay found an earlier Mk14 that shows up on the DVLA which means I can pull its chassis number and finally see what a Mk14's chassis number looks like :) 

continuing with the Model 67 research, since I now knew what the earlier Mk14 chassis numbers looked like thanks to the above

I knuckled down and starting from what would be Chassis No 1, I went through them with my tool in Chassis to Reg number mode, until something popped up

I wanted to find the oldest Mk14 I could, as this would give me a good clue as to if the RPA-E block is the first Mk14/Model 67 block, and give me a better idea of when they where introduced etc :) 

and I managed to find SPD866F, :) which is what I suspect was the 292th Mk14/Model 67, its the oldest Mk14/Model 67 I can find that still shows up on the DVLA 

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looking at the date of first registration of 10th october, its early chassis number and that it looks like RPA-E was first issued May 1967, and knowing generally how long it took to produce a block, id say that indeed the RPA-E block is either the first Model 67 block or is is very close to it :) 

the fun thing is I have a photograph of RPA451E, which happens to be when the RPA-E block starts, so that means potentially we have a photograph of the first (production at least!) Model 67 :) 

 

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haha @Zelandeth check it out :) second oldest Model 67 I can find (and 261 is an anagram of 621 to boot)

also one for @quicksilver since he noted that TPA621M was parked ahead of TPA729F a rover P5 at the FotU https://flic.kr/p/2gTjQAy

who knew there was a block of AC invalid vehicles in there too :) 

 

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looks like its TPA251F-TPA450F, (I searched for a block/one after the SPD-F block as I noticed some slight oddities with SPD866F's chassis number and I wanted to check if that was down to something up with that specific vehicle or just in general something a bit odd about the early Mk14 blocks, and it looks like its "just" something a bit odd about the early Mk14 blocks)

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heres a fun one :) Untaxed since July 78, but last keeper change on 1st of the 3rd 1992, and the last V5 was issued on the 18th of may 1992, its also the first Model 67 I have found where the engine size is properly recorded LOL

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I wonder if this one survives somewhere, either that, or someone found it on the dusty shelves of Heywood and got rid of it

(the 1990s was when the DHSS/IVS wound up the last of the Villers machines more or less)

(currently going through the chassis numbers to find when the FG chassis block ends and when the TA chassis block starts)

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Just "finished" My Model 67 research

the very interesting and cool thing is

we had a production number figure for the Model 67, of 5928, from the brief pictorial history of the invalid tricycle

now I always wondered just how accurate etc that was, seeing as when the first edition was written in 1976, they could of easily gone to AC and asked them!

and well based on all the DVLA bashing iv done over the past few days, that number is actually pretty much bang on accurate :) 

I also now have much more data on the Model 67, when each revision entred and ended production etc, which is very exciting, as beforehand there was actually not much known about the Model 67 in that regard, so im quite happy to have been able to patch that hole!

the only thing is, it doesn't look like that covered private examples

but it could be the Private 67's where just not included in the list/figures given by AC for one reason or another, or maybe AC never sold any private Model 67's!

or maybe, the numbers iv calculated take me to 5900, i'm still trying to place those last 28, perhaps those are the private examples...

 

for those wondering the Last Model 67 block looks to be FPB781J-FPB880J, looks like there was about a 2 month gap between the end of the Model 67 and the start of Model 70 production

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all this research also means, that I now have enough data/Model 67 chassis and reg numbers to be able to ID almost any Model 67 from its chassis number now, if say I have lost its reg plate or something such

until now, I only had enough data to ID Model 70's from their chassis numbers, so to be able to now also the same with a villers machine is a pretty big milestone!

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47 minutes ago, Mrs6C said:

^^^ Well done! This is a great research project!

Thanks :)

there's a couple blocks here and there that don't show up on the DVLA at all sadly, but I have enough data and pictures etc, that should a Model 67 with a chassis number in that range pop up, I think I could ID with a little bit of DVLA bashing and triangulation  :) 

now I just have to find/hope that the Model 67's have chassis number on the actual chassis itself, for those that have lost their Chassis plates!

for those wondering the timeline looks like this

it looks like The Model 67, the Mk14 was introduced in either late April or early May 1967, (the earliest to show up on the DVLA being SPD866F, 10 October 1967, but I know of the RPA block RPA451E-RPA550E), then production ran until Late Sept or early october 1968 (latest to still show up on the DVLA being VPL885G, 16 September 1968),

where in Late october or early November 1968 the Mk14A was introduced (earliest to show up being WPD607G, 12 November 1968), which ran until May 1969 (latest to show up being XPH961G, 15 May 1969),

where in June 1969 the Mk15 was introduced (earliest to show up being YPE918G, 8 July 1969), which ran until Late march 1971 (with the latest to show up being FPB854J, 23 March 1971)

and then in late June 1971, the Model 70 was put into production, with earliest Production Model 70 to show up being GPD790J 2 July 1971

 

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does anyone have a vehicle with even less populated data fields on the DVLA checker then this one? LOL

 

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(block is APK781H-APK980H for those wondering)

 

bonus Milk float for @Mrs6C as I think I mentioned before I do come across the odd milk float here and there as I go through the regs for invalid vehicle research :) 

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13 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

does anyone have a vehicle with even less populated data fields on the DVLA checker then this one? LOL

 

Arg if only the colour was also not stated id have a winner over here!, I wasn't even trying, I was just feeling out AC Model 64 chassis numbers!

(this is not a Model 64, im not sure what it is! body type is crane, first time I have seen make return as not available LOL)

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but speaking of Model 64s turns out theres a small block of about 10 Model 64s in the GPD-J reg range, sitting right before the First Model 70s :) 

and this one lasted an impressively long time!

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check it out an AC Model 64 that surived until the end!, until now of the electric machines it was only thought that 1 or maybe 2 Tippen Deltas and 1 Argson survived until the end, but clearly this Model 64 managed to hang on in there with them :) 

must of been fun at the approved repairer that was responsible for maintaining it, I can imagine it sitting in a row of Model 70s like the odd one out!

 

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BTW I went through all the AC Model 64 Mk5 chassis numbers and scooped all the reg numbers up :) 

it looks like there where only about 200 Mk5s made, and it looks like they were registered in small blocks of about 11 or 10

a surprising number do still show up on the DVLA, but given at this point in time the Model 64 would of been a "special case" vehicle its not too surprising, the user would of been given a Model 64 for a very specific reason rather then say a Model 70, so he would of probably have kept it until he/she gave it up etc, rather then have it replaced with a Model 70 or something such

its interesting since only about 200 Mk5s where made, that they went through the trouble of developing it with its parallelogram front suspension

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55 minutes ago, Mrs6C said:

Eeek! The spelling of 'practise' - the DVSA 'Learning Zone' should know better!!! :-o

One practises (verb) the practice (noun)... unless the heading was a command to the reader to 'Practise topics!' :-)

Anorak off, now...

heres the pages leading up to it, so you can see what the context is exactly :)

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(no im not this good! it just lets you do the questions you got wrong again, although if I may toot my horn a little, most I did get right first time and I only ever got 1 or 2 questions wrong in any one topic for those topics I did make a mistake in :) )

speaking of, I just finished all the topics today, and took a mock test, and managed to ace that!, so thats very good, I just have the hazard perception stuff to study/practice and then hopefully I should be ready for to do the theory test :) 

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does this count as late registration madness?, registered on the 3rd of August 1971, yet still a J Reg, when it should be a K reg!

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go up 3 cars to the next one to show up and you get GTE144K also from the 3rd of the 8th, but which is K reg as it should be!, (also heh GTE :) )

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since there where only about 546 Miller conversion Tippen deltas made, I decided to also knuckle down and go through the entire chassis number range :) 

from number 1 to 546 and scoop all the registrations I can for my records

On 3/27/2019 at 5:19 PM, egg said:

Lol. XTC would have been great!

sadly didn't find any starting with XTC, but there could be a Tippen Delta out there with that reg, as TC is Preston, which is the office the Miller Tippen Deltas where registered with

 

also along with GTE another one for the phone people :) 

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I also noticed for some reason, a lot of tippen deltas are down as not taxed for on road use, and a lot of these not taxed for on road use ones, have the same date of last V5 issued, and the same marked as scrapped date of the 25th or 26th of the 11th 1985, I wonder what its all about...

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1 minute ago, Eyersey1234 said:

What did the Tippen Delta look like LBF? 

generally like this, this is a Tippen Delta 8 :) (the Tippen Delta being the big blue thing, not the small white thing, thats a sinclair C5)

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before the Delta 8/Pre 1968 or so, Tippen Deltas had a more rounded front profile, and the Delta 5 and before had larger 16 inch wheels as seen below (the switch to 12 inch wheels happening with the Delta 6)

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and before that the Delta 2 had a single head lamp

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and the Delta 1 had wire wheels, and a darker blue finish

 

its worth noting that no new tippen Deltas where produced after early 1970 or so, with all later Tippen Deltas being Petrol ones that the DHSS had converted to electric :)

(making them one of the first if not the first case of mass conversion of a petrol vehicle to Electric!)

 

 

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