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Best estate shite ever made?


Uncle Jimmy

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Some fantastic stuff here I'd never seen before. I know I've been beaten to it but this has to be the ultimate estate, because it solves that well-known problem of normal CX estates just being so small.

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1989 Citroen CX 25TGI Loadrunner by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

And at the weekend when you don't have so much shit to cart about, a P1800ES would do nicely

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1973 Volvo P1800ES by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

Back in the real world, I do want a Triumph 2500 estate.

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I confess I haven't read this whole thread, but I'm really pleased it's got to six pages in a day because I bloody love estates.

 

I thought they were awkward and ugly until I owned one, which was when I realised that they are just better.

 

I'd had several BX hatchbacks before when my estate came up... I didn't really want it but I bought it because it was available and cheap.  They *are* awkward and ugly from the outside but the second I sat down inside it I realised that estates are just better.  Roomier, airier, better visibility...

 

My best example of its natural superiority is a journey I once made with my then-girlfriend, my Grandma, a suitcase for each of the three of us, Grandma's wheelchair and a spare door that I'd forgotten was in the boot.

 

The correct answer to the thread is, of course The Volvo Estate, but I'd submit that any estate is superior to its saloon/hatchback twin - especially if it's in top level trim, combining doggy smells with superior trim and hi-fi.

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An Aldi 80 estate is roomier than you'd imagine and encompasses a range of qualities shiters often desire, but a ZX or 305 effortlessly demonstrates how 'less is more' and are designed to be loaded day after day. In fact the French seem the only nation capable of building decent estate cars, so although my 100 Avant quattro was utterly ace, a Xantia (despite its wooly Peugeot steering) was far more competent, a 405 more practical still with its lack of 90s bollocks.

 

The Moggie Traveller is for me a far more honest and civilised beast of burden than any 245 or 740, I've never quite got rwd Volvos other than the quality build of a highly simple design. But I do like the Audi-engined early V70 I'm tooling about in at the moment, it's an odd mix which feels homespun and welcoming.

 

The S124 works as well as it does because MB condescended to send a cheque to Citroën, plus their whispering diesels were rather lovely. But in England, as with so many other Mercedes, it's a little like trying to take off in a 747 on a too-small runway.

 

GSs, DSs, 405s, 504s, 406s, 305s, 404s, 304s, ZXs, Xantias, BXs, XMs, 18s, 21s, Lagunas are all superb in managing to combine the traits of a practical van with a comfortable car, but transfer a load from a CX into any of the others then set off back up the road and chances are you'll soon wonder how Citroën managed to make it work so well. A boat which proved too big and heavy for a Range Rover soon behaved itself behind a 2.5TD Safari.

 

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That 164 is so half arsed it could have been done by Farnham.

 

In about 87/88 the Works Lancia Team had a couple of Thema Estates as Chase cars on the RAC, they were bloody quick and sounded like a rally car complete with flames from the exhaust.

Which made me wonder if an 8.32 existed...

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Of course there is , but only one for Snr Agnelli.

Perhaps it replaced his 130

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That 164 was a home made one by someone in USA using a Ford something or other rear if I remember rightly.

 

There are also a couple of home made 8.32 wagons, a Dutch one which has the build documented on line and another one which was for sale in Germany around 10 years ago. I thought of buying that one but it didn't have a TuV so swerved it!

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It should not be forgotten that fins are essential on estates.

 

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On ALL cars, surely?????

 

 

One day I will own a 1959 Cadillac...

 

... but definitely not this one! I hope its mother loves it!

 

1959 Cadillac Broadmoor Skyview Station Wagon

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Some more details about it here:

https://blog.caranddriver.com/the-1959-cadillac-broadmoor-skyview-laughs-at-your-three-row-crossover/

WANT!

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Lots of good suggestions.

This is mine and does all I ask of it. Could qualify as shite as often overlooked and called dull but is roomy, comfy, well equipped, frugal (lean burn) and totally reliable.post-20331-0-06157400-1515745734_thumb.jpg

 

From Classic shite, I like Saab 96v4 estates, a friends mum had one when I was a kid.

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Here is one for sale with 400,000km.

Like the stretched mk2 Granada look of it.

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But the real winner is the Skoda Favorit/Felicia.

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The loadspace is bigger than you could ever imagine. The seats are completely removable in under a minute but even with them just folded they give a solid bulkhead behind the front seats.

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The rubber mat is from a Rover 75, a car much bigger on the outside. You can get a 6' X 3' board in easily but not only is the floorspace good it's really deep too.

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Fucking yes - they were shit when new, are shit now, about as desirable as herpes but extremely useful and dependable. Love them.

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I nearly had an Avenger estate once (only nearly though) and was amazed how big it was inside. Considering the Avenger was aimed at the Escort market, the estate was easily a match for the Cortina.

I delivered a last-of-production Avenger Estate when they looked like a raddled old tart and were utterly despised by the motoring press. It drove really well and was a practical roomy car; that grill was horrible. I'd have one.

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I delivered a last-of-production Avenger Estate when they looked like a raddled old tart and were utterly despised by the motoring press. It drove really well and was a practical roomy car; that grill was horrible. I'd have one.

My recently departed old Pa was part of the design team for the Avenger in late 60's, working for Rootes Group IIRC. He was long gone from the car industry by the raddled old tart phase though.

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