invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Mrs6C said:

The bigger challenges you'll face are your age, length of time with a full driving licence and number of years' driving experience.

A 'classic friendly' insurance company that is prepared to insure a young driver is probably the thing to investigate. Even if you're not insured on one of their actual 'classic' policies, they should have an appreciation that your car is a classic and be prepared to insure it for you, even on a regular policy.

May I suggest you could start by discussing your needs with these? There are others of course but these are companies I have used in the past and the customer experience has been good:

Adrian Flux:
https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/young-drivers/

Footman James:
https://www.footmanjames.co.uk/news/classic-car-insurance-young-driver

Peter James (he is the 'James' of 'Footman James' - he set up a new company some years back):
https://www.peterjamesinsurance.co.uk/index.php/products/classic-cars

indeed im well aware of that sadly

but yeah thats what I was wondering, for example, I did call Footman James just before I got REV just to see where i might stand in this whole mess

and the lady on the phone said sadly she could not quote me because I had not held a full driving licence for a year

but I dont know if they would of been able to quote me if I specifically asked for a "regular" policy or not (I think I will give them another call once I have my full licence and specifically mention right off the batt my unusual situation and see where it gets me)

ill definitely be having a look at those and I appreciate the recommendations  (and I think I have had a glance at them before in the past)

1 hour ago, Mrs6C said:

Limited mileage will reduce costs and may be a requirement of the insurance scheme anyway. If you can park REV off the public highway overnight that would be helpful. Does your apartment block have any off-street parking you could use?

 

I don't think limited mileage  will be too much a problem (I hope! I do have some pretty big plans involving driving up to scotland so famous last words LOL)

but I sadly don't think the dead end counts as "off street" parking even tho its a dead end only used for parking

you can see it here in this video  (behind TWC is just a brick wall/fence) but I don't actually know if this bit of land counts as public highway or is actually a private road belonging the council or such

 

so thats another thing I potentially have against me sadly

but I know most of these issues I face "dont matter" with normal insurance policies (say if I had a K11 Micra) it just might mean said policy is horribly expensive

and as much as id like cheap classic insurance I luckily have been able to budget for such an eventuality where this is not possible, hence my interest when @Six-cylinder mentioned Dolly was insured via a seemingly normal policy, since that would give me a potential option even if horribly expensive

(but I understand even if its a normal policy the company that may insure an invacar, may not cover new drivers and vice versa) 

[plasticvandan]

I'll save you some time,but by all means ring them,Peter James won't insure you unless you have a garage,a modern,and are about 4000 years old,footman won't insure you until your 25,flux will insure almost anyone,but it's roulette as to if its £300 or £3000. Then you have al the issues of wether your allowed to drive a three wheeler on your car licence as 3 wheelers returned to bike licences a few years ago,but at the same time were removed from car licences,regardless of wether it's registered as an invalid /disabled car,in addition to the usual "you want to insure a what?" questions you will get.i would look into specialist disability insurers,or the nabd.

a lot of mainstream insurers won't even quote/cover old stuff.

[loserone]

That's definitely public road.  You could look into a lockup, but that's going to be mega coin and possibly far away when you're in THE CITY

[egg]

Lancaster insurance probably worth a go as well.

[captain_70s]

The only company who would touch me as a yoof were Flux Direct, and they required me to have another car and be a member of the Dolly owners club.

Until I was 25 I was with normal insurers for the most part as specialists wouldn't cover me for daily commuting use. Again, most insurers wouldn't touch a car as old as the Dolly but it DID appear on the automated systems for the most part.

Even then the Dolly cost more to insure than the daily by a fair margin...

[LightBulbFun]

5 hours ago, plasticvandan said:

I'll save you some time,but by all means ring them,Peter James won't insure you unless you have a garage,a modern,and are about 4000 years old,footman won't insure you until your 25,flux will insure almost anyone,but it's roulette as to if its £300 or £3000. Then you have al the issues of wether your allowed to drive a three wheeler on your car licence as 3 wheelers returned to bike licences a few years ago,but at the same time were removed from car licences,regardless of wether it's registered as an invalid /disabled car,in addition to the usual "you want to insure a what?" questions you will get.i would look into specialist disability insurers,or the nabd.

a lot of mainstream insurers won't even quote/cover old stuff.

ah good to know, happy to hear that Flux MIGHT cover me, will bump them up the list of companies to call once I have my full driving licence  

as for the licence thing, as I have documented a few times in this thread now, my Model 70 is classed a Motor car by the RTA, RTOA and the RTRA, as she weighs more then 410Kg (she weighs 413.2Kg or 413.0Kg depending on which V5 you look at!)

it just so happens that REV is a 3 wheeler but in this case is not classed as one, its just she is a Motor car that happens to have 3 wheels instead of 4 if that makes any sense!

a bit like how a steam roller is technically a "3 wheeler" but I dont think the rules of a Reliant robin apply to those   

(and as a side note ill be turning 21 this year, so it will all be irrelevant in a few months anyway!)

but yeah if your 17 and want a 3 wheeler find a Post March 1976 Model 70 LOL 

5 hours ago, loserone said:

That's definitely public road.  You could look into a lockup, but that's going to be mega coin and possibly far away when you're in THE CITY

aye I figured such, yeah I dont think theres any lockups anywhere near here sadly

(well I do know of a few, but im pretty positive they are for the estate they reside in, and as you say they are a bit far from here at any rate)

4 hours ago, egg said:

Lancaster insurance probably worth a go as well.

 cool good to know ill keep em in mind  

3 hours ago, captain_70s said:

The only company who would touch me as a yoof were Flux Direct, and they required me to have another car and be a member of the Dolly owners club.

Until I was 25 I was with normal insurers for the most part as specialists wouldn't cover me for daily commuting use. Again, most insurers wouldn't touch a car as old as the Dolly but it DID appear on the automated systems for the most part.

Even then the Dolly cost more to insure than the daily by a fair margin...

currently im not commuting anywhere so I wont be using REV to commute anywhere

so at least I wont have that against me

(although in future that might change, for now im just focused on figuring out how to get her insured etc)

from what I have seen REV tends to show up as "Other british makes other" on automated systems I wonder how said systems know its British...

(well by automated systems I mean like those 3rd party car checkers, I imagine insurance companies use a similar thing when providing quick quotes etc)

 

as a side note for those policies that require you to have a another car etc, do they require you to be the main policy holder on said car, or just a named driver etc?

(or is this something that varies from insurer to insurer?) 

with my mum potentially getting a car at some point in time, she wants to have me as a named driver on her policy so I can pick her up from work and what have you when required, and im wonder if I might be able to play that to my advantage here when insuring REV

 

speaking of cars this arrived a few days ago from @mrbenn it was a good read, regardless if we end up with a minor or not  

(I apologize to @mrbenn for not posting about it sooner, my sleep cycle has been extra screwed recently and every time I remembered about it I was already in bed and did not want to get up to photograph it LOL)

[mrbenn]

No worries, Dez.

Sorry the mag was a bit dog-eared, I think I ran over it with my chair while it was waiting to be posted!

[LightBulbFun]

so I finally have reached somewhat of a conclusion with the Invacar Mk12c I have been trying to ID

sadly there is just not enough data for me to reliably say exactly what its Registration number (just too many blocks dont have invacars that show up and those that do show up are sadly obviously wrong)

but extrapolating backwards from XWC468F (XWC401F-XWC500F) my only solid datum point, then this unknown chassis number looks to be VPU841E or if I work backwards from WOO block (I THINK WOO900F-WOO999F) then I get VPU837E

definitely looks like it is part of the VPU801E-VPU900E block, but again i cant say for 100% certain because there's sadly too many unknowns a couple discrepancies here and there (but I think UNO399E's chassis number is actually wrong) 

as mentioned i have been able to detect a bunch of blocks, but since none of those have any cars that show up still I can't pinpoint what chassis numbers those blocks cover (and sadly those that do show up have their chassis number recorded wrong)

but at least if nothing else it should help narrow down what the Essex archive office needs to search for if we get to that stage  (since lets not forget that is an option here, I was just hoping here that I could ID the car without having to go to them, but it looks like that wont be possible sadly, so its a good thing they do have the records!)

(if the DVLA is to be believed VEV446E/VEV447E, WOO976F and ATW435F all have chassis numbers about 10 cars apart from each other LOL which obviously is not correct I think here the only one with its chassis number properly corect is ATW435F and that one does not even show up on the DVLA for me to check!) 

 

[Mrs6C]

17 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

but I know most of these issues I face "dont matter" with normal insurance policies (say if I had a K11 Micra) it just might mean said policy is horribly expensive

and as much as id like cheap classic insurance I luckily have been able to budget for such an eventuality where this is not possible, hence my interest when @Six-cylinder mentioned Dolly was insured via a seemingly normal policy, since that would give me a potential option even if horribly expensive

(but I understand even if its a normal policy the company that may insure an invacar, may not cover new drivers and vice versa) 

Sadly the insurance policy we used for Dolly isn't available for drivers under 25, so wouldn't be any use to you.

A lateral thought is: if your Mum were to get a suitable car, let's say a small-engined Micra or C1 or Aygo or similar for the sake of argument, perhaps you and she could take out insurance on that which would have you as the main driver with your Mum as a named driver.

You could build up your driving experience and insurance no-claims bonus for the first year or so on that. You could use it to drive around London and up here to see REV and take your Mum to/from work and get out and about. It would build up your experience and give you more choice regarding 'classic' policies in year 2, because you would have legitimate access to another vehicle on a 'regular' policy. You may find also that your 'regular' insurance for such a vehicle would be cheaper because you have a parent as a named driver on it. I have seen this happen before.

Though I know you want to drive REV soonest, if you could put that off for a year after your test and drive a regular car shared with your Mum to get that first important 12 month period out of the way, then you're mobile, your Mum gets use of a car and you build up your experience towards getting REV insured for the road. There are always more ways to approach things than the obvious!

[Angrydicky]

@LightBulbFun you should go to the Essex Record Office and spend a few hours in the reading room, it would be well worth it for you!

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Mrs6C said:

Sadly the insurance policy we used for Dolly isn't available for drivers under 25, so wouldn't be any use to you.

A lateral thought is: if your Mum were to get a suitable car, let's say a small-engined Micra or C1 or Aygo or similar for the sake of argument, perhaps you and she could take out insurance on that which would have you as the main driver with your Mum as a named driver.

You could build up your driving experience and insurance no-claims bonus for the first year or so on that. You could use it to drive around London and up here to see REV and take your Mum to/from work and get out and about. It would build up your experience and give you more choice regarding 'classic' policies in year 2, because you would have legitimate access to another vehicle on a 'regular' policy. You may find also that your 'regular' insurance for such a vehicle would be cheaper because you have a parent as a named driver on it. I have seen this happen before.

Though I know you want to drive REV soonest, if you could put that off for a year after your test and drive a regular car shared with your Mum to get that first important 12 month period out of the way, then you're mobile, your Mum gets use of a car and you build up your experience towards getting REV insured for the road. There are always more ways to approach things than the obvious!

ah I figured such on policy you used for dolly

I have had similar thoughts to yours, but I really don't want to to have to wait another year if not longer, if I can help it!

obviously that might be what happens just out of course if I cant find an insurance company that will cover me, but I will at least try first!

espically as I really want to make it to shitefest this year which only gives me about 4 months to get my licence, get REV roadworthy and insured...

thankfully I dont think REV needs too much work to be road worthy and we have most parts in stock to get her up to scratch, and im hopeful I could get the work needed during a FoD tinkering day or something such

my main worry there is with REVs fuel tank, im hoping to at least get that removed ASAP so it can be assessed whether or not its repairable or if I need to have a new one made up

im not adverse to getting a new one made up, but I know getting something made up takes time so id like to get a head start on it if possible/have it ready for the main fixing session, infact i would be tempted to have a new one made up/installed regardless for peace of mind, however that still requires the old tank to be removed for use a pattern, as @Zelandeth/TPA's tank is different to the one in REV so I cant simply just ask them to make the same tank they made for Zel

(although im trying to recall if the fuel tank you removed from Dolly was of the same type or not, and if that might suitable to have a pattern made up from for REV  )

it does also remind me I still need to find/get myself a good socket set etc!

1 hour ago, Angrydicky said:

@LightBulbFun you should go to the Essex Record Office and spend a few hours in the reading room, it would be well worth it for you!

id love to! but sadly Simon of the ICR jumped the gun and emailed them about it without properly consulting me first about it

and he hasn't even told me what his email was or what their response was

so im going to have to try and work with Simon on this and make sure everything is arranged properly and they understand what I want from them (which is basically everything they have on Invacar, both vehicle registration information and anything they have on the Company, Invacar Ltd)

(ideally id of just like to have with simons permission, emailed them on the ICRs behalf, but since simon already sent an email I cant just send another one without consulting with simon first)

 

[captain_70s]

4 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

as a side note for those policies that require you to have a another car etc, do they require you to be the main policy holder on said car, or just a named driver etc?

(or is this something that varies from insurer to insurer?) 

I think it's usually just "Have access to another vehicle for everyday use" Possibly worth a check on the online quote generators to check on the wording though as I've usually had another car available so it's never cropped up. I have the Acclaim down as the daily use vehicle on the Dolomite's policy which knocks about £100 off the cost...

I've also never found having the car kept on the street to cause any real price change compared to having it garaged, although admittedly I've always lived in fairly low risk areas.

It used to be the case you could get a cheap (under £500) classic policy at pretty much any age but the underwriter providing it stopped dishing it out just before I acquired a car, most of the classic specialists added an age limit and suddenly a lot of younger people found their MGB GT or Spitfire was now going to cost them 6x as much to insure a year...

[Angrydicky]

It would be quite straightforward to go and see the information yourself, since you know the registration blocks used and the ledgers are arranged in block order.

[Mrs6C]

31 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

and he hasn't even told me what his email was or what their response was

so im going to have to try and work with Simon on this and make sure everything is arranged properly and they understand what I want from them (which is basically everything they have on Invacar, both vehicle registration information and anything they have on the Company, Invacar Ltd)

(ideally id of just like to have with simons permission, emailed them on the ICRs behalf, but since simon already sent an email I cant just send another one without consulting with simon first)

 

A County Records Office is just that. You as a member of the public have every entitlement to visit and inspect whatever records in there that you like. You can do this as a private person for personal research. You don't need to be representing the ICR or any formal group and you don't need Simon's or anyone else's permission. You could let him know you are going there though and ask if he has any tips for specific material he would recommend for you to view? That way you are keeping him informed, but in an informal way.

17 minutes ago, Angrydicky said:

It would be quite straightforward to go and see the information yourself, since you know the registration blocks used and the ledgers are arranged in block order.

Indeed! It's usual to need to request materials in advance and you can do online searches beforehand to identify the material you want to see, for example search for 'Register of Motor Vehicles':https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/All_Results.aspx?intSearchType=11

I'd suggest you take along the necessary paperwork to get yourself a County Archives Readers' Network (CARN) pass. You will find it easier to be able to access original documents as a CARN passholder. It's the same basic process to get one across all participating County Records Offices, which includes Essex:
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50132/visiting_the_library_of_birmingham/1406/readers_tickets_-_county_archives_research_network_carn/2

You may need to pay to photocopy or photograph items but you should be able to find out what's involved, on the Esses Archives Online website.

[Mr Pastry]

12 minutes ago, Mrs6C said:

A County Records Office is just that. You as a member of the public have every entitlement to visit and inspect whatever records in there that you like. You can do this as a private person for personal research. You don't need to be representing the ICR or any formal group and you don't need Simon's or anyone else's permission. You could let him know you are going there though and ask if he has any tips for specific material he would recommend for you to view? That way you are keeping him informed, but in an informal way.

This.  Just get on with it.  You will find it very interesting, and learn a lot!

[Mrs6C]

If you were representing the ICR then yes, I'd advocate you ask Simon first about emailing them, but otherwise just go as yourself and enjoy. County Records Offices are fascinating and a good appreciation of them, what they do, how they work and how to make best use of them is a good thing to put on a CV and discuss at interviews if you are are demonstrating research skills for a job.

[LightBulbFun]

31 minutes ago, captain_70s said:

I think it's usually just "Have access to another vehicle for everyday use" Possibly worth a check on the online quote generators to check on the wording though as I've usually had another car available so it's never cropped up. I have the Acclaim down as the daily use vehicle on the Dolomite's policy which knocks about £100 off the cost...

I've also never found having the car kept on the street to cause any real price change compared to having it garaged, although admittedly I've always lived in fairly low risk areas.

It used to be the case you could get a cheap (under £500) classic policy at pretty much any age but the underwriter providing it stopped dishing it out just before I acquired a car, most of the classic specialists added an age limit and suddenly a lot of younger people found their MGB GT or Spitfire was now going to cost them 6x as much to insure a year...

ah interesting stuff, good to know thanks  

31 minutes ago, Angrydicky said:

It would be quite straightforward to go and see the information yourself, since you know the registration blocks used and the ledgers are arranged in block order.

 

14 minutes ago, Mrs6C said:

A County Records Office is just that. You as a member of the public have every entitlement to visit and inspect whatever records in there that you like. You can do this as a private person for personal research. You don't need to be representing the ICR or any formal group and you don't need Simon's or anyone else's permission. You could let him know you are going there though and ask if he has any tips for specific material he would recommend for you to view? That way you are keeping him informed, but in an informal way.

Indeed! It's usual to need to request materials in advance and you can do online searches beforehand to identify the material you want to see, for example search for 'Register of Motor Vehicles':https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/All_Results.aspx?intSearchType=11

I'd suggest you take along the necessary paperwork to get yourself a County Archives Readers' Network (CARN) pass. You will find it easier to be able to access original documents as a CARN passholder. It's the same basic process to get one across all participating County Records Offices, which includes Essex:
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50132/visiting_the_library_of_birmingham/1406/readers_tickets_-_county_archives_research_network_carn/2

You may need to pay to photocopy or photograph items but you should be able to find out what's involved, on the Esses Archives Online website.

 

Just now, Mr Pastry said:

This.  Just get on with it.  You will find it very interesting, and learn a lot!

ah interesting, I know that anyone can request documents etc, its what @egg did to find out the registration of his invacar  

but the only thing im not sure on is, if you have to consult with them first in advanced "id like to see such and such records"

or if you can walk up to the office and ask to see such and such records on the spot so to speak

although looking at this https://www.essexrecordoffice.co.uk/research/visit-the-searchroom/

it looks like yeah with a CARN pass or such you can just stroll up which is pretty exciting!

ill definitely have to make plans to visit,   

[egg]

I guess I only went through a 'formal' process with them because I thought that it would actually be cheaper to pay them to find one specific piece of information (which I wanted on headed paper) rather than the 200 mile round trip, and document searching /photocopying etc myself. But I reckon for a general enquiry just turn up and see (but yes you'll need a CARN, I used to have one but expired)

I've pitched up at churches and history centres looking for family history stuff without any prep before, and got stuff.

[Mr Pastry]

Record Offices are usually helpful if you just rock up - it's their job - but it might save time or a wasted journey if you contact them first and outline what you want to see.

[Angrydicky]

I've been to the Essex office twice - it's very straightforward. You give them your details the first time to sign up for a CARN ticket, have to agree not to take photos or take pens into the reading room (pencils are ok) and you are allowed in. You just order the ledgers you want to look at one by one on the computer, and your name comes up on a screen when it's ready. The assistant weighs the ledger on a set of scales before you are given it and after you give it back.  

[High Jetter]

When you're planning to go you could contact Simon and just ask if there's anything he'd like you to look for whilst there, as a mater of courtesy if nothing else?

[LightBulbFun]

34 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

When you're planning to go you could contact Simon and just ask if there's anything he'd like you to look for whilst there, as a mater of courtesy if nothing else?

oh yeah for sure, ideally id like to see if I can get Simon and more specifically stuart to come with me in person,

and ill also when I do go, check here if anyone with a Pre 1974 Essex car needs anything checked while im there!  (since ill probably end up going through all the ledgers anyway LOL)

one thing im most curious about is Simon has an Invacar Mk8B, aka a Mk8A fitted with a 242cc twin cylinder british anzani engine, instead of the normal 197cc Villiers jobby

now the Mk8B never really went into production because it was a bit lary and nonstandard for the Ministry, but a few examples where made, and Simons somehow ended up in australia for many years (but is now back in the UK)

and the question I wonder is was it ever registered in england or was it sent directly to australia after the mystery decided not to order any

 

other things im curious about is, XGX224 and PWC801, see XGX224 is 1 chassis number up from PWC801, so theoretically would be PWC802

however XGX224 is the one sent to the US when new, and supposedly hence why it has the plate XGX224 as I was told that was a temporary plate for export of sorts

so it will be interesting to see what PWC802 is in the ledger (my personal guess assuming PWC801 is part of a block and not a stand alone car, is that PWC802 will be an Invacar but 2 chassis numbers away from PWC801 instead of 1)

and there are other such things you get the idea

(like it will be interesting to see how and to who OOO661M and PPU942M and POO214M where registered, sadly I cant check REV since she was registered after 1974) 

and obviously theres all the unknown invacars im hoping to ID

 

as for post 1974 vehicles, I wonder who do you go to to check the registration records those vehicles?

I guess the DVLA? but I don't think the DVLA has an archives office you can browse LOL

[Mr Pastry]

You had better do all this stuff before you get your own cars on the road, because then you will be far too busy with actual chassis to worry about any numbers they might have!

 

 

 

[LightBulbFun]

20 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

You had better do all this stuff before you get your own cars on the road, because then you will be far too busy with actual chassis to worry about any numbers they might have!

haha Thankfully unlike pretty much every other 1970's british car in existence

rust is not an issue on the Model 70, whatever steel they built the chassis out of and whatever they undercoated them with was some seriously good stuff

and probably helps that the chassis a quite substantial thing for such a size of vehicle, the only main "problem" spots on a Model 70 is the window frames and the floor

I do still want to get a good look under REV and see if her undercoating needs refreshing or such, I dont know what stuff they used originally, so ill probably end up taking her to the same place @dollywobbler took the Skoda, assuming they can handle a 3 wheeler!

(I did have a cursory look at the FoD when she was up on stands to inpsect her fuel tank situation, luckily nothing scary stood out, did note that I think the front brake is grabbing slightly as the front wheel does not spin freely in the air, and I think it should)

[LightBulbFun]

had my 18th lesson today

I think im finally getting the hang of this parallel parking malarky although im still quite slow at it

as previously mentioned we are now treating each lesson as if it was a mock test of sorts, so this means with minimal input from the instructor, so he can see how I do as if I was on my own and see what I have learnt and what may need work etc,

so each lesson we will try and do at least 1 manuevor, I think for the next lesson he wants to do pulling into a parking bay (then I imagine after that we will do pulling over to the right again and so forth)

obviously its still a lesson so if im about to do something wrong etc he will step in/speak up or if I get stuck I can ask him what to do, but the aim of the game is to avoid that so its just a case of following directional instructions

I did ask him about the practical test, and he said that yeah you also just book that online/via the DVLA yourself like the theory test, so cant say how long the lead times etc will be, other then they probably wont have whatever date it is your hoping for! although he did mention something about getting an earlier date via driving test cancellations, I think its a practical test only thing? but its interesting way of doing things from just googling about it quickly just now

(have not ask him yet when he thought id be ready for my practical yet, as I know ill be having lessons up to the 21st regardless, then once I have my theory done then ill ask him  )

next lesson is booked for friday  

[barrett]

Some passive Invacar spotting on youtube. Video title as below. The beautiful Harper looks fire-damaged to me. Registration 547 >>>

And then in the next 'scene' perched high in the background is a lonely Invacar Mk11!

[LightBulbFun]

2 hours ago, barrett said:

Some passive Invacar spotting on youtube. Video title as below. The beautiful Harper looks fire-damaged to me. Registration 547 >>>

And then in the next 'scene' perched high in the background is a lonely Invacar Mk11!

I dont think  the Harper is fire damaged, they where made of fibreglass so could of easily just had its roof smashed off, and some where apparently floppy tops as well, shame to see one in such a state tho

on the note of Harpers, its said the Stanley Mk7 was produced until 1965 so that means there where/are likely Suffix plate Harpers out there and thats a weird thought  

im hoping some day I can find one that still shows up on the DVLA but alas not found anything so far

 

but Ooh that Invacar is a very impressive spot!

im not 100% sure if its a Mk10A or an Mk11 (although if I had to say I think its a Mk10A from the lack of headlamp cowls)

either way its a VERY impressive spot  

as your screen shot, makes it the 3rd known picture of a Mk10A!

after the one in the Bert greeves archives, this one that I dug up, and now yours  

(the most curious thing is the text "in the two-seater invalid car" )

[High Jetter]

Kinda looks like there's just room for 2, but for me the the curious thing is Marble Arch to the A de T in under 2.5 hours!

[LightBulbFun]

12 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

Kinda looks like there's just room for 2, but for me the the curious thing is Marble Arch to the A de T in under 2.5 hours!

aye and the offset windscreen wiper also makes me think it is a 2 seater

but I really wonder where there other Mk10A/11's 2 seaters or is his a private example specially constructed? or just what the internal layout looked like!

AFAIK no ministry Invalid vehicle (apart from adapted Minis and Morris Minors) where more then single seaters

as for the time, it says Air race, so unless Invacars can also Fly (I mean @egg's Mk12 must have got stuck on that ledge/in that tree somehow ) I think he just used the Invacar to get to the airport or what have you

I think to do with this

 

[LightBulbFun]

heres a interesting one I had last night, I was idley checking the Tippen Delta out on how many left and I noticed it was showing as 2 licenced from 1974

now I only know of 1 surviving 1974 Tippen Delta YTB768N, which is showing not taxed for on road use (I dont actually know of any Tippen Delta that is Taxed and insured sadly)

and also I have at some point or another checked every 1970+ Tippen delta that shows up on the DVLA documented and none where showing as taxed

so I was about to go double check things, when I suddenly realised,

does being "Not taxed for on road use" count as being licenced or SORN or unlicensed?

further mysterfied by the fact (before the DVLA checker changed) some not taxed for on road use vehicles would come up as "Tax not due" where as others would say "not taxed" and I even caught a good number at one point all showing "taxed and due" for a while 

as documented here https://autoshite.com/topic/32723-invacar-model-70-acquired-and-general-ramble-thread-index-on-page-1-phase-2-finding-a-suitable-driving-schoolinstructor-getting-lessons-and-a-licence-18th-lesson-had-mum-wants-a-car/?do=findComment&comment=1894639

 

sadly with the most recent DVLA checker update, it no longer reports the actual tax status and just has the same "not taxed for on road use" text from the green box

 

 

(I will double check the 1974 portion of my Tippen Delta chassis list to be safe!)