loserone Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 With the w211 out of the way, I am using the s124 for the school run. Today my new* stereo arrived, so I looked at the s124 this lunchtime. The speaker wires seem to be pretty decent, and there's new pioneer speakers in all the slots. However, the ISO connection leaves something to be desired. Whats the best / cheapest/ simplest solution to this? I guess I want an iso harness with some bullet connectors for the speakers and then figure out which of these two* wires are ground, live, ign and auto aerial? @philibusmo is this making you sweat, or a normal day at the office? Fat_Pirate, Lacquer Peel, Coprolalia and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusmo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 33 minutes ago, loserone said: Whats the best / cheapest/ simplest solution to this? I guess I want an iso harness with some bullet connectors for the speakers and then figure out which of these two* wires are ground, live, ign and auto aerial? @philibusmo is this making you sweat, or a normal day at the office? You're pretty much right there. The easiest and cheapest way to get this sorted is to add a couple of ISO connectors, either with bullet/crimp connectors or soldering it into the original wiring. Makes it nice and easy to remove the radio if you sell the car and fit whatever crap is for sale in the middle aisle of Lidl that week. As for tracing the wiring, without a speaker tester then its quite difficult to work out which set of wiring will go to which speaker to connect to the correct outputs of the radio. If its easy to get the speakers out then you can disconnect the wires from the speakers and test the continuity to them down the different speaker wires. If you're luck then someone will have used the standard wiring colours, complete colour is positive and black stripe is negative: White = left front Grey = right front Green = left rear Purple = right rear As for the power side, finding the permanent 12v and switched 12v should be easy with a multimeter. The earth equally should have continuity to any body earth and not output 12v. You may also have an illumination wire which will only output 12v with the lights on and that should leave the electric aerial output. If you have doubts on this one then just try touching the permanent 12v to it and listed for the aerial motor going. A word of warning on the electric aerial, the 12v output on the radio will work whenever the radio is on (even if not using FM) as it is also used to turn on an amplifier if fitted, which will mean the aerial will be up whenever the set is on. Some Chinese sets (and newer Blaupunkt radios have Chinese internals) don't stop outputting 12v until the ignition is off. If you want to only have the aerial up while the radio is set to FM then you'll need to put another inline switch into this to be able to manually get it to extend or retract. Wiring colours for power ISO: Black = earth Yellow = permanent 12v Red = ign 12v Orange = Illumination Blue = 12v output I've got ISO cables with bare ends that I use to make cables, if you want a pair then I can send them out for £7 but they are quite widely available and cheap so you may well find some locally at the same sort of money. Lacquer Peel, Sunny Jim and yes oui si 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 Legend. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 Fixed the door trim by watching a YouTube video Lacquer Peel, yes oui si, Dyslexic Viking and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 Then tested the most important part of the car. The sunroof. Bastard switch does fuck all. Bastard cunting thing. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Have to ask does the sex den live up to its name? gm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 Dunno, Mrs L1 hasn't driven it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 Many, many thanks to @doug for the manuals. What a hero! Just had a quick test of the sunroof in the quiet, the motor is running but presumably the cable isn't connected. Who puts an electric sunroof motor in the boot?! Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffy Bodger Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 You can very quickly check which speakers are which before wiring them up with an AA or AAA battery. With that amount of sproglets around you must have one close to hand. loserone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob McGregor Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, loserone said: Just had a quick test of the sunroof in the quiet, the motor is running but presumably the cable isn't connected. Who puts an electric sunroof motor in the boot?! So that’s what it is…! loserone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 On 04/03/2024 at 14:01, philibusmo said: ISO connectors Thanks for the help. Very handy! Tickman, tonedepear, yes oui si and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 Look who's back Heater matrix and cooling system all sorted (new radiator as well). Obviously it couldn't be a Clio without being French Lacquer Peel, dome, Dyslexic Viking and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 Rare fleet shot today DeanH, yes oui si, brownnova and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 And one out Jim Bell and yes oui si 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 06/03/2024 at 16:56, loserone said: Thanks for the help. Very handy! How are you finding the stereo? I've got that one and it just says 'Reading' most of the times on the CD and whilst my phone 'connects' to it, the stereo won't have 'BT - STREAM' as an option, I'll just scroll through endless DAB options I don't want and its just not got the streaming option. I spend most drives in total silence. Sometimes it will connect or play the CD but will randomly stop playing the music, I'll need to mute it and un mute it to make it come out again. 'Absolutely wank' is my experience so far. Plus it leaves a second gap between songs on the CDs, which is gash on a mix CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, HillmanImp said: How are you finding the stereo? I've got that one and it just says 'Reading' most of the times on the CD and whilst my phone 'connects' to it, the stereo won't have 'BT - STREAM' as an option, I'll just scroll through endless DAB options I don't want and its just not got the streaming option. I spend most drives in total silence. Interesting. In the Clio it was faultless. Love it. @Tickman seems to be enjoying his too. Unfortunately I sold the Clio yesterday. In the Merc it works fine for 2 minutes then the sound stops coming out. Still looks like it's working, but it's silent. I put a shitty Sony in there which works for 2 minutes then says "CD FAILURE". Despite this the CD continues to play. HillmanImp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Yeah, I'm probably gonna bin the fecker and put in another. Might try the AUX but am not holding my breath. Have you tried pressing mute twice to see if it comes back on, sounds similar to one of my regular faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Do what some guy did to me and sell it on eBay first AxWomble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 @HillmanImp the one I have doesn't have a cd player in so can't comment on that. With Bluetooth if I play stuff on the phone and go through the source choices I get to BT Stream and it just works. Does your model have streaming and not just calls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 23 minutes ago, Tickman said: @HillmanImp the one I have doesn't have a cd player in so can't comment on that. With Bluetooth if I play stuff on the phone and go through the source choices I get to BT Stream and it just works. Does your model have streaming and not just calls? Yeah, it works sometimes. Most of the time not though. I get a message on my phone asking to connect to Blaupunkt which I agree to, my phone says its connected to Blaupunkt, keep hitting the SRC button but the stereo doesn't have an option for BT-STREAM, except for the times it does, which isnt very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 The option doesn't appear unless your phone is connected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 So I need to figure out why my phone thinks its connected but the stereo thinks its not. Or chuck it in the bin. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Is it remembering preset stations? Just wondering if it is dropping power and resetting to default. I have connected my phone once and it has seen it every time since. HillmanImp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella2 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 29/02/2024 at 09:40, loserone said: Could also put the clio on a classic policy for £250 it seems, but then I can't use it for business use. Who was this with? Good price for a 182. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 16 minutes ago, bigfella2 said: Who was this with? Good price for a 182. Lancaster, but it was only £219 for the year on a normal policy with Admiral with no no claims bigfella2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted Tuesday at 20:10 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 20:10 Interesting times Looks like I'm ev shopping again! Dave_Q and Tickman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted yesterday at 14:02 Author Share Posted yesterday at 14:02 Any especially keen interested parties in the SEX DEN S124 please feel free to reach out to save me typing up a for sale thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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