Mr Bump Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Some pretty good history on the Trafic / Arena over on Vauxpediahttp://vauxpedianet.uk2sitebuilder.com/vauxhall-a97---arena catsinthewelder, andrew e and chaseracer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Love it. That looks like the perfect place to while away an afternoon trundling through the countryside, munching a baguette, while off your face on pastis.EFA Supernaut, somewhatfoolish and alcyonecorporation 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporty-shite Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 http://autoshite.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=171666"image.jpeg Seeing this is giving my inner child a poke, and telling him that a drastically lowered shitty old van would be the ideal summer tool to annoy dubbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I've had two Trafics, but both have been 2.1 Ds so never driven a petrol one. I think the really early ones had either the 1397 (detuned to 48bhp ) or the 1647 from the 18 - the 1721 came along later. Would imagine a late 2.2 petrol would be a decent steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2_craig Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Where does this thing fit into the lineage, is it more to so with the Master than the Trafic? Screenshot taken just now by the way so probably SFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 That's a Messenger, basically a bigger heavier twin-wheel Master I think. Bizarrely when Renault Trucks was sold to Volvo the Messenger was included so we ended up with Masters being built by Renault's car division and the very similar Messenger built by the now-unrelated Renault Trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jams Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 These remind me of my old mukka Craig! Many Many moons ago he had one as a works van! Trouble is he didn’t have a license and his boss wasn’t arsed!! It was a glazing van so had that massive scaffolding on one side I don’t think it had seen an mot of a fair number of years either!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
406V6 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I remember seeing a P reg Vauxhall Arena in Llangollen in 2014. It was a bit of a heap but still in use and memorabel because I'd never noticed one of them before. According to howmanyleft there were 56 swb and 56 lwb registered in 2017 so you've still got a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Messenger / B110 was basically a rebodied Iveco Daily, so completely different chassis and running gear (engine aside). chaseracer and Jim Bell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Some pretty good history on the Trafic / Arena over on Vauxpediahttp://vauxpedianet.uk2sitebuilder.com/vauxhall-a97---arena Rabbithole warning! I never knew the early Trafics could be had with both FWD and RWD. Jim Bell and rusty_vw_man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
They_all_do_that_sir Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I really want a petrol trafic now! Sent from my F3211 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_the_cat Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I never knew the early Trafics could be had with both FWD and RWD. And 4x4: Supernaut, Exiled_Tat_Gatherer, chaseracer and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Boy I knew had one for years, but it was a total shed back in the early 90's. I think that was a 1.4 pez but to be fair he had for years and seemed to drive it everyday with no major bother. Same as the Dingles colour scheme as well, his was a b or c reg.He did get done years later for something to do with MOT's so that could explain why he had it so many years!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-ARENA-CAMPERVAN/202259406978?hash=item2f1799a082:g:7y4AAOSwam1ap7ua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I like 'em. The Motor factor my dad worked for ran a Mk1 Master in the 90's for the 'long distance' runs. We used to go in it sometimes, the gearstick had loads of gaffer tape round it from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Messenger / B110 was basically a rebodied Iveco Daily, so completely different chassis and running gear (engine aside).You have done me a learn, I didn't know that at all. Italian running gear and French bodywork, the best* of both worlds. Mr_Bo11ox and chaseracer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Heres a typical UK example https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/camper-van-renault-trafic-project-spares-or-repairs-petrol-camping-motorhome/323139332730Knew an old boy called Trevor about 10 years ago who had one identical to this but in worse condition and totally wobbed with fibreglass. He used to visit the owner of a yard in bristol where i kept a few cars stored. Me and the yard owners mechanic were mucking round with the cars one day and thought it'd be a great laugh to light an acetylene bomb to put the shits up Trevor as he was a moany old fart. This was achieved by filling a latex glove with acetylene and tying a knot in the end. We chucked it on top of some old newspapers, lit them and legged it up the other end of the yard to a safe distance. Not sure how but the glove ended up rolling pretty close to Trevors van when it went off! The noise the explosion made was insane. Poor old Trev had a brown trouser moment and me and mechanic were crying with laughter when we pointed out to him that the shockwave had not only blown a shite load of rustflakes and wob from underneath the van, but had also blown the rear lamp clusters clean out of the body so they were just dangling by the wiring harness. Luckily no major damage done! Al Bundy, HarmonicCheeseburger, HillmanImp and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms206 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Where does this thing fit into the lineage, is it more to so with the Master than the Trafic? Screenshot taken just now by the way so probably SFS. Screenshot_2018-03-17-14-46-44.pngDid the B110 not come about in the UK to "replace" the 50-Series? Up here at least they only ever seemed to be bought by local authorities, Dumfries & Galloway Council even had Leicester Carriage Builders-bodied welfare buses on B110s, though panel vans weren't uncommon either. IIRC the AA had tilt/slide B110s too. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I've not seen a B110 before. Someone my dad worked with buried an early flat face Trafic on a building plot, it's still vacant, might be worth digging up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew e Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Some pretty good history on the Trafic / Arena over on Vauxpediahttp://vauxpedianet.uk2sitebuilder.com/vauxhall-a97---arenaThere is an ace picture of a high top rwd traffic with a full height tailgate there! Lacquer Peel and Mr Bump 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Somewhere I've got the road test of the Mk1 Trafic by TRUCK (same dudes as CAR), if memory serves they liked them a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 There is an ace picture of a high top rwd traffic with a full height tailgate there! That’s fap worthy material right there. We didn’t get that in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Did they ever sell the RWD Trafic over here? Can't say I've ever seen one. Kinda defeats the point tbh - one of the main advantages of the Trafic, like the Estafette before it, is its very low loading height, and that goes out of the window if the floor has to be raised to clear a diff. Asimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I have both aTrafic - a '93 Petrol 1.6ish and an 89 Master 2.2 petrol. These rust esp the Master which is built on a very interesting lightweight frame. The latter is in for welding at the moment they have very vulnerable leaf spring hangers at the rear. Both are ok to drive but the Master is a bit slow - about 60mph and 20mpg fully loaded. I took cast iron gates and an 8 CI radiators to France last year. These are fun. Not many Masters about now tho. Best buy one in France. Some nice ones still about and lots for sale. This spotted last autumn. It's the short wheelbase. If you go for a petrol they are very cheap because of the mpg issue. Most are diesel in France. For extra usability buy an old minibus. The Trafic was owned by some French monks. strangeangel, Sigmund Fraud, egg and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The orange Madter is the 2.2 diesel short wheelbase which I'd reckon is the best of the bunch. 'Commanding' driving position and a bit less unwieldy. The secondary windows make junctions much safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
They_all_do_that_sir Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Is it possible to get classic insurance on something like this? Would be tempted to have one as a third conveyance.....would be awesome for MTB duties Sent from my F3211 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Yes. They go on a classic commercial policy. Not expensive. I only use them for domestic stuff - much cheaper than hiring a van from time to time as well. They_all_do_that_sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod/b Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hey B011 i used to have to lug washing machines about in a 1.4 pez Trafic, it was FUCKING MISERABLE. 0.2/10 Wud not rekkermend egg and They_all_do_that_sir 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Mine were 500 quid each Old vans that survive tend to have odd histories. The Trafic was used for carpet deliveries in Somerset and did about 1000 miles a year. The Master was owned by a lawnmower repair company who welded it up ( very well) year after year. That did about 250 miles a year for 20 years. Though in a earler life it had been to Spain and back. Coincidentally I am taking back to Spain this Spring...if it makes it. chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Yup the 1.4 must be pretty gutless. Really only designed for local runs in France by the local baker etc. chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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