Asimo Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I'd like to know what this is. The photo is in an old family album and was taken in the Colwyn Bay / Llandudno area. The hat is most likely worn by my grandma or her sister, who were driving before WW1. There is some writing on the rear wheel which I can't quite read, the mascot thing on the radiator cap looks like an AA badge. The vents on top of the headlights suggest to me they are gas lights. Whatever, I think it looks relatively up-market in a sporty sort of way. Any ideas Autoshite collective? spike60, davehedgehog31, Ellunsedo and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Looks familiar like a model of yesteryear . /\ My Great Grandfather sitting in the back ,of his Lordships shitheap , Faversham . T Ford ? Lord Harris ? Squire_Dawson, JeeExEll and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Rustbucket Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 That's a much bigger and grander car than a Model T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overrun Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 RHD JDM import yo is it a GT-R? Kringle, Datsuncog, Slartibartfast and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the van Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Wheels look similar to those on the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost so coach built sports body on Rolls chassis??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 By the shape of the cowl and the radiator, it looks like a Wolseley. Will dig further... Asimo and richardmorris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 I reckon the writing on the wheel could be"Wolseley" chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 That looks very much, to me, like a rebodied limousine or even hearse. The centre 2 seat tourer section almost looks like a fibre glass Hot Rod tub! The dickie ( dicky?) seat section looks big enough for 2 rows, as well.Unfortunately I have no knowledge or things this old and the fact that hundreds of firms sprang up and dissapeared after making only a few cars , isn't going to help.If only we had someone on here who works at possibly the only magazine in the World that specialises in such stuff... eddyramrod and RayMK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kringle Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Could it be the wheel manufacturer Asimo? Im thinking its a Crossley of some kind. That central tub is quite a prominent feature. JeeExEll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kringle Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Somewhat similar, look at the door handle. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 The body style was quite common back then, as was putting a new or secondhand tub on a serviceable chassis. I also wondered whether it was a rebodied Rolls Royce because 'R's can be mistaken for 'A's - and for the shear size of the thing. The raked windshield is distinctive, but maybe these were available from a pre-war forerunner of Halfords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the van Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Deffo an AA badge fitted in front of the rad cap.There's a maker's plate on the battery box but resolution not good enough to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Here is a similar similar body style on a 1914 Packard 6. Thought its not a Packard just a similar look. So it would date the car to circa 1914? I can see Dunlop? on the wheels themselves which would indicate a car of British manfacture? Its an upmarket car so one of the posh manufacturers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Packard 6 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Torana Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Don't think that's an AA badge - I reckon it's a "calormeter" - the temperature gauge of it's day - usually an aftermarket accessory from the days before temperature senders and dashboard gauges were common. Not that that helps ID the car in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Torana Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 From the shape of the bonnet & radiator grille, I'm thinking Packard too. It's definitely American, and I can say the body style was called a "roadster" in the parlance of the time, with a dickey or rumble seat. The footstep to get up into it was a nice touch, and no doubt saved the mudguard from getting trampled on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I was thinking not Packard by the absence of bonnet vents and the Dunlop wheels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I think it's a ca 1910 Wolseley Siddeley 16/20 hp.It has the typical W-S scuttle of the era and everything else fits pretty well too. richardthestag, Magnificent Rustbucket, chaseracer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Here is a cabriolet version with the same scuttle and the same windscreen, but the upper section is removed from the roadster: somewhatfoolish, richardthestag, John F and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Jawühlmaus! That matches the lines of the front wing as well. Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 There are a lot of similarities to that most obvious contender the Ghost. The wheels in particular, with that bolted on ring, look almost identical. I suppose if one was making a rakish sports car from an old Wolseley, Crossley, Alldays and Onions or whatever, you might try to make it look a bit like the poshest most famous car you'd heard of. Which brings me to the main reason I think it's not a Royce, or any other common well known make;The picture would be known in the family through the generations as " The picture of Granny in a Rolls Royce" Everybody knows what they are and it wouldn't get lost with the passage of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire_Dawson Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Wheels look similar to those on the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost so coach built sports body on Rolls chassis??. That's what I was thinking - the wheels are very distinctive. Certainly not a Packard as the wheel hubs do not bear the Packard red hexagon. Looks a magnificent automobile whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Some - by far not all - Silver Ghosts were fitted with these Warland Dual Rim wheels, which were generally available.They are not a unique feature of, or specific to, Rolls Royces. Asimo and NorfolkNWeigh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Looks familiar like a model of yesteryear MoY 1913 Cadillac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpiusMaximus Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 RHD JDM import yo is it a GT-R? AE86 for maximum scene points. Sorry I can't actually be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I'm still thinking it's based on a Rolls Royce chassis. From the photo, the rear suspension has semi elliptic leaf springs but there's a double shackle arrangement at the rear, as would be required if there was also a transverse leaf spring supporting the rear end of the springs. I doubt that this arrangement was exclusive to a particular marque, but some pre-WW1 RR models featured such a set-up, whereas the Wolseley didn't.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Silver_Ghost#/media/File:Rolls_Royce_Silverghost_AX201_restore3.jpg I still don't really know what it is though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eifion Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I've got no idea about the car, but the photo was taken in Old Colwyn. That's the old Queen's Hotel in the background which is here. Asimo, Magnificent Rustbucket and Junkman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyethenoo Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I think that could be a very early Pierce-Arrow? http://www.pierce-arrow.org/features/feature26/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 The body style is similar, but Pierce Arrows of that size and period had 3/4 elliptic rear springs. I think the car in question is a one-off body to a style which was quite popular at the time, mounted on an available chassis with a distinctive transverse leaf supporting the rear ends of the rear longitudinal leaf springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I've got no idea about the car, but the photo was taken in Old Colwyn. That's the old Queen's Hotel in the background which is here. Fantastic! Photograph was taken here:7 Woodland Avehttps://tinyurl.com/y76rp4xu Asimo, Christine, Magnificent Rustbucket and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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