wuvvum Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Saabnut said: I try very hard not to comment on these things, but just occasionally it is even harder not to. I have my own forum so see things from both sides. There are always people who are not happy with the mods. There are always questionable decisions when viewed from one side, but only the mods know what is going on in the background. One major car forum no longer exists because a post was not moderated, the site had to close, either that or the mods faced court. There was a worry during Modgate Episode 1 that the same might happen here when ole Breadbin started throwing around threats of legal action. Whether or not that's had an influence on the subsequent moderating style I can't say - I tried not to get involved and therefore probably missed a lot of the background - but I doubt it will have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Yoss said: I looked at new electronic ignition at the time, including the 123 which looks lovely if nothing else, but there are so many different types now I got flummoxed and forgot all about it. In my day Lumenition was all there was so the choice wasn't hard. Just wondered if you'd had any experience of it? Is it worth the extra over some of the cheap ones? Essentially most of them are the same thing. They have a magnet that goes on the rotor arm and a hall effect sensor in a pickup. When the magnet passes the sensor, it senses this and causes a transistor to switch. As there is no moving parts and fully solid state, in theory there should not be any contacts to wear out. The better ones also measure the current from the coil. This ensures to fully charge the coil without overheating from saturation. Effectively an auto adaptive dwell. Quite easy thing to do in solid state electronics with a microcontroller. The issue is that some of these, like everything nowadays, are built to a price. Lumenition is one of the few that is built well. Unfortunately they are way over priced even for that. I have one in the Dolomite as the distributor in that is bespoke to the Sprint only and came with the car. I've not actually driven the car to know, but I hear it makes a big difference. With the 123, it's different proposition to the others. Like the above it has a magnetic pickup. But the key thing is that it's a brand new, machined distributor designed from the ground up for electronic use. So the timing is fully controlled electronically and there is a air pressure sensor to provide vacuum advanced. They also use Bosch/Beru distributor caps that are still of high quality and readily available. The issue with many distributors out there is that they are knackered. So putting something like a Powerspark or Lumenition in won't resolve the fact the weights are slopping all over the place and the rotor is wobbling around, giving inaccurate timing. You can get a distributor rebuilt - I enquired at the Distributor Doctor (deemed to be one of the best in the UK). It was coming in at £300 iirc. I was tempted but for that money I could get a brand new 123 ignition with its superior rotor+cap and the fact it won't wear anywhere near as quickly as a rebuilt traditional. As it's fully solid state, a 123 has the additional advantage of being tunable and having the advance curves altered easily without having to strip the dizzy. As the rotor is directly connected to the engine shaft, there isn't much load on it, thus reducing the potential for wear and loosing accuracy. red5, chadders, stripped fred and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Weren't those threats at the end of a long argument and made in exasperation at ridiculousness / pettiness by some iirc. If only a glitch hadn't removed it. Shame it came to that. Should have had a light touch well before it. Forum lost a decent car type and a little bit of its gentleness. I has the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times, like most here I suspect, there is more in common with others than not. Might even be cars. I apologise if I seem to be 'stirring' as mentioned earlier, not sure if it's a veiled dig or not, nor do I really care (about the dig). It's not. I am bothered by it all, the hypocrisy, favouritism, downright lies and individual hidden agendas. Sheefag, GeorgeB, alf892 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, MarvinsMom said: i have wondered about going pointless on both the metro and the mini 1000, BUT as you say, there are that many ones out there and i dunno which are any good, and which are crap. and as both are happy enough ,so far (touch wood) on points i have left them well enough alone. as a cautionary tail, we did once change the points in the Metro not long after i bought it. i got a new set from Unipart in York, we put them in the car, gaped them and and that, only for the shiney new points to weld themselves shut after only using the car a coupleof times. so i got kerry to put the original set back in, and well i don't think we have had any problems with the car since. well i say that, remembering that the metro has not been touched in nearly 18 months since the bat flu started! The biggest problem with aftermarket points is the really crap condensers. Only new ones I've found decent are the HQ ones from Moss. I believe they are the Distributor Doctor ones. The points themselves are actually pretty decent quality, but it's the condenser that stops condensing which causes the points to burn out. Having stripped down a Powerspark distributor pickup, Sparkrite points assisted unit, CSI-ignition replacement distributor and the 123 ignition replacement distributor. The only one that I would trust is the 123. It's head and shoulders the best mechanical and electrical design out of all of them. MarvinsMom, Yoss and stonedagain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 One of my friends friends has had two aftermarket kits fail - both times in "new" crossflow type 45Ds. Penny-wise Pound-foolish for ignition, but happy to spend on steel blocks etc etc 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, SiC said: Essentially most of them are the same thing. They have a magnet that goes on the rotor arm and a hall effect sensor in a pickup. When the magnet passes the sensor, it senses this and causes a transistor to switch. As there is no moving parts and fully solid state, in theory there should not be any contacts to wear out. The better ones also measure the current from the coil. This ensures to fully charge the coil without overheating from saturation. Effectively an auto adaptive dwell. Quite easy thing to do in solid state electronics with a microcontroller. The issue is that some of these, like everything nowadays, are built to a price. Lumenition is one of the few that is built well. Unfortunately they are way over priced even for that. I have one in the Dolomite as the distributor in that is bespoke to the Sprint only and came with the car. I've not actually driven the car to know, but I hear it makes a big difference. With the 123, it's different proposition to the others. Like the above it has a magnetic pickup. But the key thing is that it's a brand new, machined distributor designed from the ground up for electronic use. So the timing is fully controlled electronically and there is a air pressure sensor to provide vacuum advanced. They also use Bosch/Beru distributor caps that are still of high quality and readily available. The issue with many distributors out there is that they are knackered. So putting something like a Powerspark or Lumenition in won't resolve the fact the weights are slopping all over the place and the rotor is wobbling around, giving inaccurate timing. You can get a distributor rebuilt - I enquired at the Distributor Doctor (deemed to be one of the best in the UK). It was coming in at £300 iirc. I was tempted but for that money I could get a brand new 123 ignition with its superior rotor+cap and the fact it won't wear anywhere near as quickly as a rebuilt traditional. As it's fully solid state, a 123 has the additional advantage of being tunable and having the advance curves altered easily without having to strip the dizzy. As the rotor is directly connected to the engine shaft, there isn't much load on it, thus reducing the potential for wear and loosing accuracy. I've had a 123 on the Dyane since the engine rebuild in 2003. Works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 hours ago, SiC said: Oof! What blue is that? Grille looks very early, and vinyl roof? Engine bay looks very smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 ^ whatever’s next to it looks a similar shade (looks mgbish so pageant blue on the b (?)and isn’t the jury out on the origins of the 1100’s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Pageant is a possibility. Grille looks Mk1, but on a F plate? Indicators/sidelamps Mk2? Going from (distant) memory here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cord Fourteener Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 hours ago, wuvvum said: Can somebody please explain to me how a numberplate can be four-dimensional? Because it evolves though time? chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cord Fourteener Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Got the obligatory. Apparently the originator got a Cease and Desist letter from the Chinese Moose. That's not on. However, they are still being printed as bootlegs. eddyramrod, mk2_craig and juular 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 hours ago, High Jetter said: Grille looks Mk1, but on a F plate? Indicators/sidelamps Mk2? Going from (distant) memory here. 1967/F was the change from major to minor to the mk2, so there may have been a few mk1s that stuck around past the short E-plate (1 Jan-31 Jul 67), strange though that is given the rate the ADO16 was selling. Maybe somebody didn't care about the facelift and got a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 14 hours ago, High Jetter said: Oof! What blue is that? Grille looks very early, and vinyl roof? Engine bay looks very smart. Originally the car was Green but was repainted when the second owner restored it. First owner, in Scotland, had it from 1968 to 2012 and then wrote it off (as a Cat C). Given they weren't worth a lot in 2012 it likely was a minor giffer dent. There is a slight crease in one of the door panels and a receipt for a dent puller, so probably was that. Second owner then welded the sills and a few other bits. In the process he repainted it from Connaught Green to the current Blue. What blue is it? I really don't know and want to know! My suspicion is that it's tractor enamel paint - maybe Ford blue? There is his emails address in the paperwork and I keep thinking I should email him to find out. A few bits need touching up and it would be useful to know what it is. The vinyl roof I don't think is original. As it's a 1968 plate and a MK1, it must have been a very late registered one of the last. Or it had been sitting around for a while. The original BMC Passport to Service book ties up with the age. I know the colour isn't to everyone's taste, nor is it original but I really like it. It's a bright and vivid colour when polished up and gets parsersby attention. A impulse lockdown project purchase last year that is a very jolly little car. More about it on my thread! stripped fred, Coprolalia, stonedagain and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 My grandad was a serial ADO16 perv in the 60s/70s - always Austins, the high points being a couple of 1300GTs - trading them every two years until he tried a (single) VP1500 in 1975. He was so impressed with that, he swapped it for a Simca 1100! This was so utterly dire, it was chopped in after barely a year for the first of two Honda Accords. Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1/3/68 the date of sale on the car according to the Passport to Service. Sold to a Mr McArthur in Crossgate, Fife by William Robb of The Kirkcaldy Garage in Kirkcaldy. Pre delivery stamp is 28/2/68 with a mileage of 47. So does seem like it was new at the time. Must have been one of the very very last MK1. Actually has more history than any other of my classics. Wish I had more on the MGBGT as I've got nothing pre the last seller and it's a low owner car too. Unfortunately the second owner threw out/lost that history. stripped fred, Angrydicky and dome 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Forst time this has seen the light of day since September. stripped fred, SRi05, loserone and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave j Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, SiC said: 1/3/68 the date of sale on the car according to the Passport to Service. Sold to a Mr McArthur in Crossgate, Fife by William Robb of The Kirkcaldy Garage in Kirkcaldy. Pre delivery stamp is 28/2/68 with a mileage of 47. So does seem like it was new at the time. Must have been one of the very very last MK1. Actually has more history than any other of my classics. Wish I had more on the MGBGT as I've got nothing pre the last seller and it's a low owner car too. Unfortunately the second owner threw out/lost that history. That sounded like the start of one of those long winded Ebay adverts! 🤣 HMC, timolloyd and SiC 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cord Fourteener Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I have to put this: Onto this: The problem is that because I'm an idiot I ordered the wrong tow bar, I got the estate tow bar rather than the hatchback one. Which means it's not going to fit, so I have a drill and an angle grinder at the ready. stonedagain and Craig the Princess 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, dave j said: That sounded like the start of one of those long winded Ebay adverts! 🤣 Might be worth doing that! Shame it's a Cat C as it will put people off a good car but then it's also part of the cars story and history. dave j 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cord Fourteener Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 46 minutes ago, Tim_E said: I have to put this: Onto this: The problem is that because I'm an idiot I ordered the wrong tow bar, I got the estate tow bar rather than the hatchback one. Which means it's not going to fit, so I have a drill and an angle grinder at the ready. Ok I'm going to try and sell this one and get the correct tow bar... Tickman and Floatylight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cord Fourteener Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 And, as a change of plan, this important* job got done. stripped fred, DVee8, Cavcraft and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripped fred Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tim_E said: Ok I'm going to try and sell this one and get the correct tow bar... I would do that, better to be safe than sorry... Cord Fourteener 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Finally managed to go to where my Rover is stored yesterday, passing by while doing another (essential) errand. Haven't been to it in 4 weeks due to lockdown and all that. Battery? Flat as a witch's tit. No problem, connect jumper pack... Cue 5 minutes of the alarm/immobiliser going mental, and not responding to the fob. A frantic Google on the phone revealed the procedure to cure this, involving locking/unlocking the door using the key, pressing the fob buttons a specific number of times, and sacrificing a live chicken to the gods of Lucas electronics. With the crisis averted, managed to run it for 30 minutes or so to get a bit of juice into it, and I've added a solar trickle charger to help it retain charge. It'll still need a mains charge at some point though. Six-cylinder, Cavcraft, dome and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Got the dating certificate back today for the little Gilera. It's come back as March 2001 because Gilera don't hold records for bikes over ten years old and after the people who issued the certificate used their extensive database. Do any vehicles that can't be dated default to March 2001 as that's when the new system of numbers started at DVLA? It's a 1973 bike, so although it'd be nice to see it registered here in the UK, I'm guessing it'll not get 'historic' status so no free MOT or tax? Not that the latter will matter too much, it's only a 49cc Cord Fourteener and Dick Longbridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Cavcraft said: Got the dating certificate back today for the little Gilera. It's come back as March 2001 because Gilera don't hold records for bikes over ten years old and after the people who issued the certificate used their extensive database. Do any vehicles that can't be dated default to March 2001 as that's when the new system of numbers started at DVLA? It's a 1973 bike, so although it'd be nice to see it registered here in the UK, I'm guessing it'll not get 'historic' status so no free MOT or tax? Not that the latter will matter too much, it's only a 49cc Any photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Split_Pin said: Forst time this has seen the light of day since September. Such a good looking car! oldcars and Split_Pin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Cavcraft said: Got the dating certificate back today for the little Gilera. It's come back as March 2001 because Gilera don't hold records for bikes over ten years old and after the people who issued the certificate used their extensive database. Do any vehicles that can't be dated default to March 2001 as that's when the new system of numbers started at DVLA? It's a 1973 bike, so although it'd be nice to see it registered here in the UK, I'm guessing it'll not get 'historic' status so no free MOT or tax? Not that the latter will matter too much, it's only a 49cc what do you mean by came back as March 2001? as in you have this 1973 bike you sent a dating letter off for and they dated it to March 2001? if thats the case then yeah if you send that off with your V55 etc then the DVLA will register it as a 2001 bike and you wont have any historic status entitlments if it really is a 1973 bike then you need to find someone (that the DVLA will recognise, see V765/1) that will be able to date it so to 1973, to be able to register it as a 1973 bike vehicles that cant be dated get a Q plate and have no Date of manufacture recorded with the DVLA (well technically they do but its just the year of when said vehicle registered but thats just to keep the computer systems happy) Mr Laurence and Cord Fourteener 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Kinda neglected the galaxy due to work , lockdown, weather, and knew had slow puncture on nsr, and it gone down but osr had deflated too and look like crap parked up, so missus gone to the optician's with kid's, so thought I'd go be a goodboy/neighbour and pump up the tyres and turn it around so looks like its moved... oh and damp catchers seem to be doing summit.. Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I should do the same with my Volvo instead of lounging on here... Cord Fourteener, stonedagain and The Moog 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 re: dampcatchers. I have a very paffy dog who takes it upon himself to steam up the interior of the Scirocco every time we go out in it. I've tried all manner of things and it's been a total losing battle thing until I used a chamois leather. Bizarre I know, but the traditional chamois appears not only to have created streak free, dry windows, the damp doesn't seem to come back - half as quickly. Perhaps there's some science, perhaps the car's stopped misting up due to something else, but it's transformed my motoring life & moreover... chodweaver and Cavcraft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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