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[High Jetter]

Pageant is a possibility. Grille looks Mk1, but on a F plate? Indicators/sidelamps Mk2? Going from (distant) memory here.

[Cord Fourteener]

3 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Can somebody please explain to me how a numberplate can be four-dimensional?

Because it evolves though time?

[Cord Fourteener]

Got the obligatory.

Apparently the originator got a Cease and Desist letter from the Chinese Moose. That's not on.

However, they are still being printed as bootlegs.

[chaseracer]

6 hours ago, High Jetter said:

Grille looks Mk1, but on a F plate? Indicators/sidelamps Mk2? Going from (distant) memory here.

1967/F was the change from major to minor to the mk2, so there may have been a few mk1s that stuck around past the short E-plate (1 Jan-31 Jul  67), strange though that is given the rate the ADO16 was selling.

Maybe somebody didn't care about the facelift and got a bargain.

[SiC]

14 hours ago, High Jetter said:

Oof! What blue is that? Grille looks very early, and vinyl roof? Engine bay looks very smart.

Originally the car was Green but was repainted when the second owner restored it. First owner, in Scotland, had it from 1968 to 2012 and then wrote it off (as a Cat C). Given they weren't worth a lot in 2012 it likely was a minor giffer dent. There is a slight crease in one of the door panels and a receipt for a dent puller, so probably was that. 

Second owner then welded the sills and a few other bits. In the process he repainted it from Connaught Green to the current Blue. What blue is it? I really don't know and want to know! My suspicion is that it's tractor enamel paint - maybe Ford blue? There is his emails address in the paperwork and I keep thinking I should email him to find out. A few bits need touching up and it would be useful to know what it is. 

The vinyl roof I don't think is original. As it's a 1968 plate and a MK1, it must have been a very late registered one of the last. Or it had been sitting around for a while. The original BMC Passport to Service book ties up with the age.

I know the colour isn't to everyone's taste, nor is it original but I really like it. It's a bright and vivid colour when polished up and gets parsersby attention. A impulse lockdown project purchase last year that is a very jolly little car. 

More about it on my thread!

[chaseracer]

My grandad was a serial ADO16 perv in the 60s/70s - always Austins, the high points being a couple of 1300GTs - trading them every two years until he tried a (single) VP1500 in 1975.  He was so impressed with that, he swapped it for a Simca 1100!  This was so utterly dire, it was chopped in after barely a year for the first of two Honda Accords.

[SiC]

1/3/68 the date of sale on the car according to the Passport to Service. Sold to a Mr McArthur in Crossgate, Fife by William Robb of The Kirkcaldy Garage in Kirkcaldy. Pre delivery stamp is 28/2/68 with a mileage of 47. So does seem like it was new at the time. Must have been one of the very very last MK1.

Actually has more history than any other of my classics. Wish I had more on the MGBGT as I've got nothing pre the last seller and it's a low owner car too. Unfortunately the second owner threw out/lost that history. 

[Split_Pin]

Forst time this has seen the light of day since September.

[dave j]

41 minutes ago, SiC said:

1/3/68 the date of sale on the car according to the Passport to Service. Sold to a Mr McArthur in Crossgate, Fife by William Robb of The Kirkcaldy Garage in Kirkcaldy. Pre delivery stamp is 28/2/68 with a mileage of 47. So does seem like it was new at the time. Must have been one of the very very last MK1.

Actually has more history than any other of my classics. Wish I had more on the MGBGT as I've got nothing pre the last seller and it's a low owner car too. Unfortunately the second owner threw out/lost that history. 

That sounded like the start of one of those long winded Ebay adverts! 🤣

[Cord Fourteener]

I have to put this:

Onto this:

The problem is that because I'm an idiot I ordered the wrong tow bar, I got the estate tow bar rather than the hatchback one. Which means it's not going to fit, so I have a drill and an angle grinder at the ready.

[SiC]

1 hour ago, dave j said:

That sounded like the start of one of those long winded Ebay adverts! 🤣

Might be worth doing that!

Shame it's a Cat C as it will put people off a good car but then it's also part of the cars story and history.

[Cord Fourteener]

46 minutes ago, Tim_E said:

I have to put this:

Onto this:

The problem is that because I'm an idiot I ordered the wrong tow bar, I got the estate tow bar rather than the hatchback one. Which means it's not going to fit, so I have a drill and an angle grinder at the ready.

Ok I'm going to try and sell this one and get the correct tow bar...

[Cord Fourteener]

And, as a change of plan, this important* job got done.

[stripped fred]

12 minutes ago, Tim_E said:

Ok I'm going to try and sell this one and get the correct tow bar...

I would do that, better to be safe than sorry...

[Soundwave]

Finally managed to go to where my Rover is stored yesterday, passing by while doing another (essential) errand. Haven't been to it in 4 weeks due to lockdown and all that. 

Battery? Flat as a witch's tit. No problem, connect jumper pack... 

Cue 5 minutes of the alarm/immobiliser going mental, and not responding to the fob. A frantic Google on the phone revealed the procedure to cure this, involving locking/unlocking the door using the key, pressing the fob buttons a specific number of times, and sacrificing a live chicken to the gods of Lucas electronics.

With the crisis averted, managed to run it for 30 minutes or so to get a bit of juice into it, and I've added a solar trickle charger to help it retain charge. It'll still need a mains charge at some point though. 

 

[Cavcraft]

Got the dating certificate back today for the little Gilera. It's come back as March 2001 because Gilera don't hold records for bikes over ten years old and after the people who issued the certificate used their extensive database. Do any vehicles that can't be dated default to March 2001 as that's when the new system of numbers started at DVLA?

 

It's a 1973 bike,  so although it'd be nice to see it registered here in the UK, I'm guessing it'll not get 'historic' status so no free MOT or tax? Not that the latter will matter too much, it's only a 49cc

[Dick Longbridge]

9 minutes ago, Cavcraft said:

Got the dating certificate back today for the little Gilera. It's come back as March 2001 because Gilera don't hold records for bikes over ten years old and after the people who issued the certificate used their extensive database. Do any vehicles that can't be dated default to March 2001 as that's when the new system of numbers started at DVLA?

 

It's a 1973 bike,  so although it'd be nice to see it registered here in the UK, I'm guessing it'll not get 'historic' status so no free MOT or tax? Not that the latter will matter too much, it's only a 49cc

Any photos?

[320touring]

4 hours ago, Split_Pin said:

Forst time this has seen the light of day since September.

Such a good looking car!

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Cavcraft said:

Got the dating certificate back today for the little Gilera. It's come back as March 2001 because Gilera don't hold records for bikes over ten years old and after the people who issued the certificate used their extensive database. Do any vehicles that can't be dated default to March 2001 as that's when the new system of numbers started at DVLA?

 

It's a 1973 bike,  so although it'd be nice to see it registered here in the UK, I'm guessing it'll not get 'historic' status so no free MOT or tax? Not that the latter will matter too much, it's only a 49cc

what do you mean by came back as March 2001?

as in you have this 1973 bike you sent a dating letter off for and they dated it to March 2001?

if thats the case then yeah if you send that off with your V55 etc then the DVLA will register it as a 2001 bike and you wont have any historic status entitlments

 

if it really is a 1973 bike then you need to find someone (that the DVLA will recognise, see V765/1) that will be able to date it so to 1973, to be able to register it as a 1973 bike

 

vehicles that cant be dated get a Q plate and have no Date of manufacture recorded with the DVLA (well technically they do but its just the year of when said vehicle registered but thats just to keep the computer systems happy) 

[stuboy]

Kinda neglected the galaxy due to  work , lockdown,  weather, and knew had slow puncture on nsr, and it gone down but osr had deflated too and look like crap parked up, so missus gone to the optician's with kid's,  so thought I'd go be a goodboy/neighbour and pump up the tyres and turn it around so looks like its moved... oh and damp catchers seem to be doing summit..

[eddyramrod]

I should do the same with my Volvo instead of lounging on here...

[barefoot]

re: dampcatchers.

I have a very paffy dog who takes it upon himself to steam up the interior of the Scirocco every time we go out in it. I've tried all manner of things and it's been a total losing battle thing until I used a chamois leather. Bizarre I know, but the traditional chamois appears not only to have created streak free, dry windows, the damp doesn't seem to come back - half as quickly.

Perhaps there's some science, perhaps the car's stopped misting up due to something else, but it's transformed my motoring life & moreover...

[brownnova]

My MX5 had a bad welding repair which blocked the rear drain holes. Mostly the water escaped through the front drains... or so I thought...

[Cavcraft]

2 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Any photos?

[Cavcraft]

1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said:

what do you mean by came back as March 2001?

as in you have this 1973 bike you sent a dating letter off for and they dated it to March 2001?

if thats the case then yeah if you send that off with your V55 etc then the DVLA will register it as a 2001 bike and you wont have any historic status entitlments

 

if it really is a 1973 bike then you need to find someone (that the DVLA will recognise, see V765/1) that will be able to date it so to 1973, to be able to register it as a 1973 bike

 

vehicles that cant be dated get a Q plate and have no Date of manufacture recorded with the DVLA (well technically they do but its just the year of when said vehicle registered but thats just to keep the computer systems happy) 

 

[gm]

1 minute ago, brownnova said:

My MX5 had a bad welding repair which blocked the rear drain holes. Mostly the water escaped through the front drains... or so I thought...

oh dear, that will have done the sills a power of good  

it does tie in with the wet ecu theory, mine was similarly afflicted with sloshing sills, the ecu problem happened after I had braked hard at a junction and the water all ran to the front. 

on the bright side, not carrying all that extra weight will be a handy performance boost  

[LightBulbFun]

16 minutes ago, Cavcraft said:

thats a bit peculiar, but yeah he is saying its from 2001! wonder what makes him think that...

(looking the chap up in the in the V765 list and he is listed as doing Yamaha bikes, are they related Gilera in someway? I dont see any mention of Yamaha on the Gilera wikipedia page but I dont really know my bikes all that well!)

is there anyone else you can get a dating certificate from? how long was the Gilera Touring 50 made for?

is it one of those bikes that where made for about a million years or is there no way its from 2001?

 

whats the history of the bike, is it a paperless import, or is it a UK bike thats sat for a long time?

 

if nothing else, if you can pop the headlamp or tail lamp bulbs out im happy to try and date those for you if its any help!

 

[brownnova]

Yeah, the sills are a worry, but no bad news on that front as yet... no doubt welding is on the horizon. 

The ECU was in a poor way, and has been swapped (thanks gm for the tip) it runs better, but idle still not right. Throttle body is the suspect apparently... 

[Cavcraft]

2 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

thats a bit peculiar, but yeah he is saying its from 2001! wonder what makes him think that...

(looking the chap up in the in the V765 list and he is listed as doing Yamaha bikes, are they related Gilera in someway? I dont see any mention of Yamaha on the Gilera wikipedia page but I dont really know my bikes all that well!)

is there anyone else you can get a dating certificate from? how long was the Gilera Touring 50 made for?

is it one of those bikes that where made for about a million years or is there no way its from 2001?

 

whats the history of the bike, is it a paperless import, or is it a UK bike thats sat for a long time?

 

if nothing else, if you can pop the headlamp or tail lamp bulbs out im happy to try and date those for you if its any help!

 

Thanks, import with NOVA. Someone recommended the Yamaha bloke and as nice and helpful as he seems, I'm not overly convinced the 'extensive database' really yielded anything. I believe there isn't a Gilera owners club, though I was given the name of a fella from another Autoshiter and should  have tried him first.

[LightBulbFun]

4 minutes ago, Cavcraft said:

Thanks, import with NOVA. Someone recommended the Yamaha bloke and as nice and helpful as he seems, I'm not overly convinced the 'extensive database' really yielded anything. I believe there isn't a Gilera owners club, though I was given the name of a fella from another Autoshiter and should  have tried him first.

Yeah im not sure id trust that guys dating letter!

I have no association at all with them but looking at the V765/1 list

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/928848/V765X1_150920.pdf

I wonder if the old italian  bike register might be worth a shout?

sounds like they might cater to all well old italian bikes