Shep Shepherd Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Wow that looks interesting. Is Mark Williams a name from Japloy magazine? Sounds familiar. He was indeed involved with Jaropy, as was Rod Ker Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I can remember that Colin Goodwin article in CAR; Keith Dutton and him attempt a channel crossing in a marinised Fester; brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowsilver Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 LIQUORICE LININGS? Not sure if this is right thread to post this in, so moderators please move if there is a more appropriate one. Had an unusual problem with the rear brakes on the Maxi this week.Fitted a new set of rear brake linings about 2,000 miles ago. The old ones were still OK but were riveted, so I decided to routinely replace them with bonded ones to protect againt future drum scoring by the rivets, which I have experienced before..Bought a new bonded set from the bay of E. Cheapish but not stupidly so.Branded as Borg & Beck, which I recognised as a known make. Box looked genuine and "Borg & Beck" stamped on each lining in what appears to be their correct font. Recently the rear brakes started making graunching noises when braking from low speed.Removed the drums to investigate and found this: The friction material on all four linings looks as though it has melted like hot tar.There was also a coating of a black tar-like gunge on the machined surface inside both drums.This would not come off just with solvent so I had to use sandpaper followed by cellulose thinners to remove it.The inside of the drums were not, and still are not, scored or rusty.The wheel cylinders were, and still are, dry with no extraneous brake fluid visible anywhere.I don't drive the car "enthusiastically" and brake hard and they were not binding, so I would not expect them to have overheated.I have now ordered, received and fitted another set from a different manufacturer and, no surprise, the noise has disappeared.I hope these don't go the same way.I am tempted to send the photo to the Ebay seller but, since they were purchased about 18 months ago, I don't expect I can get a refund. Still it might be worth letting them know anyway.I am now wondering if these are in fact cheap, maybe oriental, clones branded as, but not actually manufactured by, Borg & Beck.Has anyone else on here every seen a problem like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Shepherd Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Braved the cold in order to put some Autoglym Bumper and Trim Gel on The Volvo's exterior plastic and rubber. Looks a lot better now, even though it could do with a polish Coprolalia, clayts450, Datsuncog and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Had the audi sorted for a very reasonable £150. Tech said rear callipers were getting tired - a clean and new pads are next as the callipers may live a little longer if I do this - the pistons wont have to extend so much. Shep Shepherd and egg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 LIQUORICE LININGS? Not sure if this is right thread to post this in, so moderators please move if there is a more appropriate one. Had an unusual problem with the rear brakes on the Maxi this week.Fitted a new set of rear brake linings about 2,000 miles ago. The old ones were still OK but were riveted, so I decided to routinely replace them with bonded ones to protect againt future drum scoring by the rivets, which I have experienced before..Bought a new bonded set from the bay of E. Cheapish but not stupidly so.Branded as Borg & Beck, which I recognised as a known make. Box looked genuine and "Borg & Beck" stamped on each lining in what appears to be their correct font. 20180220_140029.jpg Recently the rear brakes started making graunching noises when braking from low speed.Removed the drums to investigate and found this: 20180220_140000.jpg The friction material on all four linings looks as though it has melted like hot tar.There was also a coating of a black tar-like gunge on the machined surface inside both drums.This would not come off just with solvent so I had to use sandpaper followed by cellulose thinners to remove it.The inside of the drums were not, and still are not, scored or rusty.The wheel cylinders were, and still are, dry with no extraneous brake fluid visible anywhere.I don't drive the car "enthusiastically" and brake hard and they were not binding, so I would not expect them to have overheated.I have now ordered, received and fitted another set from a different manufacturer and, no surprise, the noise has disappeared.I hope these don't go the same way.I am tempted to send the photo to the Ebay seller but, since they were purchased about 18 months ago, I don't expect I can get a refund. Still it might be worth letting them know anyway.I am now wondering if these are in fact cheap, maybe oriental, clones branded as, but not actually manufactured by, Borg & Beck.Has anyone else on here every seen a problem like this? Borg and Beck is dogshit these days IMO. Nowt to do with brake linings, but I had serious hassles with their clutch components purely down to shoddy build quality. Sigmund Fraud and twosmoke300 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 While I was asleep Old Man randomly ordered two recon calipers, pads etc for the rear brakes from Rock Auto and now I owe him some money I'm not sure I have. Er, thanks? puddlethumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 LIQUORICE LININGS? Not sure if this is right thread to post this in, so moderators please move if there is a more appropriate one. Had an unusual problem with the rear brakes on the Maxi this week.Fitted a new set of rear brake linings about 2,000 miles ago. The old ones were still OK but were riveted, so I decided to routinely replace them with bonded ones to protect againt future drum scoring by the rivets, which I have experienced before..Bought a new bonded set from the bay of E. Cheapish but not stupidly so.Branded as Borg & Beck, which I recognised as a known make. Box looked genuine and "Borg & Beck" stamped on each lining in what appears to be their correct font. 20180220_140029.jpg Recently the rear brakes started making graunching noises when braking from low speed.Removed the drums to investigate and found this: 20180220_140000.jpg The friction material on all four linings looks as though it has melted like hot tar.There was also a coating of a black tar-like gunge on the machined surface inside both drums.This would not come off just with solvent so I had to use sandpaper followed by cellulose thinners to remove it.The inside of the drums were not, and still are not, scored or rusty.The wheel cylinders were, and still are, dry with no extraneous brake fluid visible anywhere.I don't drive the car "enthusiastically" and brake hard and they were not binding, so I would not expect them to have overheated.I have now ordered, received and fitted another set from a different manufacturer and, no surprise, the noise has disappeared.I hope these don't go the same way.I am tempted to send the photo to the Ebay seller but, since they were purchased about 18 months ago, I don't expect I can get a refund. Still it might be worth letting them know anyway.I am now wondering if these are in fact cheap, maybe oriental, clones branded as, but not actually manufactured by, Borg & Beck.Has anyone else on here every seen a problem like this?The clue is in the borg and beck font. It looks like what you would see on a saloon bar. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Wasn't this a Watchdog or similar thing back in 2014 or so? Something to do with dangerous cheap knock-off brake parts being put in proper boxes and sold to the unsuspecting public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I find a good 80-90% of brand new eBay parts are fakes tbh. They're really good at faking them nowadays. Packaging and all. Especially certain things like light bulbs and such like. However eBay can be useful for NOS parts and main dealer parts directly from main dealers. Easy to find the latter as they put their dealership phone number and address registered as their eBay account. A quick Google is often enough due diligence to see if it's a real dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 While I was asleep Old Man randomly ordered two recon calipers, pads etc for the rear brakes from Rock Auto and now I owe him some money I'm not sure I have. Er, thanks? I seem to remember you telling us you had 3 sticky calipers?Seems like hes saved you 1/3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 The clue is in the borg and beck font. It looks like what you would see on a saloon bar. I've just fitted a Borg and Beck clutch from ebay to the Stock car.Won't be long before we know! tooSavvy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowsilver Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I find a good 80-90% of brand new eBay parts are fakes tbh. They're really good at faking them nowadays. Packaging and all. Especially certain things like light bulbs and such like. However eBay can be useful for NOS parts and main dealer parts directly from main dealers. Easy to find the latter as they put their dealership phone number and address registered as their eBay account. A quick Google is often enough due diligence to see if it's a real dealer. They were ordered from classicandmoderncarparts, who have been an Ebay member since 2003 and have a score of 100% on about 48,000 feedbacks. They have businees details as BNC Autoparts Ltd. with an address in Midlothian.They certainly don't sound like cowboys, but who knows where they buy their parts from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panhard65 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I put an ebay Sachs clutch in my Porsche and haven't been happy with it since it went in. I might have to put another one in there as it really stinks if you pull away a bit rapidly.. It looked like a proper one and there was only Sachs made a clutch for the S so you would think it was legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Fraud Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Most of us remember "Borg&Beck" from the time when they were the British branch of Borg-Warner and made quality parts. Unfortunately, this hasn't been the case for over a decade now - the brand name is now owned by FirstLine, and Borg&Beck boxes seem to contain sub-standard, Chinese-made shite. This level of quality* unfortunately seems to be the rule for OEM* part suppliers nowadays. Lord Sterling, SiC, Exiled_Tat_Gatherer and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 New H3s have arrived for the CX's inner high beams: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I was referring to DodgeRover's XT500 story.No was too pricey at the time (not by today's standards though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Like the last scrapings from the lurpak tub, I'm spreading myself too thin. Too many projects on the go and new ones coming in. Shiter' s disease. I'm trying to make house out of this and have enough vehicle projects to keep me busy for a year or two. A maestro waiting on wheel arches, a landcruiser needing mot, 3 series land rovers gathering dust. The omega, tractor, digger, dumper... Yet in the last month I've bought two motorbikes Cafe racer project. Just what I need. More 80's jap bike. Currently in bits in the garage for a quick* recommission and profit*. I need to get the garage cleared because that old 109 lurking behind the allegro is going to be the subject of an 'oily hands' day that the car club Tam and I are in are having. Its old Perkins is getting a strip down and new rings. Then the p38 arrived and needs to be sorted or scrapped. I often don't get home from work until 8pm. It's all a bit nuts. I really need to offload something(s) This afternoon I bought this. puddlethumper, Eddie Honda, CGSB and 29 others 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercrocker Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Lush! Ninety-Eight Brougham? drum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Lush! Ninety-Eight Brougham?88 I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillock Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 You can get properly epic lift off oversteer in a Polo, many funs had raising eyebrows drifting round wet roundabouts as a yoof.I shat my pants doing a full 180° in mine. Lift off, lots of arm twirling, truck heading towards me BEEPING LIKE I DONT KNOW WHAT I JUST DID. DeeJay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saabnut Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Like the last scrapings from the lurpak tub, I'm spreading myself too thin. Too many projects on the go and new ones coming in. Shiter' s disease. I'm trying to make house out of this20180220_075842.jpg and have enough vehicle projects to keep me busy for a year or two. A maestro waiting on wheel arches, a landcruiser needing mot, 3 series land rovers gathering dust. The omega, tractor, digger, dumper... Yet in the last month I've bought two motorbikes Cafe racer project. Just what I need.20180102_111250.jpg More 80's jap bike. Currently in bits in the garage for a quick* recommission and profit*.20180223_193522.jpg I need to get the garage cleared because that old 109 lurking behind the allegro is going to be the subject of an 'oily hands' day that the car club Tam and I are in are having. Its old Perkins is getting a strip down and new rings.20180102_111232.jpg Then the p38 arrived and needs to be sorted or scrapped.20180220_171109.jpg I often don't get home from work until 8pm. It's all a bit nuts. I really need to offload something(s) This afternoon I bought this. 20180217_150827.jpg Please tell me that is the diseasal jobbie that has been at the last few Errol auctions? Pretty please? Each auction I have looked at that and decided it was just too bonkers, and each time it was relisted I started to think about it again..... Tam, Lacquer Peel and drum 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 It is the diesel. Came number 4 in America's worst 50 cars according to some mag/website. Tickman, HMC, Lacquer Peel and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Dont miss this once in a lifetime oppertunity..lol fordperv, drum and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Dont miss this once in a lifetime oppertunity..lolYou may joke but how many have you seen recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillock Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 ... when an Escort has only spent two years in the rain, but is an ideal restoration project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 You may joke but how many have you seen recentlySee todays my spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 ... when an Escort has only spent two years in the rain, but is an ideal restoration project! To be fair, the ideal restoration project is one that is project money but needs nothing doing. Pillock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Fraud Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Dont miss this once in a lifetime oppertunity..lol I suspect he'll get better results by advertising it as a "23-year-old escort"... stuboy, SiC, Brodders and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 What a lovely day. Have had a runabout in the Invacar and outings by 2CV and Lexus. Glorious. puddlethumper, spike60, danthecapriman and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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