Bren Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 The vectra passed it's MOT by the way. richardmorris, Twiggy, stonedagain and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, xtriple said: I have been asked on three separate occassions today if I need any help with food shopping. Once by a woman I have never spoken to before. Is this because I am an obvious cripple (in which case, thank you all very much) or because I look like an old bastard (in which case you can all fuck off! ). It's because your son has a Vectra. People will just assume he's cruising round everywhere being a fanny magnet, and not getting his dad's shopping. BL Bloke, BorniteIdentity, mitsisigma01 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 As Kyle is 300 miles away, any shopping he got me would be out of date or eaten before it got here Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsisigma01 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Don't you mean pushing his Vectra ?, saw one this morning outside the scrappy looking shite and then unbelievably someone got in it and drove away ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, mitsisigma01 said: Don't you mean pushing his Vectra ?, saw one this morning outside the scrappy looking shite and then unbelievably someone got in it and drove away ? That's just what Vectras look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Bugger. Just ad a phone call from the vets that they are shutting for the foreseeable future so if I want Phoebes pills, be there in the next 30 minutes or... So I went to the vets where they just handed them thru the barely opened door having already relieved me of £119.67. But, the car that was running perfectly an hour ago, is now missfiring like a pig! CEL on definitely at least one cylinder down. Bollox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Aldi comes through...milk...cat food..and screwdrivers... saves the day Angrydicky, tapir and LightBulbFun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownnova Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Having worked from home all morning (genuinely) and then done my government mandated one exercise (a lovely walk in a forest), I decided to do start the camper van as I’ve not started it for a couple of months (nearly three I think) amazingly it fired up second try! Then I had a brain wave... check the cupboards... I felt like the guy that won £250,000 on deal or no deal! With the baby on the way the van is going to be too small, the plan was to sell it this spring and get a bigger one... well that plan is out for now! As is camping.... unless in drive it into the garden to camp. Shep Shepherd, NorfolkNWeigh, BL Bloke and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Shepherd Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Still working, as delivering bits of rusty steel to engineering companies is an essential job, apparently. At least for now. On the plus side, the roads were dead quiet in the parts of Kent and East Sussex in which I was making deliveries, the sun was out, Radio 3 was playing some bangin' choons and I saw this in Pevensey, the first Fiat Strada I've seen on the road for well over 20 years. A sporty one, too: I had forgotten how cool and space age the pre-facelift Strada looked LabRat, RobT, Vantman and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just a PSA, Asda petrol is silly cheap right now. 102.9 here in Manchester. Angrydicky and Shep Shepherd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-M Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Bored so decided to have a go at removing a rust stain from the rear bumper of my Golf. (Rusty tailgate around the handle) Got the car out of the garage, hit the rear bumper with a clay mitt and some detailing spray, polished. Bored again now. I thought that would take an hour or so. Took five minutes. Dammit. BL Bloke, Shep Shepherd and Angrydicky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ghosty said: Just a PSA, Asda petrol is silly cheap right now. 102.9 here in Manchester. Waiting to see if Sainsbury's follow on. Got quite a lot of Nectar points to redeem..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tadhg Tiogar said: Waiting to see if Sainsbury's follow on. Got quite a lot of Nectar points to redeem..... Tesco haven't yet, but here's hoping. Asda is always cheapest anyway as a lot of them are self serve only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmjbn1 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I've been inappropriately fiddling with my Panda's rear end. The FIAT 169 Panda is an entirely superb little car, except for the rear axle, which isn't. They're galvanised so they don't even rust, except for the rear axle, which isn't and does. Oh, and the rear drums. They do too. Oh, and so does the coolant return pipe. But I think that's it. Which ain't bad now, is it, be fair. I finally got round to dropping my rear axle today, a job I've been meaning to do for a few months now but, well, it's been a long old winter? I had three jobs I wanted to do down there: Properly clean and rust-treat the spring pans Check rear brakes (1 was an MOT advisory for slight binding) Continue messing about with shim washers to try and correct rear mis-alignment I was amazed how easy it was to drop the axle and remove the springs? Two bolts, the axle drops down and the springs fall out! Winner! Thanks due to the most excellent folk of the FIATForum for the detailed guide and advice on using a breaker bar then a drill to run out the lower shocker bolts. The thread is quite long on them. I soaked them in penetrating fluid a couple of days prior and they both ran out really easily. I used a range of wire brush attachments on an angle grinder and drill. And here are my spring pans after wire brushing. Not too bad for 16 years I reckon. I had previously treated them 'in-situ' about a year ago by washing then dousing in GT85, old engine oil then finally thinned chainsaw oil. The main trouble area on mine was the metal to metal spring/pan interface. I also uncovered some 'new' drain holes whilst cleaning, so this is a job well worth doing? I used Fertan to treat the rust. I've had a 1litre bottle for a few years now and it seems to give good results - I haven't had rust come back through after painting over. Only issue is it recommends 48hours before washing off then painting. It also claims 12months protection without painting, so I've put everything back together unpainted for now. The Fertan turns all rusty metal black which shows up on the spring pans and brake drums in the rest of the pictures. After treating the pans I set about attacking rust on the springs, shock absorbers and brake drums. I was hoping it was just the rust on the drums causing the binding - the culprit was hard to rotate by hand, sticking on every rotation. Both drums were a pig to get off due to the lip of rust formed on the inside of the drum. It took a lot of 'ittin'wi't'hammer and prizing to get them off. I was worried about cracking a drum or damaging the shoe linings - they were a little bit scored by dragging the rusty drum over them, but luckily still attached and a fair bit of meat on them. No leaks under the wheel cylinder boots, so I just wire-brushed all rusty areas on the drums with the angle grinder, brushed Fertan on and reassembled. Binding seems to have gone, so fingers crossed... Rear brake parts are cheap enough, but shoes and cylinders look a right faff to replace. I still struggle to fathom how the manufacture and especially assembly of drum brakes is cheaper than discs on new cars... So, on to the rear alignment... I've been messing about trying to correct excessive wear on the left rear tyre outside edge. This I suspect was caused by too much toe-in on the left rear. 'Feathering' on the outer tread of the tyre typical of too much toe-in can be seen: There was evidence in the file that it had been doing this on the same corner for some time before I got the car, so it wasn't just this tyre at fault. There were tyre condition reports all showing the same wear pattern and a few bills for one new tyre at MOT time... I wonder if this had anything to do with them getting rid of my car...? My car's steering was also pulling slightly to the left, but it seems most 169 Pandas do this anyway. The Panda has a simple twist-beam rear axle with no provision for adjusting toe or camber. There's a suspicion on the FIATForum that these pre-2012 non-ARB axles weren't manufactured or installed very accurately, and that a properly-aligned Panda is a rare sight in the wild. I'd previously added some 1mm washers to the front two bolts on the left rear hub to bring the front of that wheel outboard a little, and ended up with this: So I'd obviously pushed the left rear too far into toe-out territory. Four wheel alignment also revealed too much toe-in on the right rear. The 169 Panda is (according to this read-out) supposed to have +1.5mm toe-in each side, so overall +3.0mm and of course zero thrust angle. I wonder if any of them do? In the 7 months since, the tyre hasn't obviously been wearing out in the same fashion as before. The pull to the left has also completely gone. In fact, if left to run straight, she will now very gradually veer off to the right! Which clearly isn't how it's supposed to be, so I thought I'd try and bring both sides closer to where they should be. I need to adjust the left rear by 2.7mm and the right rear by 1.6mm. I sourced some shim washers, removed 0.3mm from the left rear hub and added 0.1mm to the right. Now my rear axle is sporting 0.7mm shims (1x0.5mm, 2x0.1mm) on the left, 0.1mm on the right. Another FIATForum member has advised they used 1mm gasket material to make shims on theirs which squashes down when tightened. I think they mean the gasket squashes, not the Panda, but who knows? I'm going to continue to monitor tyre wear and see how she feels on fast straight roads for a while now, then I may get alignment checked again. As others have pointed out, laser wheel alignment isn't necessarily that accurate. And anyway, I'm only looking to get rear alignment in the right sort of area so that she runs true and stops scrubbing off tyres. It's a strange feeling knowing that a car of mine isn't merrily rusting away somewhere. Rather a good feeling too? Now just waiting for some warmer weather to paint all the previously rusty bits? BL Bloke, Stanky, HMC and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike60 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 My eldest son has a 2006 Honda Accord diesel, bought about 4 years ago and largely blameless if dull. Since last summer it's been getting harder to start first thing, it was a bit odd because parked warm for 4 hours no problem, re-start seconds after a brief 1st run of the day it needed the same cranking as it had the first time. Engine temperature seemed to be key, not fuel priming etc. With no fault codes we started with easy basics, genuine £45 fuel filter, tested heater plugs and supply etc, looked good but what else could it be ? Wasted £80 on Bosch heater plugs, no change. I then borrowed a newer scanner than mine which read fuel fail pressure, you could read the pressure rise as it fired.. Ah. I bought a nasty Chinese injector leak off tester kit, it measures the amount of fuel passing through the injectors returning to tank so can point to problems I used the straight tubes on the right of the box, they go straight into the top of the Bosch injectors looking like this, These 2 show just over 1 Chinese whatever units after about 3 secs running As does the the one on the right in this pair but one one left is over 10. A problem found! Hope it's the main one. Injectors are from £30 Ebay lottery but probably need coding, £100 for the old one one refurbed at a respected local specialist or approx £200 exchange ECP or Motor Factors, also need coding. I went for ours refurbed. The injector came out pretty easy other than the clamp bolt, it was proper tight and is supposed to be a one shot yield bolt doesn't look like one to me or the refurbishers so as Honda are shut it lived to fight again...... Torque is 5n/m + 90 degrees, a little puckering going on at 90 degrees. I spent some time making sure the seat was clean , i think some problems with injector sealing may come from this not being easy. The result? This morning it started in 1-2 secs instead of the 8 secs and sometimes a lot longer it has done. I would like to swap back for my Merc but that is now 60 miles away so I guess I'm a Honda owner for the foreseeable! . My assistant for cleaning injector seats with specialist tools,- plastic pipe, long screwdriver and cotton buds. With a smile he'll suck things I won't! Cord Fourteener, gm, Steviemillar and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Once again my ultra cheap (about a tenner a few years ago) code reader proves its worth in gold. Read the codes on the Merc easy was precise (P301 - misfire cylinder 1, coil pack voltage... something something) and saved me faffing around or phoning the AA. I did consider the AA as I pay a fortune for the privelege of their company but... well, it's just not manly now is it? Especially when you can do it yourself, just laziness and a desire to get it back on the road asap without waiting for deliveries from unknown places. Cavcraft, spike60 and Cord Fourteener 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 @spike60 Thanks for that run down. I'm wondering if my 406 problems are due to a leaky injector, so will get one of those leak off tests in due course. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cord Fourteener Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, xtriple said: Once again my ultra cheap (about a tenner a few years ago) code reader proves its worth in gold. Read the codes on the Merc easy was precise (P301 - misfire cylinder 1, coil pack voltage... something something) and saved me faffing around or phoning the AA. I did consider the AA as I pay a fortune for the privelege of their company but... well, it's just not manly now is it? Especially when you can do it yourself, just laziness and a desire to get it back on the road asap without waiting for deliveries from unknown places. Mine has paid for itself a hundred times over I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Despite its tiny boot, I've spent today doing some apocalypse* prep on the C2. I'll do a proper thread later, and there's more to come. Interesting times to be a delivery driver indeed. This is just stage 1. But I don't believe in leaving something vital in an unready state. The clear tub still has some unnecessary shite in it taking up valuable space. Space certainly is a problem in such a small car, but I'll get onto that in the thread. Lunchtime now! RobT and paulplom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 C2 has a split tailgate? I did not know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyarddog Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 That'll explain the exhaust noise on my Viva! Replaced with a slightly*less rusty one from my stash of parts,and it sounds much improved. Skizzer, BorniteIdentity, RobT and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Well that escalated. Its been bubbling here for years, might as well get it out in the open. The other side is going the same way. Cavcraft and Spurious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike60 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 hours ago, RobT said: @spike60 Thanks for that run down. I'm wondering if my 406 problems are due to a leaky injector, so will get one of those leak off tests in due course. Is the 406 common rail? The Honda is so one injector returning too much fuel was bringing the whole system pressure down hence the delay in starting while pressure builds. If it's non common rail I would expect the cylinder to miss but the others to be unaffected, assuming one weak injector. If not common rail you may still be able to get useful information with it though, it's the first time I've used a leak off kit for diagnosis. I paid £21.99 for the kit from a UK seller last week, they were £18.99 from China but I wanted prompt delivery. RobT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 In the light of this extended MOT business best to get the Transit ship (wreck) shape richardmorris, Skizzer and RobT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Well Chester has thoroughly enjoyed his day in 'lockdown' he has sat by the gate all day, sun shining on his fat head waiting for some unsuspecting soul to walk by, then he leaps to attention and tells them, in no uncertain terms, all about Corvid-19 and how they should be at home, not walking by our house. Unless they would like to take him with them, when dispensations will be arranged for a small fee (a Jumbone). Phoebe, not so much, she really wanted to go out and lay in a hedge and destroy it. Maybe tomorrow... busmansholiday, rusty998, richardmorris and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 No further updates on my adventures as when I sat down to write a proper post I got a call from another driver at work telling me she had a puncture. As soon as I arrived I could tell all I was able to do was wait for the big yellow taxi with her and figure out how to stop it ruining her night any more than it already had. As it is that meant going to the shop and covering the rest of her shift. That's 2.5 hours of paid work today between that and my stock run. Not bad indeed. As an aside, does anyone in the Fife area have a spare for a Corsa D lying around spare? Hers doesn't have one and I'm sure we'd both be more comfortable if she did, as it would at least mean being able to continue her shift if she gets future flats. Even if I or someone else has to go and help her change it. About to drive home, I've about 10 miles to go, hopefully my half arsed work uniform stops any bother. Literally just chucked on a jacket and hat when I left this afternoon, I'm still dressed like a scruffy bastard beneath it, as evidenced by the manky jeans. I've never seen town so empty. Not even during snowmageddon. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulplom Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Cavcraft said: In the light of this extended MOT business best to get the Transit ship (wreck) shape You could have used red tape ffs. Amateur! Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I can now confirm one fact that pretty much every owner of a Jag XJ-S knows - the coolant overflow catch tank hidden behind the nearside front wheel arch liner is an absolutely fluffing stupid idea. Pete-M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 6:32 PM, Tadhg Tiogar said: Waiting to see if Sainsbury's follow on. Got quite a lot of Nectar points to redeem..... They have, as have Morrison's. Tadhg Tiogar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-M Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Put the bins out at 8pm and all the neighbours came out and gave me a round of applause. Cheering, smiling, seeing fireworks off. That was nice. Cavcraft, puddlethumper, Skizzer and 11 others 3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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