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[Fumbler]

8 minutes ago, Lankytim said:

With fresh oil in complete with a new filter fitted I took it for a spin. The rattle is actually worse than before and it misfired a couple of times while pulling out onto a roundabout. The misfire seemed to have improved, perhaps a set of plugs will sort it but the rattle is perplexing. Google tells me these engines often rattle due to piston slap, valve clearances are also mentioned. Either way it’s nothing to worry about apparently. 

The rattle on acceleration our 2009 1.4 Jazz was the VTEC cam phaser in the cylinder head which was wobbling about. Unfortunately it won't just go away and often involves open heart surgery on the engine, from what we read.

 

[Lankytim]

4 minutes ago, Fumbler said:

The rattle on acceleration our 2009 1.4 Jazz was the VTEC cam phaser in the cylinder head which was wobbling about. Unfortunately it won't just go away and often involves open heart surgery on the engine, from what we read.

 

2009 would be the newer model I think. As far as I know these have a single cam driven by a chain and don’t have VTEC or anything like that. (Goes off to Google to see)

[Fumbler]

3 minutes ago, Lankytim said:

2009 would be the newer model I think. As far as I know these have a single cam driven by a chain and don’t have VTEC or anything like that. (Goes off to Google to see)

True, I think late 2008 was the changeover. If true then ignore what I said!

[Crackers]

On 05/03/2022 at 13:19, Six-cylinder said:

Yes probably.

How about some thing to do with Pheasant shooting as we have that happening around us?

Looks like a retrieval training dummy for gundogs to me. 

[Six-cylinder]

10 minutes ago, Crackers said:

Looks like a retrieval training dummy for gundogs to me. 

And punishment for the dog if they bite through is a mouth full of sand!

[High Jetter]

I think @Crackers has cracked it!

[Six-cylinder]

Milton Keynes Classic Car Club Breakfast went well.

A bit slow going on the way as a Mercedes S class was towing a van. Very very slow to start off but did get up to 40 mph at one point.

A good variety of over 30 cars attended, my want to take home today was the white Jag XJ6. 

On the way home I thought it was only birds that like nesting in hedges!

[cort1977]

Seem to have spent an inordinate amount of time this weekend changing out shocks and springs on the Saab this weekend. The top mounts for the shock absorbers are in the wheel arch on these so both sides were rusty and had to be cut off. The rear beam is also rusty as hell but decided that's a job for another day.  I did change the fuel filter while I was under there at least.

[louiepj]

We’ve had use of Dad’s 2007 Honda Jazz 1.4 CVT for the last month or so.  It’s recently been making an odd rattling noise on acceleration which disappears when the engine is hot, it’s also prone to misfiring when flooring it. It was due an oil service so while the oil was draining I removed the plugs for a quick look.
These things have 8 spark plugs, the rearmost ones being a bit awkward to get to but overall the job was quite enjoyable. Some of the plugs had furred up with one being almost white with fur, very odd and probably the source of the running issues. I didn’t have a new set of plugs to go in so I gapped them and cleaned them up with a brass wire brush and refitted. 
With fresh oil in complete with a new filter fitted I took it for a spin. The rattle is actually worse than before and it misfired a couple of times while pulling out onto a roundabout. The misfire seemed to have improved, perhaps a set of plugs will sort it but the rattle is perplexing. Google tells me these engines often rattle due to piston slap, valve clearances are also mentioned. Either way it’s nothing to worry about apparently. 

That vert de gris on the plug screw cap would have me inspecting the coils as well.


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[Lankytim]

14 minutes ago, louiepj said:

That vert de gris on the plug screw cap would have me inspecting the coils as well.


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The coils have that stuff on them too! I’m not sure if they can be easily cleaned though 

[richardmorris]

32 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

Milton Keynes Classic Car Club Breakfast went well.

A bit slow going on the way as a Mercedes S class was towing a van. Very very slow to start off but did get up to 40 mph at one point.

A good variety of over 30 cars attended, my want to take home today was the white Jag XJ6. 

On the way home I thought it was only birds that like nesting in hedges!

What was the other w124 ?

[omegod]

21 minutes ago, Lankytim said:

The coils have that stuff on them too! I’m not sure if they can be easily cleaned though 

Personally i'd give them a blast with brake cleaner and get as much off as possible. I had to clean the throttle body on a jazz I sold as it had stuck fast with carbon, might be worth giving yours a clean out if the coil clean doesn't solve it 

[Six-cylinder]

21 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

What was the other w124 ?

Another E320 Coupe, 1995.

There are 4 E320 Coupes around Milton Keynes. In April they are going to to Brooklands to a Merc gathering where they hope there are going to be 10 W124 Coupes. Unfortunately it clashes with the Citroen X rally.

 

[richardmorris]

3 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

Another E320 Coupe, 1995.

There are 4 E320 Coupes around Milton Keynes. In April they are going to to Brooklands to a Merc gathering where they hope there are going to be 10 W124 Coupes. Unfortunately it clashes with the Citroen X rally.

There were three other coupes to my knowledge locally here. Another blue one but a 220, a blue black 220 with cream leather interior and a silver 320 with grey leather.  One looked the best, I spoke to one in waitrose carpark a few years ago - he beeped me as I was walking away from mine and he parked up. I said it was a daily car and had an x1/9 and 2cv and he said, oh both those are yours ? He’d had a good look at all of them in the past!

[SiC]

Bought an air conditioning bomb can from the local cheap shop to try attacking the dog smell in the A4 again. Shop was closing down (always is) so reduced to £1.10.

This was in "Cologne" flavour - think Old Spice. Basically it made my car smell like a Rover 75.

[hairnet]

3 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

Another E320 Coupe, 1995.

There are 4 E320 Coupes around Milton Keynes. In April they are going to to Brooklands to a Merc gathering where they hope there are going to be 10 W124 Coupes. Unfortunately it clashes with the Citroen X rally.

 

 

so much nerd tart

[hairnet]

4 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

 

 

 

nice riviera - what was the convertible

[Six-cylinder]

2 minutes ago, hairnet said:

nice riviera - what was the convertible

Bond Equipe 2 LTR 

I had one some years ago, this was mine.

[RoverFolkUs]

12 hours ago, grogee said:

sticky flaps

Oo err matron 🤭

[/gets coat]

[wuvvum]

Well that was one of the least productive weekends I've had in a long time.  I spent most of it failing to fix the Rover's front suspension.  After Saturday's rounding off of the pinch bolt and ball joint retaining bolt and subsequent fruitless search for a means to remove them, today I decided I was going to cut the bottom bit of the spring off to get it clear of the wheel.

I didn't have any cutting discs for the grinder and I didn't really want to attempt to drive the car back to the house anyway, so I broke out the hacksaw.  Initially it cut through the spring quite well, but as I got towards the middle progress slowed almost to a stop.  After an hour and a half of on-and-off sawing I'd chewed through the two hacksaw blades I had, so I headed off to Roys to buy some more, and I picked up some cutting discs while I was there.  Back at the car park I changed the blade on the saw and started hacking away again - after another hour or so I was almost all the way through so I thought I'd tap the end of the spring with a hammer to see if I could get the slot I'd cut to open up a bit.  Not only did it not make any improvement to the slot, it also knocked the last half coil of spring out of the bottom seat, so it now sat a good inch and a half lower, the work I'd spent half the day doing to cut the last bit of spring off was rendered completely useless, and because the end of the spring now sat even lower than before I couldn't get the wheel back on the car at all.

Out of desperation I dug the grinder out of the boot of the Innocenti where it's spent the winter, and plugged it in to the inverter under the bonnet of the Maxus.  To my surprise the inverter actually managed to run it, so with the Maxus parked up behind the Rover with an extension lead running from under the bonnet and one of the shiny new cutting discs fitted to the grinder, it took less than two minutes to slice through the spring at a point that would allow me to refit the wheel without fouling.  This was a moment of mixed emotions - I was pleased that the inverter will run the grinder as that will mean that if a car needs grinder action I'm no longer forced to bring it onto the drive, but I was also thoroughly pissed off that my hours of sawing were all pointless - I could have spent all that time doing something more productive, like watching porn on the internet. 

I still haven't been able to get either bolt undone either.  A mate lent me a 3' section of scaffold pole, which shoved on the end of the 2' breaker bar gave me all the leverage I could possibly want - enough leverage in fact to make the bolt remover ping off the pinch bolt (I'm actually impressed that it stayed on as long as it did, it's cut some impressive grooves into the bolt head).  That was my last option for getting the pinch bolt undone, so I'm now going to have to pay £££ to the garage to do it.  Unless I take off the entire strut, wishbone and hub assembly and replace them all, but that would be a bit silly.

I did get a pair of upgraded speakers fitted to the Maxus though, which has made the radio at least listenable if not exactly Bang & Olufsen quality, so that's one good thing.

[cort16]

8 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Well that was one of the least productive weekends I've had in a long time.  I spent most of it failing to fix the Rover's front suspension.  After Saturday's rounding off of the pinch bolt and ball joint retaining bolt and subsequent fruitless search for a means to remove them, today I decided I was going to cut the bottom bit of the spring off to get it clear of the wheel.

I didn't have any cutting discs for the grinder and I didn't really want to attempt to drive the car back to the house anyway, so I broke out the hacksaw.  Initially it cut through the spring quite well, but as I got towards the middle progress slowed almost to a stop.  After an hour and a half of on-and-off sawing I'd chewed through the two hacksaw blades I had, so I headed off to Roys to buy some more, and I picked up some cutting discs while I was there.  Back at the car park I changed the blade on the saw and started hacking away again - after another hour or so I was almost all the way through so I thought I'd tap the end of the spring with a hammer to see if I could get the slot I'd cut to open up a bit.  Not only did it not make any improvement to the slot, it also knocked the last half coil of spring out of the bottom seat, so it now sat a good inch and a half lower, the work I'd spent half the day doing to cut the last bit of spring off was rendered completely useless, and because the end of the spring now sat even lower than before I couldn't get the wheel back on the car at all.

Out of desperation I dug the grinder out of the boot of the Innocenti where it's spent the winter, and plugged it in to the inverter under the bonnet of the Maxus.  To my surprise the inverter actually managed to run it, so with the Maxus parked up behind the Rover with an extension lead running from under the bonnet and one of the shiny new cutting discs fitted to the grinder, it took less than two minutes to slice through the spring at a point that would allow me to refit the wheel without fouling.  This was a moment of mixed emotions - I was pleased that the inverter will run the grinder as that will mean that if a car needs grinder action I'm no longer forced to bring it into the drive, but I was also thoroughly pissed off that my hours of sawing were all pointless - I could have spent all that time doing something more productive, like watching porn on the internet. 

I still haven't been able to get either bolt undone either.  A mate lent me a 3' section of scaffold pole, which shoved on the end of the 2' breaker bar gave me all the leverage I could possibly want - enough leverage in fact to make the bolt remover ping off the pinch bolt (I'm actually impressed that it stayed on as long as it did, it's cut some impressive grooves into the bolt head).  That was my last option for getting the pinch bolt undone, so I'm now going to have to pay £££ to the garage to do it.  Unless I take off the entire strut, wishbone and hub assembly and replace them all, but that would be a bit silly.

I did get a pair of upgraded speakers fitted to the Maxus though, which has made the radio at least listenable if not exactly Bang & Olufsen quality, so that's one good thing.

Cutting anything with a hacksaw is painful I hate to think what it was like trying to cut through sprung steel.

[anonymous user]

10 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

Bond Equipe 2 LTR 

I had one some years ago, this was mine.

That is the spit of the one I had years ago. Did they all have a misaligned back bumper?

[Six-cylinder]

34 minutes ago, anonymous user said:

That is the spit of the one I had years ago. Did they all have a misaligned back bumper?

It seems not!

[AnnoyingPentium]

45 minutes ago, cort16 said:

Cutting anything with a hacksaw is painful I hate to think what it was like trying to cut through sprung steel.

When I was in second year woodwork I got into bother because I broke three hacksaw blades in the space of 15 minutes on a bit of wood. So christ knows what it was like going through steel.

[richardmorris]

I've no idea what this is, it's just come off a transporter full or nigel mansell F1 cars.

[Liggle]

7 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

I've no idea what this is, it's just come off a transporter full or nigel mansell F1 cars.

Its a Modulo 'reverse trike' 

Based on a BMW bike, can't remember if they are built by BMW or just based on a BMW

[grogee]

9 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Well that was one of the least productive weekends I've had in a long time.  I spent most of it failing to fix the Rover's front suspension.  After Saturday's rounding off of the pinch bolt and ball joint retaining bolt and subsequent fruitless search for a means to remove them, today I decided I was going to cut the bottom bit of the spring off to get it clear of the wheel.

I didn't have any cutting discs for the grinder and I didn't really want to attempt to drive the car back to the house anyway, so I broke out the hacksaw.  Initially it cut through the spring quite well, but as I got towards the middle progress slowed almost to a stop.  After an hour and a half of on-and-off sawing I'd chewed through the two hacksaw blades I had, so I headed off to Roys to buy some more, and I picked up some cutting discs while I was there.  Back at the car park I changed the blade on the saw and started hacking away again - after another hour or so I was almost all the way through so I thought I'd tap the end of the spring with a hammer to see if I could get the slot I'd cut to open up a bit.  Not only did it not make any improvement to the slot, it also knocked the last half coil of spring out of the bottom seat, so it now sat a good inch and a half lower, the work I'd spent half the day doing to cut the last bit of spring off was rendered completely useless, and because the end of the spring now sat even lower than before I couldn't get the wheel back on the car at all.

Out of desperation I dug the grinder out of the boot of the Innocenti where it's spent the winter, and plugged it in to the inverter under the bonnet of the Maxus.  To my surprise the inverter actually managed to run it, so with the Maxus parked up behind the Rover with an extension lead running from under the bonnet and one of the shiny new cutting discs fitted to the grinder, it took less than two minutes to slice through the spring at a point that would allow me to refit the wheel without fouling.  This was a moment of mixed emotions - I was pleased that the inverter will run the grinder as that will mean that if a car needs grinder action I'm no longer forced to bring it into the drive, but I was also thoroughly pissed off that my hours of sawing were all pointless - I could have spent all that time doing something more productive, like watching porn on the internet. 

I still haven't been able to get either bolt undone either.  A mate lent me a 3' section of scaffold pole, which shoved on the end of the 2' breaker bar gave me all the leverage I could possibly want - enough leverage in fact to make the bolt remover ping off the pinch bolt (I'm actually impressed that it stayed on as long as it did, it's cut some impressive grooves into the bolt head).  That was my last option for getting the pinch bolt undone, so I'm now going to have to pay £££ to the garage to do it.  Unless I take off the entire strut, wishbone and hub assembly and replace them all, but that would be a bit silly.

I did get a pair of upgraded speakers fitted to the Maxus though, which has made the radio at least listenable if not exactly Bang & Olufsen quality, so that's one good thing.

I feel your pain. Often my spannering seems to go down a pointless rabbit hole like this. Maybe treat it as a (painful) learning experience. 

Re: strut bottom bolt - if the wishbone and strut were off the car, would that give better access to the stuck pinch bolt? Then maybe attack with grinder once on a bench?

Or, last resort - cut through the wishbone and replace? Sounds drastic but on my heaps the cost of a wishbone inc balljoint is buttons eg £30/pair. 

Never come across a stuck pinch bolt like that (don't want to tempt fate either) as they're not really 'doing' much mechanically and don't need to be mega tight. 

[Mr Pastry]

10 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Well that was one of the least productive weekends I've had in a long time.  I spent most of it failing to fix the Rover's front suspension.  After Saturday's rounding off of the pinch bolt and ball joint retaining bolt and subsequent fruitless search for a means to remove them, today I decided I was going to cut the bottom bit of the spring off to get it clear of the wheel.

I didn't have any cutting discs for the grinder and I didn't really want to attempt to drive the car back to the house anyway, so I broke out the hacksaw.  Initially it cut through the spring quite well, but as I got towards the middle progress slowed almost to a stop.  After an hour and a half of on-and-off sawing I'd chewed through the two hacksaw blades I had, so I headed off to Roys to buy some more, and I picked up some cutting discs while I was there.  Back at the car park I changed the blade on the saw and started hacking away again - after another hour or so I was almost all the way through so I thought I'd tap the end of the spring with a hammer to see if I could get the slot I'd cut to open up a bit.  Not only did it not make any improvement to the slot, it also knocked the last half coil of spring out of the bottom seat, so it now sat a good inch and a half lower, the work I'd spent half the day doing to cut the last bit of spring off was rendered completely useless, and because the end of the spring now sat even lower than before I couldn't get the wheel back on the car at all.

Out of desperation I dug the grinder out of the boot of the Innocenti where it's spent the winter, and plugged it in to the inverter under the bonnet of the Maxus.  To my surprise the inverter actually managed to run it, so with the Maxus parked up behind the Rover with an extension lead running from under the bonnet and one of the shiny new cutting discs fitted to the grinder, it took less than two minutes to slice through the spring at a point that would allow me to refit the wheel without fouling.  This was a moment of mixed emotions - I was pleased that the inverter will run the grinder as that will mean that if a car needs grinder action I'm no longer forced to bring it into the drive, but I was also thoroughly pissed off that my hours of sawing were all pointless - I could have spent all that time doing something more productive, like watching porn on the internet. 

I still haven't been able to get either bolt undone either.  A mate lent me a 3' section of scaffold pole, which shoved on the end of the 2' breaker bar gave me all the leverage I could possibly want - enough leverage in fact to make the bolt remover ping off the pinch bolt (I'm actually impressed that it stayed on as long as it did, it's cut some impressive grooves into the bolt head).  That was my last option for getting the pinch bolt undone, so I'm now going to have to pay £££ to the garage to do it.  Unless I take off the entire strut, wishbone and hub assembly and replace them all, but that would be a bit silly.

I did get a pair of upgraded speakers fitted to the Maxus though, which has made the radio at least listenable if not exactly Bang & Olufsen quality, so that's one good thing.

Just unbolt the wishbone/hub/strut etc. and remove as one assembly, no need to struggle with the pinch bolt.  Then you can get the spring compressors on and change the spring.      

[junkyarddog]

Black betty the Sierra Hearse passed her roadworthyness test today.

Two year test once they reach 30 years old here in Ireland. 

Advisory on the tyres being more than 6 years old. 

Emissions were very low,quite chuffed with that as the engine and box are destined to be fitted to my mk2 Capri(eventually)

Tester was less than impressed with her former occupation 🤣

[grogee]

Astra estate?