UmBongo Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44481390 Older cars face Glasgow city centre banOlder cars will be banned from Glasgow city centre in four years time after councillors agreed to extend a low emission zone (LEZ) to all vehicles.An LEZ will apply to 20% buses from the end of 2018, rising to 100% by December 2022. Cars will need to meet the strict standards from the end of 2022.After that date petrol cars made before 2005 and diesels built before September 2014 will not be allowed in the zone.The council said it was "forging a path towards cleaner air".But environmental campaign group Friends of the Earth Scotland said the timetable lacked ambition, condemning people to illegal levels of air pollution for years to come.The policy to extend the zone to all vehicles will now be subject to an "economic appraisal" and a consultation exercise over the next 12-18 months.Anna Richardson, city convener for sustainability and carbon reduction, said: "Improving the quality of the air we breathe is a key priority for the city and so I'm proud to stand behind this progressive policy that will see Glasgow introduce Scotland's first low emission zone by the end of the year."Partnership working has resulted in substantial improvements to air quality however it remains a public health concern."The LEZ will make significant reductions to air pollution in the city centre and when fully implemented, will cover all vehicles by December 2022. This will ensure we achieve the improvements in air quality our city deserves." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I work in Glasgow and would never drive in the city, it's crazy so I can continue to drive old chod elsewhere and unaffected. Whilst I don't disagree with improving things for future generations, I am a bit skeptical about what is driving these proposals. Seems like its a 'quick win' when Glasgow has far more pressing issues that are probably much more difficult to deal with. Homelessness, drink, drugs, poverty, violence, housing, the list goes on. BeEP, rml2345, Angrydicky and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexi Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 As a Glaswegian..............I couldn't give a monkeys. I only go into Bills Tool store and I can take wife's roller skate Jazz. They are quite right as my old C5 is a filthy thing, but those fuckin' buses man..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 but those fuckin' buses man..... The buses will have to clean up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Does that mean my petrol guzzing 2005 3.0 Subaru CAN continue to drive into Glasgow? Also, can one at least get to an underground station? Flat4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 It will possibly mean lots of nice cheap cars for Scotoshiters though! Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2_craig Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The buses will have to clean up as well.You got that right! The bus fleet age is insane compared to Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Leeds is planning a very tight LEZ zone shortly with anything not Euro5 being stung to enter the city, this really screws up an old employer of mine, as his yard is slap bang in the middle of the zone, and so is one of First's 2 depots in the city, First have heavily invested in the fleet with a fair few euro6 motors, but Tetley has sod all vehicles that are euro5 barring the leased BMCs which were all converted a year or so ago, Das Reichbussen use mainly Euro5 buses in to the city, but it will spell the end of smaller operators, cab drivers are up in arms over it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Fine by me, the Locost was registered in 2005... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms206 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Considering that Glasgow is the only city in Britain with a motorway running more or less right through the city centre, how do they plan to police that? I can feel a dropped bollock coming on. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk The Moog, Twiggy, Flat4 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Good. Just like London, I never wanted my shiter to step tyre in there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Its not been worth entering city centres for years. Let's be right, in 2022 a 2005 car will be fairly old so I can't see it making a huge impact. SiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Considering that Glasgow is the only city in Britain with a motorway running more or less right through the city centre, how do they plan to police that? I can feel a dropped bollock coming on. Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkExactly what I have been wondering too.... sutty2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 There are still cars that came to visit the garden festival in 1988 orbiting Glasgow’s one way system as it’s so fucking hard to navigate . Il be happy if I don’t have to drive there again. Lacquer Peel, cms206, Talbot and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabamaShrimp Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 'shop closing?' 'people loosing their jobs?``high street closing and Amazon taking over?' Then fuck you let's ban old cars from various city's and make the place even worse! We can say it's for the environment but if you pay us some money, as that cures everything, you can still drive about. Bit poor, can't afford a new car? Like old cars? Fuck you! Tbh I can see why people think this is a good idea but really it isn't. It's essentially a restriction on a few when really air pollution needs tackling at a global level. theshadow, BeEP, danthecapriman and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 What next a tax on irn bru and battered mars bars oldcars, stonedagain, Angrydicky and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Like everything else today its not designed with the working person in mind. oldcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngarty Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Is this an LEZ zone outright ban or is it if you have money feel free to toodle about in your wood burning Chernobyl built coal heated smog machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Town centres are dying. Lets speed things up by banning older vehicles. oldcars, Laseraligningfoofooflanges and barefoot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 What next a tax on irn bru and battered mars barsDon’t go there people are hoarding the “old recipe” irnbru after the changed the recipe to reduce sugar.We could be in for the irnbru riots when this old stock runs dry. oldcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 'shop closing?' 'people loosing their jobs?``high street closing and Amazon taking over?' Then fuck you let's ban old cars from various city's and make the place even worse! We can say it's for the environment but if you pay us some money, as that cures everything, you can still drive about. Bit poor, can't afford a new car? Like old cars? Fuck you! Tbh I can see why people think this is a good idea but really it isn't. It's essentially a restriction on a few when really air pollution needs tackling at a global level.Local air pollution is a big problem in cities. I wonder one hidden incentive is reducing congestion for the wealthy few. Make park and ride car parks and the transport to the city and back free, it might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Like everything else today its not designed with the working person in mind.How many average 'working people' commute into major cities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Plenty where I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_70s Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I never drive into the city centre anyway, that's what trains are for. SiC, Junkman and Eddie Honda 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 How many average 'working people' commute into major cities?Every trade you can think of except possibly labourer into London or other cities everyday. Don't even think about taking a bag of sharp pointy things on public transport. Nobody actually lives in city centres and does a manual job, as a rule there's no storage space or secure parking. By 2022 what do they expect the average age of the car fleet to be in Glasgow, I bet most would be compliant and producing massively more particulates.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 How many average 'working people' commute into major cities?In Tyne and Wear, enough that a competitive multi modal public transport system cant handle peak demand. Cars are the only choice for a lot of people as theres not enough seats for bums at peak times and timetables are reaching saturation. Laseraligningfoofooflanges and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I can see a jobbing builder popping off down to Travis Perkins for a length of 3x2 on the bus. Alusilber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 'shop closing?''people loosing their jobs?``high street closing and Amazon taking over?' Then fuck you let's ban old cars from various city's and make the place even worse! We can say it's for the environment but if you pay us some money, as that cures everything, you can still drive about. Bit poor, can't afford a new car? Like old cars? Fuck you! Tbh I can see why people think this is a good idea but really it isn't. It's essentially a restriction on a few when really air pollution needs tackling at a global level.This, could not have put it better myself. Its just yet another tax. AlabamaShrimp and Laseraligningfoofooflanges 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 My office is on Cowcaddens Road, a busy arterial route in and out of the city. There are a large number of older cars on this road, quite a lot are shiteworthy too so that rules them out. There are also a lot and I mean a lot, pre Sept 2014 diesel taxis. What are the owners/ companies supposed to do there?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Fuck them they're only working folk out making a living. They'll just have to borrow money and buy a new taxi. (I'm saying this in jest...) oldcars, AlabamaShrimp and Flat4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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