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check out my RR resto thread for more info of my addiction

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/26663-range-rover-resto-72-project-autospark-wizardry-page-12/page-1

 

I am in deep but NOT too deep.....

 

 

yet

 

Been enjoying your thread. I'd say you're in about as deep as it gets, but it doesn't seem to be a problem for you!

 

I'm happy farming the crappier jobs out to the garage, wimp that I am. I can proudly say that I've never rebuilt an engine that's actually worked properly afterwards.

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With the old rad out, you can see the extent of its crapness more clearly. Most of that top leak and staining was hidden under the shroud:

 

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The front of the rad is hidden by the aircon condenser, so impossible to clean without removing one or the other. Plenty of mud, leaves and dead insects here - yum:

 

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The engine bay could do with some tidying whilst the rad is out, plus I'm planning on removing what hoses I can and cleaning all the crustiness off the stubs:

 

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Is there any point in keeping the old rad? Any value to anyone, or should I just take it to the tip?

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I punctured my radiator yesterday with a set of pliers .....long story. Today I bought a gas micro soldering iron and soldered the hole up seem to have worked, time will tell though. Might be work a try.

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MOAR PICTURES

 

Love a Bit of RR porn....or generally ANY LR porn for that matter

had 3 RRC's

5Discoveries

1 Freeloader

1 110 defender

1 90 defender

6 -sh swb 88's

8-ish Lwb 109's

 

 

would love another series, but prices have gone stooped, cuz of MOT n TAX FREE guv

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OK, have a few of the IIA:

 

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Currently retired to the field under a tarp following its resto - I can't get the brakes right, and 4 other cars means I don't really have a use for it right now. I'll drag it out and have it chugging around at some point, maybe when the RR's sorted.

 

Prices are very silly, I agree. The last few years Series LR's have started fetching far more than I would say they're worth - I don't know how many people would actually want to drive these things, and are capable of fixing them themselves. Surely the luxurydriving experience and the prohibitive costs of paying someone else to do all the inevitable spannering must make the pool of potential owners pretty small?

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Currently retired to the field under a tarp following its resto - I can't get the brakes right, and 4 other cars means I don't really have a use for it right now. I'll drag it out and have it chugging around at some point, maybe when the RR's sorted.

 

Prices are very silly, I agree. The last few years Series LR's have started fetching far more than I would say they're worth - I don't know how many people would actually want to drive these things, and are capable of fixing them themselves. Surely the luxurydriving experience and the prohibitive costs of paying someone else to do all the inevitable spannering must make the pool of potential owners pretty small?

 

Conversely, people don't mind so much spend coinage on vehicles if they know they'll hold their value or even increase. I'm attempting to get my late S3 back on the road after a year and shelling out £800 on a total refurb of the cooling system, decent new battery and some tarting up of the engine bay didn't hurt so much given it's now worth a more than the £1500 I paid in 2007. Moreover, if you're capable of reading a manual series LRs are as about as straight forward as you can get should you wish to have a bash at getting your hand dirty. I suppose it's the case that a lot of people these days aren't willing to.

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So, all hoses cleaned up and re-fitted, expansion tank cleaned and re-fitted (clean inside, but needed some Waxoyl throwing at the inner wing underneath it).

 

Go to fit the new rad and what's this? It rattles! Perhaps there's a free gift inside it for me! I'll give it a good shake and see if it'll come out through the top hose:

 

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Hmmm. Doesn't look like much of a free gift. More like bits of smashed header tank. Let's have a look:

 

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Ah, brilliant.

 

Guess this won't be going in today. Off to chase the supplier for a new one...

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not liked for the damage but gives you an opportunity to get the original recored.

 

boston recore did a sterling job on mine ages ago.

 

used old stock is sometimes way better than new reproduction stuff that is available. you will find out

 

I suspect you're right, but I could do with getting it back on the road for the start of next week so I've gone for another Nissens replacement. Hope this one isn't delivered by badgers!

 

I'll hang onto the old rad and look at getting it re-cored as a spare. It doesn't sound like the repro ones have quite the longevity of the originals.

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not liked for the damage but gives you an opportunity to get the original recored.

 

boston recore did a sterling job on mine ages ago.

 

used old stock is sometimes way better than new reproduction stuff that is available. you will find out

 

I got my Land Rover S3 radiator back in a matter of days very recently using Guilford Rads. It could have been done quicker by sending one in exchange, but I insisted on having my original one re-cored just to ensure it was the correct fit.

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Nissens' history:

 

...2010 - Establishment of the Nissens Cooling Solutions Factory in Tjanjin, China.

 

1. Never buy from a company that calls its services or products "solutions", except its making paint strippers or other delightfully toxic chemicals.

 

2. Never buy anything made in China, except model cars.

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Nissens' history:
 
...2010 - Establishment of the Nissens Cooling Solutions Factory in Tjanjin, China.
 
1. Never buy from a company that calls its services or products "solutions", except its making paint strippers or other delightfully toxic chemicals.
 
2. Never buy anything made in China, except model cars.

 

 

Normally my policy too.

 

However, to be fair, it looks a decently made rad apart from the transit damage. The OE part from Land Rover is over £1k!

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OK, have a few of the IIA:

 

KUoSvEQ.jpg

 

iO4hGm4.jpg

 

ow9oAP5.jpg

 

Currently retired to the field under a tarp following its resto - I can't get the brakes right, and 4 other cars means I don't really have a use for it right now. I'll drag it out and have it chugging around at some point, maybe when the RR's sorted.

 

Prices are very silly, I agree. The last few years Series LR's have started fetching far more than I would say they're worth - I don't know how many people would actually want to drive these things, and are capable of fixing them themselves. Surely the luxurydriving experience and the prohibitive costs of paying someone else to do all the inevitable spannering must make the pool of potential owners pretty small?

had brake hassles on my 2....changed ALL the lines, master cylinder twice, drums, pads, slave cylinders, must have got through 3 gallons on brake fluid...gave up sold it on......few months later a friend with a LR repair place had a series 3 come in with same fault, did same as me and swapped allsorts...turned out to be the reservoir had a few specs of crap in there that was randomly blocking the out put....may be worth a try

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had brake hassles on my 2....changed ALL the lines, master cylinder twice, drums, pads, slave cylinders, must have got through 3 gallons on brake fluid...gave up sold it on......few months later a friend with a LR repair place had a series 3 come in with same fault, did same as me and swapped allsorts...turned out to be the reservoir had a few specs of crap in there that was randomly blocking the out put....may be worth a try

 

I'm sure you know that LR series are absolutely notorious for brake bleeding issues with the S3 109 being the king of grief. Mine suffered the same thing after putting in a new servo and master cylinder and that was what led to it being off the road for a year. That said, I recently started it, and like the MGB my Dad has, the air seems to have worked its way out of the system. The S3 also has a PDWA valve:

 

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/14123/NRC4880-BRAKE-SYSTEM-PDWA-VALVE.html

 

Which is some kind of voodoo part and was going to be my final port of call until ignoring the LR become the preferred choice.

 

I'm never sure why I own a Series LR other than it's quite fun to work on from time-to-time. That and it's handy for a visit to the tip twice a year!

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It's for all the reasons listed above that I have recently sacked off my series land-rover. Worth too much, and I'll never get around to restoring it. It went to a serial restorer, so at least it will live on. Got more for it after it had been sitting in a field for a decade than I paid for it as a running MOT'd vehicle in 2000. Bonkers.

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Replacement rad arrived today, just in time to fit over the weekend for Monday.

 

Different vendor this time, so hopefully better packaged. Damaged one returned to vendor, so refund on the way.

 

At least this one should be OK. Lightning can't strike twice, can it? Packaging looks ok anyway. I'll just check it over before I fit the thing. But what's this?

 

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For fuck's sake.

 

Yes, it's a different radiator, smashed in the same place. Check the pics.

 

£350 worth of knackered sodding radiators.

 

Re-core here I come!

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Different couriers. DPD for the first, Royal Mail for the second.

The packaging is just shit. Completely unfit for purpose. I'd let Nissens know, but I don't see why I should performance manage them as well as the guys I'm paid to!

Damage Parcels Delivered and the Royal Fail and nobody is keeping their cool. That is a lot of waste and you can't be the first. Gone are the days you could just nip into town and drop the old rad off, pick it up in the way home. The last time I had a Rad re-cored I took it to a chap working from a barn, dropped it off day 1 and picked it up day 3. It was only a small rad in copper brass build, think he charged me about £25. FF a few years and recycling has given way to stuff made from plastic from over the water, it is what we call progress.........

 

But then again we used to re-cycle milk bottles made form glass and pop bottles made from glass, now we throw away the glass and throw away the plastic

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I heard recently that the glass we put in the recycling bin .... gets crushed and sold on as a hard core for construction. FFS.

 

Shirley those rear wheel arches and boot floor are in far better nick than they have any right to be. Anyway, loving this thread. Can't get enough vicarious LR/RR enjoyment, me! 

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I heard recently that the glass we put in the recycling bin .... gets crushed and sold on as a hard core for construction. FFS.

 

Castle Donington glass is driven sixty miles north to Doncaster before they smash it up for hardcore. How eco is that?

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