chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 It's been a non starter for quite a while now ...I originally ran it out of fuel! though it did start after I put a gallon in.Ran fine until a week later when it just wouldn't start one morning. Could be fuel pump under passenger seat or the diesel pump or something else. Just want it diagnosed and repaired by someone who knows what they're doing and won't rip me off... It's a shame it's just sitting there gathering moss ... It's a good car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf892 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Might be best to get it plugged in .......they have 3 fuel pumps. Tank, middle and hp. Plug in prob cost a little but cheaper than changings bits till it goes chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike60 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I have a 99 530d and the pump in the the tank developed an intermittent fault at 240k miles. The pump under the floor gently buzzed when car was ok but you could hear it cavitating when it wasn't being supplied. When the rear seat was lifted I think we could hear the pump when it was running. The Snap On scanner wasn't much help, -diagnosed low fuel pressure. Yea, thanks. Mebby someone who knew what were doing could have got more info though. I think the tank pump is the usual suspect, I got complete 2nd hand sender unit for £45 from Quarry Motors, I think a bare pump was about £60 from ECP. chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianRetro Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Buy a Creator C310+ from Amazon for £45 or so. You'll need a 20 pin adapter - about a fiver. Best £50 any older BMW DIY type can spend. http://bavarianretro.com/blog/?p=733 https://www.amazon.co.uk/MAOZUA-Creator-Diagnostic-Adaptation-Function/dp/B011KSTC6I/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=yo_ii_img chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Best to find a bmw specialist . Normally ex bmw techs who have the knowledge but don’t charge the rates .Have you tried putting a sniff of easy start through the air intake ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiperCub Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Before spending money, I'd check the first pump - the one probably in the tank(?) or right next to it, as I've known these crap out or get moody when they are run out of fuel as they can overheat when sucking air from a dry tank. (they are lubed & cooled by the fuel around them and passing through them in operation). Should be simple enough to disconnect the output and check there's flow from the tank into the main fuel circuit (up to the next pump at least). spike60 and chrisjvm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I used to rent vans to a Polish mechanic. I think he was a BMW specialist. I have searched him up on the database and will PM you the number I had for him a couple of years ago. chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I can recommend a brilliant BMW specialist. Sadly for you, he’s in Aberdeen. chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 It's been a non starter for quite a while now ...I originally ran it out of fuel! though it did start after I put a gallon in.Ran fine until a week later when it just wouldn't start one morning.... Does your 530d have a throttle body with a flap pivoting inside it? Only reason why I ask is because my Bora TDi once failed to start because the flap had stuck in the closed position due to accumulation of crap and lack of lube. Once it was freed, cleaned out and lubricated, everything was grand. Hasn't failed to start since then. chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbenn Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 How much fuel is in it now? I've heard of cars needing up to 3 gallons before they'll start after being run dry. Maybe something to do with the shape of the fuel tanks in question. Do these have a saddle type tank? ETA apologies if this is teaching you to suck eggs. chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Are these a bit like the 75's where the in tank pumps start to give up? I need to keep mine above 1/4 tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Spares & Tyres Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Shropshire is a large county... JD Automotive in Ludlow gets my money. chrisjvm and catsinthewelder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I know an excellent bloke in Cannock - maybe not so far away. chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Chris isn't far from here, a few miles out of CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Might be best to get it plugged in .......they have 3 fuel pumps. Tank, middle and hp. Plug in prob cost a little but cheaper than changings bits till it goesThanks .... Was told that as long as there's plenty of fuel in the 'bra' fuel tank then it doesn't matter if tank pump is U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 How much fuel is in it now? I've heard of cars needing up to 3 gallons before they'll start after being run dry. Maybe something to do with the shape of the fuel tanks in question. Do these have a saddle type tank? ETA apologies if this is teaching you to suck eggs.Thanks for your input .... Yes it has a 'bra' type tank....Which has about 4-5 gallons in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Chris isn't far from here, a few miles out of CA.Cars actually in CA Rich .... I've moved on ... Henley in Arden now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I know an excellent bloke in Cannock - maybe not so far away.Give me a clue please Reverend ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Best to find a bmw specialist . Normally ex bmw techs who have the knowledge but don’t charge the rates .Have you tried putting a sniff of easy start through the air intake ?Yes,though not easystart ... Didn't want it turning into an easistartaholic!Used carb cleaner,gentler apparently but no joy. alf892 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I have a 99 530d and the pump in the the tank developed an intermittent fault at 240k miles. The pump under the floor gently buzzed when car was ok but you could hear it cavitating when it wasn't being supplied. When the rear seat was lifted I think we could hear the pump when it was running. The Snap On scanner wasn't much help, -diagnosed low fuel pressure. Yea, thanks. Mebby someone who knew what were doing could have got more info though. I think the tank pump is the usual suspect, I got complete 2nd hand sender unit for £45 from Quarry Motors, I think a bare pump was about £60 from ECP.Thanks .... Was told that if there's plenty of fuel in the 'bra' tank (which there is) then it didn't matter if pump was U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Give me a clue please Reverend ..... https://www.facebook.com/bmconversionsuk/?hc_ref=ARQeWDufO_ff4CQTEV-1uOdXdQNad-b4gbtDMBfw12Wypp0chUx-8WJhfMwvosRYswU&fref=nf chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I can recommend a brilliant BMW specialist.Sadly for you, he’s in Aberdeen.I bought it from KinkerSaab .... !! Do you think he might put a fiver into the recovery truck pot if I plumped to repatriate it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmatt Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I've got an e39 530d as well that was bought with several issues, including non running. I've cured most of them myself and it now runs really well but I did have a bit of advice from the e39 page on facebook. They're a really helpful bunch and quite a few bmw techs on there too who seem happy to offer advice when needed. https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwe39clubuk/?fref=nf Good luck with it, they're lovely cars when running right. chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I've got an e39 530d as well that was bought with several issues, including non running. I've cured most of them myself and it now runs really well but I did have a bit of advice from the e39 page on facebook. They're a really helpful bunch and quite a few bmw techs on there too who seem happy to offer advice when needed. https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwe39clubuk/?fref=nf Good luck with it, they're lovely cars when running right.Yes it was great when it was running ... But now I've gone back to the 'darkside' A big Cit and I'm loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmatt Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yes it was great when it was running ... But now I've gone back to the 'darkside' A big Cit and I'm loving it. Ooh, you'd best get the Beemer sorted sharpish, withdrawal is obviously having an effect on you. alf892 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 A C6 phwoorrr, pop by for a brew when you're next over so I can have a purve at it. Cars actually in CA Rich .... I've moved on ... Henley in Arden now. The poor fuckers probably commited suicide if you've left it in the Arms. D Spares & Tyres 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike60 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Thanks .... Was told that if there's plenty of fuel in the 'bra' tank (which there is) then it didn't matter if pump was U.S.It did on mine. I can't remember how much it had in but I don't run about with fuel lights on.If it's a fuel supply problem you should be able to pinpoint it by pulling pipes off one at a time at filter, under floor pump and tank pump.Mine did it 60 miles from home and I was pretty sure it was the tank pump after a bit of faffing, went back and fitted a complete sender unit. It took longer to get the bloody seat back in properly! chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjvm Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 It did on mine. I can't remember how much it had in but I don't run about with fuel lights on.If it's a fuel supply problem you should be able to pinpoint it by pulling pipes off one at a time at filter, under floor pump and tank pump.Mine did it 60 miles from home and I was pretty sure it was the tank pump after a bit of faffing, went back and fitted a complete sender unit. It took longer to get the bloody seat back in properly!Fuel visibly moving through clear pipe exiting fuel filter housing... And yes the seat's a biatch to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'd pull the in tank pump/sender and check for metal filings before doing much else I've just had one with the same fault..hp pump gone chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike60 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Fuel visibly moving through clear pipe exiting fuel filter housing... And yes the seat's a biatch to replace.It must have air bubbles in it if you can see it surely? chrisjvm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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