Shirley Knott Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Glad it's not just me RE driveway madness, the idea of a Capri shaped outline genuinely made me laugh! I've been getting the leakage immediately with a mixture washing up liquid and bio washing powder scrubbed in with a stuff brush. If left for a week or two before washing off that seems to lift it. I'd given some thought to the 850's and also the P1 V70's too which are based on the same platform I think? Nothings ruled out, but I've always loved the look of the P2's and didn't realize how cheap they'd become until looking after selling the 940. Now looks like it's the time to dive in. A manual NA petrol seems to be the best shout in terms of avoiding complexity and expensive bills, they're cheaper/less desirable than the diesel or turbo models and less likely to have taxi mileages too. danthecapriman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 In doing the Land Cruiser yeaterday, we decided to pressure wash its "patch" afterwards. There is now a very clean and not entirely unnoticeable rectangle outside the unit. Oops! Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 No collection thread for this as it was only about 6 miles away. I've been incredibly daft and bought a V70 for £350 after stumbling across it on Gumtree, the advert had been up for 20 minutes when I spotted it and within an hour it was parked on my drive... The good- Low mileage at 89K, full leather in good nick, clutch seems healthy, decent tyres all round, cheap. The bad- Various warnings displayed on the dash about 'position lamps' being out, alarm malfunctions (Battery probably) and service being due. Slightly wobbly/droopy idle when coming off the the throttle (Possible OMGETMF or other sinister goings on) Bogo spec 2.4 NA manual. Timing belt fine on mileage but 1 year overdue, and that's working on Volvo's probably overly generous 10 year interval. Rear door locks don't open on the central locking. The ugly- The car has character, and by that I mean pretty much every panel has at least some imperfections be it small parking type dings or scratches. Needs a good valet. For this kind of money there's almost certainly something seriously wrong that I'm not aware of yet. The rationale behind buying it (And I really probably shouldn't have) is that I won't worry about it too much as it's not that much more than scrap value, should I decide to cut my losses I can probably look to make at least a good portion of my stake back. Wish me luck! Heidel_Kakao, tobyd, Shep Shepherd and 18 others 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Looks like a potential adventure sorting it out a bit. Can’t see how you can go wrong for £350 and just six miles away! Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scdan4 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 There’s a hidden bulb in the rear clusters (roughly in the middle) that could well be the position lamp if you can’t find any obvious bulbs out. dissappointed you don’t need a full set of tyres. looks good to me Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 That looks well bought for not much cash. Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Looks lively for what little you paid. In fact, Father Fumbler paid £50 more for his current V70. His is a run-out pre-facelift one which was complete with young-children-in-the-back fallout and fence panels in the driver's door to keep the window up! Ohdearme and Shirley Knott 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthecapriman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Ha! I bet you end up making it a minter! Within a month the interior will have been stripped out for cleaning and you’ll be covered head to foot in Dynax! Nice buy though. Looks a lovely old thing, and you can’t go wrong at that money. Shirley Knott and Sudsprint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Right, having finally got round to insuring this and sticking some tax on it today I can now answer the question... What could possibly go wrong? Well in no particular order.... Warning messages made up of "Engine system service required", "Alarm system service required" and "Position light failure". Back door locks often don't open/close on central locking. Both offside wheels hot after a lengthy drive and smelling of brakes, idle can't seem to settle itself and sits anywhere between 500-800rpm fluctuating regularly, slight misfire occasionally circa 2000rpm. That seems to be about it. All of that aside, I had the car out running errands today and clocked up 40 miles. In short it holds temperature properly, heaters are red hot, it deals with stop start traffic and also motorway work equally well, other the occasional idle droop it drives really nicely, revs freely and is incredibly smooth and comfortable. Weirdly it doesn't suffer from any of the suspension clunks and knocks I'd taken as a given would be present on a P2 platformed car of this age. All in all I'm fairly pleased with it and frankly amazed at how much car it's possible to buy for such little money. I even gave it a wash... It looks pretty certain that I'm going to keep this and slowly work my way through the fault list. At this stage it appears as thought I'm in for a couple of calipers (Assuming a cleanup doesn't work), potentially a contactless adaptation for the bothersome/infamous Magneti Marelli throttle body of woe, and I'd imagine lots of other fun stuff. I'm also probably going to need some Vida Dice software almost certainly lots of patience, wish me luck! Broadsword, Tickman, Lankytim and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Fortunately one can delete the service reminder because it managed to annoy every V70 owner on earth. This is unless the "service required" is a polite reminder actually meaning "something is going to break soon!", instead of being the timer driven service reminder that service stations should reset once they've done their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Fumbler said: Fortunately one can delete the service reminder because it managed to annoy every V70 owner on earth. This is unless the "service required" is a polite reminder actually meaning "something is going to break soon!", instead of being the timer driven service reminder that service stations should reset once they've done their stuff. I'm pretty sure it's just the annoying timer one, it could probably do with a decent service to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 Digging a bit further into the ropey Volvo this morning, contrary to what I'm told is the natural order for these things it seems to have originated in Scotland and has made it's way South... Plates seem to corroborate this... One of the previous owners appears to have bee quite keen on catamaran racing, that would perhaps explain the tow bar fittings? Presumably this was back in it's glory years when it was a £25K motor, how fortunes can change.... I'm almost certain the *gentleman I bought the car from did not spend his spare time sailing, in fact going by the rear loading area his main hobby seems to have been transporting cement. Onwards into the engine bay, the timing belt appears to have been changed less than 40k back, so great on mileage but unfortunately 11 years have passed date wise so even going by Volvo's frankly mental 10 year interval it's overdue... Strut towers are one of the few areas that properly goes rust wise on V70's and appears capable of writing them off, thankfully all looks well here... Loads of leaf matter and detritus around though with pretty much all of the scuttle drain areas and panel drains looking somewhat bunged up... But nothing that 10 minutes with Henry can't remedy... Air filter changed whilst I was there, genuine Ovlov parts fitted as I'm lucky enough to be able to use a trade account with them, also because only the best will do obvs. The old one (FRAM) had a fairly decent shadow and had very much seen better days .... Plans are to chip away at the car bit by bit, an hour here and an hour there etc so as not to allow it to become all consuming, that will do for one day! Jim Bell, Lacquer Peel, Heidel_Kakao and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 Work on the V70 continues, today was brake day. I always like to strip and service brakes on any new fleet member as they'll spend a good amount of their time with my beloved family and brethren in them, safety first! Also both front and back drivers side brakes were clearly dragging so some TLC was definitely required. Up she goes.... I was pleased to find matching tyres in pairs front and back when I bought this one, always a good sign IMO. Today my pleasure zone was further tickled when I realised all four of them are pretty much brand new, that surely represents about 75% of what was paid for the car, V70's must be at rock bottom now in terms of value.... All four brakes were completely stripped/cleaned/wire brushed and re greased, unfortunately the two calipers on the on the drivers side were stuck as suspected. I'm likely to have to replace these but thought I'd have a go at reviving them before I spaff £60 a piece on replacements. First step, caliper off and pistons extended slowly but surely using the brake pedal before pulling back the rubber boots, cleaning the pistons thoroughly with emery paper and then soaking in silicone grease... And then wound back in using a detached bench vice and brute force (I'm not proud of myself) The good news is that after 20 miles of use this afternoon the brakes are no longer binding, frankly I recon it's only a matter of time before they stick again, but you never know right? Always best to try the simple/free stuff before getting the wallet out, scdan4, Sudsprint, rainagain and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 The "chipping away" approach works well on Volvos . They do suffer from unsympathetic owners who mistake "well built and durable" for "no need to bother looking after it", and get into quite a state, this one doesn't look to have gone too far down that road though. You should get VIDA/DICE though. It's very easy to set off SRS/ABS etc warnings when working on the car and the ability to reset them there and then makes all the difference. It also comes with parts listings for all models back to 1975, so it's very useful for looking parts up to get the OEM number then Googling it to find a cheaper source. Shirley Knott, Jim Bell and danthecapriman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Thanks chief, chipping away an hour or two at time is the best way I agree, good shout on the Vida Dice. My cheap OBD2 reader speaks to the car luckily, but I completely appreciate it's not the proper kit. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I need to do mine especially as the back drivers handbrake doesn't seem to work at all. My calipers look like they have been sitting at the bottom of the sea so quite tempted to swap them out for new knowing they are good. Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehedgehog31 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Good work sir, I do fancy one of these someday! Bitten with the Swede bug with the Saab. Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, snagglepuss said: I need to do mine especially as the back drivers handbrake doesn't seem to work at all. My calipers look like they have been sitting at the bottom of the sea so quite tempted to swap them out for new knowing they are good. It seems a real Achilles heal on these. Mine is crap but passed the MoT somehow. It only just holds on a gentle drive. I really should strip it and have a proper go, stick some new adjusters on and see if I can get it up to scratch but every one of them seems the same so not sure how good it’s possible to get them. Shirley Knott and The Moog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Weirdly the handbrake on this one works, and what's more works well. My route to work involves a set of traffic lights and a fairly hefty hill start, all of which it manages. Still probably best to strip the hubs down to check the shoes I recon but that's a job that's firmly on the later-base for now at least. Tamworthbay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 8/19/2019 at 7:26 PM, Shirley Knott said: Is that the standard exhaust setup on these? Straight through from the cat to the rear box? That would explain part of why they sound so brilliant (although 3-pots do sound super regardless). My mate had one of these for year until he killed it, it was a brilliant little car! Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Yup, that's how they all are as far as I'm aware. The cat is basically part of the exhaust manifold then its pretty much just a straight pipe back to the silencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Right, another hour's tinkering completed on the Volvo this afternoon First job was PCV testing. Ovlovs operate a set up where-as there's always supposed to be negative air pressure and a vacuum within the engine with waste gasses and pressure being fed back into the combustion chambers. It's is a great idea, the thorn in the side of this system is that the oil separator box and associated pipework often becomes blocked leading to the reverse, ie positive crankcase pressure followed by inevitable blown oil seals and leaking. There are a few ways to test whether the system is working as it should, the most reliable of which is said to be the 'glove test' Like so... Basically, glove is placed over the oil filler and the car is run at idle and at higher revs. If the glove is sucked in then you have negative pressure and vacuum operating properly, this is good. If the glove is blown up like a balloon then there's positive pressure, this is bad and spells time to remove the intake manifold and replace/clean said PCV box and pipework. The good news is that the V70 passed the test with flying colours, in fact the level vacuum was so brutal that the glove came incredibly close to being sucked into the rocker cover and had to be grabbed quickly and held on to in order to avoid disaster. Naturally this was a happy time. Next up was to scan the car for codes, I've got a cheap OBD2 reader and having breifly owned an S80 previously I was fairly confident it would speak to the car, true to form it produced codes P0102 and P0113. basically the MAF and the IAT. These are actually both on the same bit on these and it's incredibly simple to remove, literally two screws... It was taken out and was treated to a decent clean with 'proper' £10 MAF cleaner (Only the best etc etc)... Codes were then cleared and after a further 15 miles of poodling around in the car haven't returned, also the slightly wobbly idle seems much improved. Early days yet but dare I say it another step closer to making a decent car out of this ropey Swede. Tamworthbay, danthecapriman, paulplom and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimad5 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Ropey idle may also be Throttle module. Bit fiddly, but once clean it can help. Good work saving a Volvo. MM5 approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Minimad5 said: MM5 approved. Relief! The throttle module is/was another potential and likely culprit. It's one of the Magneti Marelli ones fitted from 99-01 that became well known for being unbelievably shite and problematic, IIRC they even made a watchdog episode about them such was their level of crapness. There's a few options available ranging from a rebuild by the likes of BBA-reman right the way through to a contactless adaptation (Kits available on Ebay). As the car cost so little I'm very much adopting a 'wait and see' approach TBH. A minor wobble occasionally at idle is fairly standard old car stuff IME and certainly not something I'm going to break my heart over, it seems much improved after MAF cleaning but only time will tell.... paulplom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulplom Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 That air filter looks like your ovlov has been smoking 40 jps a day. It's the same colour as my nannas ceiling was when she used to smoke 40 a day. Shirley Knott and The Moog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 TBF I think the aftermarket ones start out yellow even when they're new, still grim though. Tenmil Socket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I’m enjoying viewing the results of the relaxed-pace tinkering on the Volvo, keep it up! Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
They_all_do_that_sir Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I think I win, this is the one that was in my S60 D5.....Sent from my TA-1012 using Tapatalk The Moog and Shirley Knott 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Knott Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Yup, that's properly grotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 7:30 AM, Shirley Knott said: TBF I think the aftermarket ones start out yellow even when they're new, still grim though. They do, both my 10v and TDi got Mann filters and they were that colour but less grotty when they were new Shirley Knott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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