The Reverend Bluejeans Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Jesus fuck, change the record, eh? we get it... you think it was too expensive...we heard you the first time. Would you pay 3.5k for one? obviously not, going by the 50 times you have said as much in the past six pages, but someone did. They apparently have enough disposable income to pay a sum they are comfortable with for a car they wanted. Beyond that, who gives a toss? fuck. Go and boil your head Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picketlinefeelingfine Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I can't believe it's still going on! They were a shit car new and they are shit cars now. Maybe the diesel ones are good for the engines? I dunno. But they're only really good to workhorse and scrap when they shit themselves. Paying this kind of money for a 405 is retarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 loserone, Lacquer Peel, Partridge and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Faker, Partridge and Uncle Jimmy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Seriously, don't lock it It's interesting to hear the perceptions The heat has died down since yesterday Not that there was much heat etc warren t claim and Partridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 I can't believe it's still going on! They were a shit car new and they are shit cars now. Maybe the diesel ones are good for the engines? I dunno. But they're only really good to workhorse and scrap when they shit themselves. Paying this kind of money for a 405 is retardedThanks for clearing that up! "405s are shit". I didn't know that my car was shit before I read that, but now I know that my car is shit. "spending large-ish sums of money on 405s is retarded" I didn't know if that was retarded or not, but now I know that it's retarded. I was considering having the sills cleaned up on mine and getting the cambelt changed, but now I'm thinking that could make me retarded, so perhaps I should just cut my 405 up into little bits and set fire to it or something? Let me know what you think is best. Cheers,Sam Sudsprint, danthecapriman, carlo and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Spares & Tyres Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 *Important Notice* Please don't feed the trolls bigfella2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthecapriman Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Thanks for clearing that up! "405s are shit". I didn't know that my car was shit before I read that, but now I know that my car is shit. "spending large-ish sums of money on 405s is retarded" I didn't know if that was retarded or not, but now I know that it's retarded. I was considering having the sills cleaned up on mine and getting the cambelt changed, but now I'm thinking that could make me retarded, so perhaps I should just cut my 405 up into little bits and set fire to it or something? Let me know what you think is best. Cheers,SamPosts like the one up the page are exactly what I had a rant about in another thread. Why does some know it all have to come on here (funnily enough a site specifically for old cars!) and slag off someone’s choice of car!?There’s been a bit of it going on here lately and it starts wearing through eventually. If you can’t say anything nice then keep it to yourself. Partridge, alf892, trigger and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panhard65 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I kind of hope the price this made isn't just a one off and prices will rise. The trouble with 80's and 90's cars being treated as bangers is one day there won't be any left. As a lot of us know you can spend silly amounts of money restoring a car so it is nice to know that you are not only saving something but also might get at least half the money you have spent back. D Spares & Tyres, danthecapriman, The Reverend Bluejeans and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Great, back on track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 *Important Notice* Please don't feed the trollsWhere's the fun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 I kind of hope the price this made isn't just a one off and prices will rise. The trouble with 80's and 90's cars being treated as bangers is one day there won't be any left. As a lot of us know you can spend silly amounts of money restoring a car so it is nice to know that you are not only saving something but also might get at least half the money you have spent back.Agreed. When you spend money maintaining and improving 90's stuff, there's always that thought in the back of your mind that if the brown stuff hits the swirly thing and you need your money back, you stand to lose a lot of cash. But to be honest, I'd rather sell one of my buttocks than my 405. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 More to the point my bloody daily driver GTX has had a hissy fit and won't idle. I've changed virtually every pressure valve/sensor/pipe and idle control valve to no avail, it won't have it. Tomorrow will involve a long throttle body swap to try and finally identify the problem. If that fails, well yes obviously 405s are shit, but here's hoping.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I'd rather sell one of my buttocks than my 405. The definition of a classic has been revised, right here. Partridge and danthecapriman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If I see a tidy 405 GTX then at £4-500, I'll snap it up and pass it on eBay for a small fortune. I'm guessing a 1.9 XUD top spec GTX, Executive or a Quasar is the one to have then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 90s stuff will be on the up for a long while. There are probably more Morris Minors around than many common cars from the early 90s now. In lots of ways it’s the perfect AS era, complex and safe enough to be good cars for daily duties but without the ten zillion terabytes of Computer shizzle now found in cars. I would love a good 405 estate but can’t find a decent one for sensible money, seems it’s another boat I have missed. Lacquer Peel and Dirk Diggler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Honest John classics did an incredibly bad go at working out how many 1990s cars there are left, I think a Rover 400 was the sure fire investment implied by that article. I would take the figures with a pinch of salt though - HJ claimed there were ‘only’ 26,000 Ford Focus Mk1s ‘left’. I thought ‘that’s complete bollocks, I can see three of the fuckers from my flat window’. So rechecked and I think they meant ‘Mk1 Focus registered in 1998/99’ which now sounds a bit high as it would be a survival rate of about 25% on a nearly 20 year old car. But I think the ‘figures’ are from the same source as that ‘how many left’ site, so perhaps not that accurate. Short version/TLDR: Billy’s not gonna be dining out on the monthly interest from the pasture of profit just yet. Partridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshome Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 "rare = expensive"? wrong! Tagora owner has spoken Uncle Jimmy, Magnificent Rustbucket and Conrad D. Conelrad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 No Rover 400 has been a surefire investment then or now! Buy them for peanuts, run them, put them up for sale for peanuts and they only get bought to break. If that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Although this is a slight thread tangent I remember a three car race on a dual carriageway back in 1992 between my RS1600i, an Aston Martin DB6 and a 405 Mi16. The DB6 left me for dead and the 405 couldn't even catch it although it did a better job than my Escort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 No Rover 400 has been a surefire investment then or now! Buy them for peanuts, run them, put them up for sale for peanuts and they only get bought to break. If that.They could be the exception (Rover isn’t popular with the general public), but look at things like 205s, a couple of years back you could get one with MoT for £150, now any decent 3 door is way more that that, even 5 door ones are creeping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Oh I don't disagree with 205, because of their looks, sporting heritage and ultimately the youthfulness (is that a word? It is now) of Peugeot brand image. But Rovers even today, all these years on have a staid image that stops investment ideas in their tracks. I know this because i can't even get a roffle filled on them even on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarinaJosh Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Mine was £750 last year with 70k on the clock. That said mine is (or was) a 1.8 petrol model. In PSA circles it seems anything with an XUD9T engine is legendary and fetches a premium. 306, 309, 205 D Turbos etc will usually command a premium over their petrol powered siblings (GTi/Rallye models excluded). Personally I am no fan of the XUD but at the time it was quite revolutionary so I can understand why somebody now might have a hankering for a really clean high spec version of the car they drove as a salesman back in the early 90s. The colour is stunning too. I bid up to about a grand on it but stopped there as that's all it was worth to me. It was worth more to somebody else and that's up to them. I'd rather spend £3500 on an Mi16 (and you can easily get one for that), but at the end of the day it's different strokes for different folks. The doom blue Exec model has quite a few corrosion advisories on the MOT history so bid with caution. It'll be interesting to see how many more 405 turbo diesel saloons come out of the woodwork now. It is rare to see a clean low mileage one. As we know most are miserable spec red estates used as a mobile shed. Lacquer Peel, trigger, danthecapriman and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Mine was £750 last year with 70k on the clock.20770298_10214119588893946_8897368647300694230_n.jpg That said mine is (or was) a 1.8 petrol model. In PSA circles it seems anything with an XUD9T engine is legendary and fetches a premium. 306, 309, 205 D Turbos etc will usually command a premium over their petrol powered siblings (GTi/Rallye models excluded). Personally I am no fan of the XUD but at the time it was quite revolutionary so I can understand why somebody now might have a hankering for a really clean high spec version of the car they drove as a salesman back in the early 90s. The colour is stunning too. I bid up to about a grand on it but stopped there as that's all it was worth to me. It was worth more to somebody else and that's up to them. I'd rather spend £3500 on an Mi16 (and you can easily get one for that), but at the end of the day it's different strokes for different folks. The doom blue Exec model has quite a few corrosion advisories on the MOT history so bid with caution. It'll be interesting to see how many more 405 turbo diesel saloons come out of the woodwork now. It is rare to see a clean low mileage one. As we know most are miserable spec red estates used as a mobile shed.That's fit. How did I miss this and what happened to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Looks fantastic Josh!We need a thread on this car. Pretty please. Your photo shows the classical looks that define the 405: The svelt Pininfarina body sweeping a bend, the flowing body kit showing the vibrance in the colour, period alloy wheels glistening in the sun light, and ....oh look! *squint* and a Mi-16 just passed by at speed. And best of all, it's not going to be ridiculed by the mass crass media like the humble Marina has been I assume it's insured for three times what you won it for now though, eh. So cannot be bought for £750 anymore? Aww, go on P.s I am not a poet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarinaJosh Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 It's covered a bit under my fleet thread, although some people give it a wide berth for the Marina content! £795 would get you one in the same spec in very clean condition. I know as the guy I bought this one off has another he is currently selling with 58k on the clock (he is a 405 addict). My one would have been cheaper but it came with a full leather interior from an Executive model and the Mi16 alloys. Owned for most of it's life by a Peugeot factory employee. High spec diesels have always been sought after but the petrol ones are still an absolute steal and whilst they won't be as economical they are more fun to drive (I have had both) and they don't like to munch through headgaskets as much. It's currently resting in my unit. I managed to crack the sump back in December and as I was planning on an engine swap anyway I took it off the road to do that. It's getting a 2.0 16v engine from a 306 cabriolet with 306 GTi6 inlet and exhaust manifolds so will be giving a similar power output to an Mi16 but for a third of the cost (the donor car was only £150). I absolutely love it. After owning a string of 309s it was a revelation. I knew they had a good reputation back in their day, but the fact is, they're still good to drive today. flat4alfa, trigger and carlo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantingYoof Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 V-plate Mondeo ST24 V6 which has covered just over 4500 miles and does not presently have an MOT.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mondeo-ST24-V6-24V/192192497219 Level of non-use guaranteed to make every major component shart itself when it actually gets driven hard like it was designed to do. £8750 Keeping an eye on this. If it seems to sell then all vaguely performance-orientated Mondeos will triple in price overnight... Faker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffy Bodger Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Not a bad old bus but that silver does absolutely nothing for it whatsoever! Yampy priced 405's seem to be a bit scarce just lately? I'm hopefully attending Pugfest in mine again this year. As it's the 30th anniversary celebration there might be more than the 3 that were there last year? It'll be interesting to see how much people are asking for any that are for sale.I wonder if they'll manage to persuade the owner of the Pikes Peak legend to ship it over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Hopefully the values of Mk2 Mondeo will go up dramatically then I can flog mine on for a fortune... When they start going up in value is when they start disappearing during the dead of night though. Scruffy Bodger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 To be fair, that's listed at that price it hasn't sold at that. I could list my Visa for the same money but it wouldn't sell either. Probably more one for the ebay bargains thread. Faker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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